Re: IOF End of Support Direction.....

2023-04-21 Thread kekronbekron
Phoenix Software has (E)JES, and Syzygy has SyzSPOOL/z and SyzMAIL/z. SDSF also has mail capability of some sort (adding mail notification to jobs and maybe some more related functionality). - KB --- Original Message --- On Saturday, April 22nd, 2023 at 2:42 AM, Longnecker, Dennis

Re: Do you need a coupling facility to implement DVIPA?

2023-04-21 Thread Laurence Chiu
Thanks Timothy for confirming that. We are planning to implement a sysplex where we want a critical application to have high availability without a parallel sysplex. The solution being discussed is to install the application on two LPARs but have it active only one at any time due to dataset

Re: Question about IEAARR Process

2023-04-21 Thread Steve Smith
Based on my experience (I have no inside knowledge), IEARR is a very simple non-space-switching PC program that calls your specified EP as a subroutine, and same goes for the ARR address. It's very simple... no subtask is involved, nor any of the privilege modifications that PCs would normally be

Re: IOF End of Support Direction.....

2023-04-21 Thread Rob Schramm
It just seemed to me that IOF wasn't keeping up with SDSF. I didn't know about the email thing. Sounds like a good enhancement. Rob On Fri, Apr 21, 2023, 20:43 Bob Bridges wrote: > By the way, just to respond to that one feature you like about IOF, you can > simulate that in SDSF by writing

Re: IOF End of Support Direction.....

2023-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
By the way, just to respond to that one feature you like about IOF, you can simulate that in SDSF by writing a REXX. If you're not a programmer at heart then it isn't as good, I realize. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The more sophisticated the technology, the more

Re: IOF End of Support Direction.....

2023-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
Ack! I ~like~ IOF! Can't answer your question, though. My current client uses SDSF; the one before that used SYSVIEW. Hm, I do have contacts at an IOF site, though; I think I'll ask Gary what the word is there. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* The more

Question about IEAARR Process

2023-04-21 Thread esst...@juno.com
Hello . . Can anyone add some additional information regarding IEAARR. I am trying to clean up an existing Associated Recovery Routine, by first using IEAARR to drive a Target Routine that is designed to Abend and drive the Associated Recovery Routine. . This works well .. I have No issues with

Re: Command/interface to find the total size of a MIGRAT2 disk file?

2023-04-21 Thread Farley, Peter
That assumes that normal unauthorized users can access DCOLLECT data and reports generated from it (not necessarily true) or if they have access to the data, that they also have access to the tools needed to process it and the knowledge of how to use those tools (neither one necessarily true)

Re: Command/interface to find the total size of a MIGRAT2 disk file?

2023-04-21 Thread Glenn Wilcock
For future reference, HSM DCOLLECT reports are also available if you want reports for larger amounts of information. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Bob Bridges
I do this often enough that it's the first thing that occurred to me, too. Dunno as I'd agree with "pointless", though. Some of my REXXes check to see whether the exec was called as a TSO command or Edit macro - with or without the TSO prefix, in other words, from an ISPF command line - and

IOF End of Support Direction.....

2023-04-21 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Please excuse me if this is been asked already, haven't seen it. https://www.triangle-systems.com/End%20of%20IOF%20Support.shtml We have used IOF for quite a awhile, and frankly it has some wonderful functionality that I haven't seen in SDSF (like the ability to send the output to email

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-21 Thread Rob Schramm
Paul, I hate to say it... but hacking the brain via audio has been around a while. I don't know how many braille-based hacks are out there.. maybe it is incentive for us all to return to "punch cards" (get it.. braille .. kind of like a punch card) Rob On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 4:24 PM Rick

Re: CyberSecurity Risk

2023-04-21 Thread Rick Troth
ANY and ALL intercommunication brings risk. DISABLING it has COSTS. We use computers from the get-go for the sake of AUTOMATION. Disabling copy-n-paste does not prevent your fingers typing what you see on the screen (either direction). Disabling your fingers would render you measurably less

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 11:33, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > IMHO it is not related to the group. > > How is a question about the HMC on an IBM mainframe not related to > IBM-MAIN? > Not the group IBM-MAIN - the group the OP mentioned in "I created a custom group that contains a subset of the LPARs

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Dana Mitchell
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:35:38 +, Mark Jacobs wrote: > >I can assign a different activation profile for the same physical lpar in each >group. I can see the benefits and potential problems by doing so. The team >discussed it this morning and we're all good now. > At a previous shop, we had

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
Hi Dave, Thanks for the response. No I am not editing the target data directly. We are working out of a pds separate from SMPe libraries. The user mod looks like what I'm after. I will look into that.. On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:37:15 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:10:19

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Dave Jousma
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 13:10:19 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >various jobs for Db2 software maintenance, such as DSNTIJUZ DSNTIJUA DSNTIJRT. >Bill >On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 10:19:07 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote: > >>On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:36:40 -0500, Bill Giannelli >>wrote: >> So, those are DB2 jobs.

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
various jobs for Db2 software maintenance, such as DSNTIJUZ DSNTIJUA DSNTIJRT. Bill On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 10:19:07 -0500, Dave Jousma wrote: >On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:36:40 -0500, Bill Giannelli >wrote: > >>Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job >>updates?

