Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Farley, Peter
That first one I did read as a pre-teen in the "If" magazine publication (RIP; a fabulous magazine that enlarged my imagination). My parents were subscribers, and I became one too when I began to earn enough to fund my own hobbies. The second one I do not think I ever saw before. Peter

Re: How to remove an empty USS file shipped with z/OS

2023-04-17 Thread Brian Westerman
/etc/security and /iked.conf are both part of Internet Key Exchange Daemon(IKED), which was changed in z/OS 2.2, and 2.3, I don't think there were changes in 2.4 or 2.5 Even though it's int he etc directory, you probably should not delete it. Unless you are sure you won't need IKED. Brian

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Don Leahy
I was skeptical about option 3.4 when it first came out. I knew all of *my* data set names and I was a good typist. I cannot live without a data set list manager now. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 16:22 Bob Bridges wrote: > Reminds me of a coworker at an insurance company in Ohio I worked at a >

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Bob Bridges
Out of curiosity, how do you distinguish between data leakage and security vulnerability? I would have said the former is one type of the latter. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* In God we trust! All others bring data. -W Edwards Deming */ -Original

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
There's also and -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Farley, Peter

Re: Tape compression and modern encryption facilities.

2023-04-17 Thread Glenn Wilcock
This discussion is all about use cases and data types. As mentioned in this thread, not all data supports zEDC and it's highly unlikely that everything will be encrypted. I would recommend analyzing the data written to your tape environment and determine if it would be beneficial to turn off

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
I don't think it addresses a security vulnerability per se. It addresses data leakage. The folks I am working for do not allow any data to escape their systems without prior authorisation. But maybe that is a vulnerability issue. Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Asimov book [was: RE: Images rather than etext]

2023-04-17 Thread Farley, Peter
I just used search term "Holmes Ginsbook Device" (without the quotes, but note spaces between words). First hit returned was the Asimov book. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 6:58 PM To:

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 22:35:07 +, Farley, Peter wrote: >Thanks for that Asimov reference. That's one of his books I have not read >(and there are many, I sadly admit; so many books, so little time . . .) but I >will look for that one. > Thanks. I needed to add "Asimov" to the search keys,

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 21:35:13 +, Farley, Peter wrote: > >One of the required management tools in use here (third party, mostly not >in-house developed) requires you to use an on-page "back" button because the >browser "back" button takes you back to the login page. <*Doh*> > One site, which

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Farley, Peter
Thanks for that Asimov reference. That's one of his books I have not read (and there are many, I sadly admit; so many books, so little time . . .) but I will look for that one. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Monday,

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObHolmesGinsbookDevice "International icons, equally unintelligible in every language" From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Farley, Peter <031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Monday, April 17, 2023 5:35 PM To:

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Farley, Peter
The problem for many of us (well, at least for me and my significant other) is that their little "icons" are often anything but intuitive unless you are already steeped in that culture. One of the required management tools in use here (third party, mostly not in-house developed) requires you

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2023-04-17 16:30 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: That's one of the points of a GUI: you shouldn't have to explain it. In fact, there's a saying I'm a firm believer in: "A GUI is like a joke: if you have to explain it, it's not very good." My favorite UX book for web apps has the title "Don't Make

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:30:14 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote: > >I'm a keyboard guy, like most folks here, but have to disagree: UI >consistency is a huge productivity enhancer for some of us. The fact that >"modern" web pages often do NOT follow ~20 years of web conventions is very >irritating. Heck,

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:22:40 -0400, Bob Bridges wrote: >... >Finally I put my foot now: Not accepting any more scraps of paper. Send me >the email! He did it, too. Maybe he was just old-fashioned. Maybe he still >is. > You're lucky. He might have scanned the scraps of paper and

Re: Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Phil Smith III
Bob Bridges wrote, in part: >When I first started reading the reasons we should all adopt Windows, >two of the reasons didn't impress me. One was the "consistent user >interface". I'd been using WordPerfect, Lotus 1-2-3, Harvard Graphics >etc, and of course the mainframe, and I didn't see any

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Bob Bridges
At some of my clients - not all of them - yeah, I cannot cut and paste between my own PC and the session I have on the client's network. It's a pain, and I'm with others here who don't see that it addresses a security vulnerability. But it's not crippling; I can just email it from one place

Images rather than etext

2023-04-17 Thread Bob Bridges
Reminds me of a coworker at an insurance company in Ohio I worked at a couple times. He'd write down a list of user IDs on a scrap of paper, walk the paper back to my desk and ask me to investigate some aspect of them. As this kept happening, I started asking him why he didn't just forward

Re: If You Had Invested $10,000 In IBM In 2013, This Is How Much You Would Have Today

2023-04-17 Thread zMan
Fair enough. One could argue that a blue chip like IBM is quite different from an upstart, and that the GM bankruptcy was a black swan, but it's a fair point. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:59 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > If you had invested 10,000 in

Re: zHPF gotcha's ?

2023-04-17 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 07:02:29 -0500, Jantje. wrote: >Dear Listers, > >After having wade through the last 5 years worth of posts in this list where >the word zHPF is mentioned I am now tending to my headache. And I still have >no real answer to my questions... > >I am all but a storage

Re: zHPF gotcha's ?

2023-04-17 Thread Mark Jacobs
It was implemented before my time at $currentjob, but knowing the environment it was likely implemented first in the developmental systems then migrated to production systems later. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 17:09:24 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: >In order to do our work, our laptops can only connect to the one MF IP >address that have been provided by the client. The Citrix client if for >accessing the client ticketing software, so that we can process their >requests. Copy/Paste

Re: zHPF gotcha's ?

2023-04-17 Thread Steve Kocik
Q: " Does one activate zHPF one LPAR at a time or in a big bang for all LPARs in the sysplex?" A: An installation can do it either way, there is no requirement to activate on all LPARs in a sysplex at once. Q: Do I have to tell DB2 that zHPF has been activated for it to take advantage of it?

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Jack Zukt
In order to do our work, our laptops can only connect to the one MF IP address that have been provided by the client. The Citrix client if for accessing the client ticketing software, so that we can process their requests. Copy/Paste greatly simplifies passing those requests to the 3270. No other

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Colin Paice
It may be with FTP they have an audit trail of who had access to the data. You do not get this with cut and paste. Not do you get audit trace with capturing screen image, or taking photos of the screen. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 13:22 Michael Babcock wrote: > We also use Citrix and ours has been

How to remove an empty USS file shipped with z/OS

2023-04-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
List - I am being asked to take one of two actions on a USS file that is part of Server Pac the /etc/security seems to be part of Server pac I have been asked to update the permissions different that what is shipped or to remove this directory path (it is empty) I can do either

Re: zHPF gotcha's ?

2023-04-17 Thread Jantje.
On Fri, 14 Apr 2023 14:48:28 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: >We've been using zHPF for many years, no problems. We also just recently >enabled VTOC_USE_ZHPF in DEVSUPxx, also no problems. I'd check for any missing >maintenance both for z/OS and DB2 that mention zHPF. FIXCAT

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Farley, Peter
My comment on this is that no company who is serious about security allows any old PC (Windows or Linux) to connect into their mainframe system. You issue company laptops tightly controlled by the internal IT team and provide normal TN3270 software on those laptops for mainframe access over

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Jack Zukt
Thank you Gil, I was in need of a good laugh, Best wishes Jack On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 16:11, Paul Gilmartin < 042bfe9c879d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:52:32 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: > > > >Print screens can still be done but,as it has been said, those are

Re: JCL EXEC PARM= default?

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:57:22 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Sorry, that should be "That's not a GUPI." > SDSF? >>On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 02:01:10 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >>> >>>No. The only way to distinguish them is to scan the JCL or the internal text. -- gil

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 14:52:32 +0100, Jack Zukt wrote: > >Print screens can still be done but,as it has been said, those are images, >not text. > Make sure they don't find out about OCR. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: If You Had Invested $10,000 In IBM In 2013, This Is How Much You Would Have Today

2023-04-17 Thread Bill Johnson
If you had invested 10,000 in Tesla 2 years ago, you’d now have 5,000. If you bought bitcoin in 2021, you lost half. If you purchased GM stock in 2006, you lost it all. If you bought a real bank like JPM in 2013, you tripled your money. Most of the “high growth” stocks that Silicon Valley has

Re: JCL EXEC PARM= default?

2023-04-17 Thread Seymour J Metz
Sorry, that should be "That's not a GUPI." -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Seymour J Metz [sme...@gmu.edu] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 11:52 PM To:

If You Had Invested $10,000 In IBM In 2013, This Is How Much You Would Have Today

2023-04-17 Thread zMan
https://www.fool.com/investing/2023/04/17/if-you-had-invested-1-in-ibm-in-2013-this-is-h/ TL;DR: Less than $10,000. -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi all, Print screens can still be done but,as it has been said, those are images, not text. >From what you all have said, it seems that this is the way things are going to be. Thank you all for your time and input. Best wishes Jack On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 at 14:41, Oscar wrote: > El 2023-04-17

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes with a client. They turned that feature off. It was not that they were afraid of malware, it was they were afraid of a "data breach". Steve Thompson On 4/17/2023 6:52 AM, Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient In one of the

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Oscar
El 2023-04-17 14:21, Michael Babcock escribió: We also use Citrix and ours has been disabled for quite some time now. Yep, same here. We can paste to Citrix but not the other way around. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 5:54 AM Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, This is way off topic, sorry, but I am

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Dustin Hayes
Vanguard Integrity Professionals - External I'm guessing the way you worded it means that you were using your laptop to connect to ClientX. I frequently do the same and understand from their view they have no ability to see what is on my PC nor any ability to manage it. Copy/Paste in that

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Tom Brennan
Yep. And I'd bet copy/paste was disabled where Jack Teixeira worked. On 4/17/2023 4:56 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 11:52:24 +0100 Jack Zukt wrote: :>This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient :>In one of the clients for which I have to work the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ABEND S0C1 start TUBES

2023-04-17 Thread Pommier, Rex
I would say Tubes would be vital to a production system - it is a 3270 session manager. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Beverly Caldwell Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 7:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ABEND S0C1 start

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: ABEND S0C1 start TUBES

2023-04-17 Thread Pommier, Rex
That doesn't matter. We run a z14 at the home office and have a z15 at DR and DR comes up just fine. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2023 6:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: ABEND S0C1

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Jon Butler
What about PC tools such as Snagit or CNTL+WIN+S? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Michael Babcock
We also use Citrix and ours has been disabled for quite some time now. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 5:54 AM Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi all, > > This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient > In one of the clients for which I have to work the Auditors found out that > the

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 11:52:24 +0100 Jack Zukt wrote: :>This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient :>In one of the clients for which I have to work the Auditors found out that :>the Copy/Paste between the client Citrix session and our PCs is a risk and :>the client

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Colin Paice
I heard that data can be hidden in the 3270 data stream, for example in dark fields. Cut/ copy may transfer this to the pc buffer. I don't know about the pasting.. eg it may be able to create an executable. On Mon, Apr 17, 2023, 11:54 Jack Zukt wrote: > Hi all, > > This is way off topic,

CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-17 Thread Jack Zukt
Hi all, This is way off topic, sorry, but I am curious, so please be patient In one of the clients for which I have to work the Auditors found out that the Copy/Paste between the client Citrix session and our PCs is a risk and the client disabled the function. Has anyone else ever has such an

Re: Tape compression and modern encryption facilities.

2023-04-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: >NO MORE TAPES connected directly to the z/OS. The last physical drive >TS1140 is out of support. I don't think IBM ever offered any physical tape drives directly connected to z/OS, i.e. physical tape drives with FICON or ESCON ports on them. The IBM TS1140 certainly