Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Schmitt, Michael
Correct. The Windows FTP client meets the requirements of command-line, Windows, MVS, but it only runs in active mode, so it can’t be used in conditions that block active mode FTP. In my case it is Appgate SDP that is incompatible with active mode. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 23:32:58 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >FWIW, I think there are NO command-line FTP clients that run in Windows*, use >passive mode, and can work with MVS. > >The ones that meet the first two requirements fail on the 3rd, because they >try to be too smart. They try to track

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Farley, Peter
I beg to differ. I use the default Windows ftp client to transfer files to and from my employer's z/OS systems all the time, and never had any issue. CAVEAT: All transfers are happening from a company laptop operating INSIDE my employer's VPN network, never from outside that network, so

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Schmitt, Michael
FWIW, I think there are NO command-line FTP clients that run in Windows*, use passive mode, and can work with MVS. The ones that meet the first two requirements fail on the 3rd, because they try to be too smart. They try to track and cache the directory structure instead of passing the

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 17:09:43 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 15:52:01 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: > >>I set up Filezilla with two "hosts": one as MVS, one as Unix. Both work >>great in/out of the respective domains. Also, set the home directory >>appropriately for each. >>

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Farley, Peter
Filezilla accepts two formats for the initial "directory" you wish to view, one in the normal Unix format for Unix System Services files (e.g., /u/tsouser or /usr/etc) and normal MVS DSN format (with a period at the end like TSOUSER.MYDATA.) to denote an HLQ to view in the MVS data space.

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 15:52:01 -0500, Steve Smith wrote: >I set up Filezilla with two "hosts": one as MVS, one as Unix. Both work >great in/out of the respective domains. Also, set the home directory >appropriately for each. > Was the "Unix" host actually z/OS UNIX System Services? Why should

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Steve Smith
I set up Filezilla with two "hosts": one as MVS, one as Unix. Both work great in/out of the respective domains. Also, set the home directory appropriately for each. sas -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I use Filezilla to move files from my Mac to z and back. The file gets the HLQ of the 'remote site'. make sure that the file name fits the z rules (dots as separators of up to 8 characters each) and select the transfer type from the top menu. *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software

Re: The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Bob Bridges
"Clearly users have figured out that clouds have often taken them for a ride." Well, maybe not so clearly. Don't get me wrong; as a security geek I'm unhappy at the thought of entrusting my employer's mainframe security to an external company, especially one whose main business isn't security.

Re: MVS/370 System Initialization Library?

2022-11-10 Thread Jim Mulder
SP4.1.0 - NMLDEF macro and IEANYxxx modules SP4.2.2 - NUCLSTxx Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: MVS/370 System Initialization Library? Does

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 19:55:33 +, Schmitt, Michael wrote: >The answer is Yes, it can. > >FileZilla is one of the few FTP clients that understands MVS FTP requirements. > >FileZilla can usually guess that it is an MVS server, but you can help it by >setting up the site in Site Manager, with

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Steve Thompson
Someone from Filezilla forums answered me. The location for telling it the O/S, got moved (from where they were saying it was, but something they said). It is now out of , then click on site manager, then the "advanced" tab. Regards, Steve Thompson On 11/10/22 14:55, Schmitt, Michael

Re: FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Schmitt, Michael
The answer is Yes, it can. FileZilla is one of the few FTP clients that understands MVS FTP requirements. FileZilla can usually guess that it is an MVS server, but you can help it by setting up the site in Site Manager, with server type set to MVS, OS/390, z/OS. Failing to open a data port is

FileZilla for "ftp" from W11 to z/OS

2022-11-10 Thread Steve Thompson
If any of you have used FileZilla, will it support copying a file from Winderz to, as an example, ABC.XYZ.JCL? I have not been able to deduce how to get this to work, scanning their FAQs (which had a few issues about PDSEs) and forums... Filezilla seems to be oriented to *nix or NTFS type

Re: Using SPF/Pro (was SPF/Pro crashes...)

2022-11-10 Thread David Cole
As promised, we've published "Notes, Comments and Cautions about Using SPF/Pro" on our company website: - Navigate to colesoft.com. - Hover over "support". - Select "Utilities for z/OS". - Click on "Using SPF Pro.pdf". No login is needed. Enjoy! David Cole Developer dbc...@gmail.com

Re: GTTERM assistance (really 3270 VTAM application?)

2022-11-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Why do you say that page is for LU 6.2? "Session parameters not valid—PRI: A positive response to an activation request (for example, BIND) was received and was changed to a negative response because session parameters that were not valid were carried in the response. The services manager

Re: The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 11:02:59 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >https://www-theregister-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theregister.com/AMP/2 >022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ > 404? Perhaps >Funny, nobody said this about timesharing back

Re: GTTERM assistance (really 3270 VTAM application?)

2022-11-10 Thread Michael Stein
On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 07:14:34AM -0500, Brian Chapman wrote: > Michael, > > Are you saying that sense code 084E is only applicable for LU6.2? I'm saying the page you linked to was for LU6.2 and as far as I know 3270s aren't LU6.2. Also I'm still very very uncertain what you are doing. At

Re: The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 11:02:59 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote: >https://www-theregister-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theregister.com/AMP/2 >022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ > 404? Perhaps >Funny, nobody said this about timesharing back

Re: The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Music to our ears … but … cloud has given a scale out model that supports new runtimes other than CICS, IMS and Java. Operational automation built into the platform, networking magic that is complicated at velocity and other new capabilities around CI/CD, … Let’s not throw the baby out with

Re: The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Bill Johnson
All the cloud clowns aren’t going to be happy. Most of them were the same people who said banks were being replaced by internet banks and one had 40 million accounts. The same people didn’t think pharmacies were open 24 by 7. (I know not ALL) Those same people have never seen interest rates

Re: MVS/370 System Initialization Library?

2022-11-10 Thread Joe Monk
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/370/OS_VS2/Release_3.7_1977/GC28-0681-2_OSVS2_SPL_Initialization_and_Tuning_Guide_VS2_Release_3.7_3rd_ed_197601.pdf Joe On Thu, Nov 10, 2022 at 6:30 AM Seymour J Metz wrote: > Does anybody have a link for a scanned copy of System Initialization > Library for

The world was promised 'cloud magic'. So much for that fairy tale

2022-11-10 Thread Phil Smith III
https://www-theregister-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.theregister.com/AMP/2 022/11/02/cloud_magic_era_ends/ Funny, nobody said this about timesharing back in the day. (yeah, yeah, EVERYTHING was different, but still) -- For

Re: JES2 z22 model privileged resources

2022-11-10 Thread Richard Pinion
At least I know I'm not the only one seeing this behavior. Thanks for the reply. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Limiting quantity of tape drives used by user

2022-11-10 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 17:52:14 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 05:42:56 -0600, Dave Jousma wrote: > >>I appreciate all the comments. What I need though is an external control, >>like thruput manager. The developer that did this didnt even know they were >>tape files. So to

Re: GTTERM assistance

2022-11-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Try running a trace and posting, e.g., BIND, CINIT, INIT, RR units and responses. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Brian Chapman [bchapma...@gmail.com]

Re: GTTERM assistance

2022-11-10 Thread Brian Chapman
Normal processing is for the user to enter a logon string and for Unformatted System Services (or the TN3270 equivalent to USS) to convert it to SNA. Shmuel, It should be this scenario. The address space issues the SETLOGON macro with the LOGON parameter which addresses a logon exit routine. I

Re: GTTERM assistance

2022-11-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Normal processing is for the user to enter a logon string and for Unformatted System Services (or the TN3270 equivalent to USS) to convert it to SNA. That process determines a BIND image. If, instead, your application initiates the session then your application is responsible for providing the

MVS/370 System Initialization Library?

2022-11-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does anybody have a link for a scanned copy of System Initialization Library for MVS/370 (anything from OS/VS2 R2 through MVS/SP V1) that I can cite for wikipedia? Also, does anybody remember when addition nucleus load modules came in? When the parmlib member replaced the csect for selecting

Re: GTTERM assistance (really 3270 VTAM application?)

2022-11-10 Thread Brian Chapman
Michael, Are you saying that sense code 084E is only applicable for LU6.2? I receive the same sense code on my emulator when I attempt a logon to the opened ACB. You have 3 R6's?: DMHREG EQU R6 VTAMREG EQU R6 LRR6,R1 LOAD DYNAMIC SESSION LA

Re: JES2 z22 model privileged resources

2022-11-10 Thread Rob Scott
I can replicate this on my 2.4 system, whereas my 2.5 system in the same MAS reports this correctly. Tracing the data returned from JES2 on 2.4, I can see that the values for LMDUPMAX and LMDUPUSE are the same (these are the fields that SDSF uses to populate those column values). I suggest

Re: GTTERM assistance (really 3270 VTAM application?)

2022-11-10 Thread Michael Stein
> Sense code 084E - IBM Documentation > That's for LU6.2. What are your terminals, I thought they were 3270s? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/search/3270?scope=SSLTBW_2.4.0=istprg0