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>>1) You could use IPOUPDTE also. David, AFAIK , IPOUPDTE can only work on PDS but does NOT work with sequential datasets. OP hasn't specified if the input is a pds or sequential datasets. File-Manager handles both PDS and sequential files. >>2) Does File manager do "intelligent changes"

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
Or use TSO EDIT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Sri h Kolusu [skol...@us.ibm.com] Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023 12:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Tom Brennan
But to be clear, this all has nothing to do with (mentioned) JCLIN processing, right? On 4/21/2023 8:51 AM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Bill, You could treat JCL (with line numbers on) as a ++MAC in SMP. Each "PTF" (++MACUPD) could be IEBUPDTE Control cards (e.g. ./ CHANGE followed by numbered

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Kolusu, 1) You could use IPOUPDTE also. 2) Does File manager do "intelligent changes" like ISPF Edit? (If Source String and Target String are different lengths, does the "line" beyond the change get shifted, or, if there multiple blanks, not necessarily) Regards, David On 2023-04-21

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Sri h Kolusu
>> Is there a way to do this Edit stuff without a separate macro? Billy, If you have access to FILE Manger tool then you can pass the parms as variables to job and it will update the file. Here is a simple example // EXPORT SYMLIST=* // SET SRCSTRNG='BILLY ' // SET TGTSTRNG='ASHTON' /*

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 15:18:32 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >It's simple, but, IMHO, pointless. At the beginning of the macro, you test the >current environment. If it's not ISREDIT, then call EDIT with an initial macro. > The initial command environment will be TSO in either case. You may be

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, You could treat JCL (with line numbers on) as a ++MAC in SMP. Each "PTF" (++MACUPD) could be IEBUPDTE Control cards (e.g. ./ CHANGE followed by numbered "cards". Regards, David On 2023-04-21 08:51, Bill Giannelli wrote: SCLM seems geared towards COBOL and PLI not JCL? On Fri, 21

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 21.04.2023 o 17:32, Seymour J Metz pisze: IMHO it is not related to the group. How is a question about the HMC on an IBM mainframe not related to IBM-MAIN? I did not say IBM-MAIN. I mentioned "custom group that contains a subset..." -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Mark Jacobs
As it turned out I answered my own question yesterday late afternoon. I can create multiple groups, and assign the same lpar to as many groups as I desire. I can assign a different activation profile for the same physical lpar in each group. I can see the benefits and potential problems by

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
> IMHO it is not related to the group. How is a question about the HMC on an IBM mainframe not related to IBM-MAIN? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Friday, April

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 21.04.2023 o 16:57, Billy Ashton pisze: Hey Rexxers, I suspect that this is simple, but my old, feeble brain can't find the answer. Is it possible to use a Rexx program to edit a file (maybe a PDS member, maybe a flat file, shouldn't care) and to issue ISREDIT commands there, but not

Re: Z15 HMC Question

2023-04-21 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 20.04.2023 o 16:37, Mark Jacobs pisze: I created a custom group that contains a subset of the LPARs defined on that CEC. When I assign an activation profile to an LPAR in the custom group, the new assignment isn't being reflected in the Systems Management tab for the LPARs I changed,

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Dave Jousma
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:36:40 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job >updates? >Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date. >It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke > Bill, No one has asked yet,

Re: Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Seymour J Metz
It's simple, but, IMHO, pointless. At the beginning of the macro, you test the current environment. If it's not ISREDIT, then call EDIT with an initial macro. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Billy Ashton Sent: Friday, April 21, 2023

Edit commands without a macro?

2023-04-21 Thread Billy Ashton
Hey Rexxers, I suspect that this is simple, but my old, feeble brain can't find the answer. Is it possible to use a Rexx program to edit a file (maybe a PDS member, maybe a flat file, shouldn't care) and to issue ISREDIT commands there, but not by using a separate macro? IOW, I want to have a

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Rob Scott
SCLM has been functionality stabilized for many years now - I would suggest trying to find another alternative. Perhaps use Git for z/OS ? You could maintain the master JCL in zFS directories under Git control with a "deployment" method to copy to run-time PDS/Es. There is also Lionel Dyke's

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
SCLM seems geared towards COBOL and PLI not JCL? On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 22:18:52 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Bill, > >If SCLM is installed there is a sample project you can work from. That >should be a good starter. > >There is a set of JCL members to set up a project, use that as a basis. >

Re: How to remove an empty USS file shipped with z/OS

2023-04-21 Thread Rick Troth
Yes. I wondered the same thing: who is asking, and WHY? /etc/security is increasingly common on POSIX systems. If something "out there" in your enterprise is getting tripped-up by it, methinks that something needs fixing. -- R; <>< On 4/18/23 14:48, Marna WALLE wrote: Hi Lizette,

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Bill, If SCLM is installed there is a sample project you can work from. That should be a good starter. There is a set of JCL members to set up a project, use that as a basis. Any questions, just keep asking away. On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:57 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > Hi Wayne, > I see SCLM

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
Hi Wayne, I see SCLM now in ISPF. I wasnt aware of it. Is the IBM online doc good enough for a SCLM newbie? thanks Bill On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 06:48:00 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >hi wayne, >what is SCLM? >On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:43:25 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > >>I would use SCLM if you

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
hi wayne, what is SCLM? On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 21:43:25 +1000, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool. > >On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli >wrote: > >> Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job >>

Re: SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
I would use SCLM if you don't have another source management tool. On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:37 PM Bill Giannelli wrote: > Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job > updates? > Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date. > It seems

SMP/E JCLIN processing for job updates

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Giannelli
Do many of you out there use SMP/E JCLIN processing to track and save job updates? Currently we do not make use of this and manually keep JCL up to date. It seems there is a value to have SMPe ke -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /