Re: How can I keep JES2 from being SYSPLEXed?

2024-01-19 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hi Wendell, In our production sysplex we have 6 different JESplexes. One of those JES2 MASplex uses Checkpoint in the Coupling Facility. The other 5 all use DASD checkpoint datasets. Never had any sort of cross sysplex issues. Regards Bruce

Re: Transmitting SMF records

2024-01-19 Thread Cheryl Watson
I know that I’m late to this game, but we used to have a free tool to handle this called ‘WWUNTERSE’, which has been used by hundreds of people. It is now being made available by its original developer, Mario Bezzi, at this link - https://www.ap4zlabs.com/free-tools. All my best, Cheryl

Re: JES2 Policy Crafting

2024-01-19 Thread Cheryl Watson
Mike was the excellent source for that article in our Tuning Letter, and he is welcome to share it. Please respect the copyright. All my best, Cheryl On Oct 26, 2023, at 6:25 AM, Mike Shorkend wrote: If you have access to SHARE or GSE UK proceedings, I have given a couple of presentations on

Re: SMF Interval

2024-01-19 Thread Cheryl Watson
Hi all, Yes, 30 minutes was my recommendation for safety. But if it were my shop, I would use 15 minutes, but not 5. Here’s my reasoning. My recommendations go out to people who are experienced and those who are newbies. When SMF writes its records, it’s one of the highest priority tasks. If

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Steve Beaver
The more they want to move away the harder it becomes. A few years ago Coca-Cola moved to AWS but I have no idea how They did it possible with Micro-Focus Cobol Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: How can I keep JES2 from being SYSPLEXed?

2024-01-19 Thread Paul Feller
I'm not sure I have an answer for you at this time. But I do have a few questions. Are the JES2 checkpoint datasets for the two systems the same name? Are the VOLSERs the same name? I don't have access to any z/OS anymore but when I did, we had three different JES2 MAS in one sysplex and

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Yes, I'm aware of this method, thank you for mentioning it. However that way does not allow generics. Obviously I could create some REXX script for that, but I don't want to reinvent the wheel. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 19.01.2024 o 19:42, Matthew Stitt pisze: I"ve used

How can I keep JES2 from being SYSPLEXed?

2024-01-19 Thread Wendell Lovewell
I have two systems that I want to share dasd and allow for VSAM RLS between the systems, but I don’t want to SYSPLEX JES2. I have MASDEF SHARED=NOCHECK. What else can I do to un-sysplex JES? Is it safe to delete the JES2 and/or SYSJES group definitions from XCF? I don't have a JES_CKPT_1

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale -- Jammed it in Reverse...

2024-01-19 Thread Dave Beagle
No wonder IBM stock is hitting another new high today. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, January 19, 2024, 3:44 PM, Steve Thompson wrote: They migrated to that mainframe environment as quickly as they could. A reverse Boot Hill story. Steve Thompson

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Charles Mills
LOL. I had a client -- it's been a while now but I still should not mention names, but a household name everyone in North America would recognize. They embarked on a project to get off the mainframe. They ended up getting rid of the SVP whose idea it was instead. Security walked him out the

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale -- Jammed it in Reverse...

2024-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
They migrated to that mainframe environment as quickly as they could. A reverse Boot Hill story. Steve Thompson -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jan 19, 2024, at 1:51 PM, Charles Mills wrote: "We're in the 25th year of a 3-year project to get off the mainframe." We started a five year project to get off the mainframe around 2012 or 2013. Interestingly, although we haven’t replaced the mainframe, we have replaced all the upper

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
I can't resist this. A certain Electric Utility asked some consultants about how to remediate for Y2K. They were told the best way to do it was to migrate off their mainframe to some fad app/language. So they made the cut some months before Y2K and reports they had done on demand (where do

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Mike Schwab
If the dataset goes into more extents the refresh won't pick up the new extent(s) and the member fetch will fail. Can also reach the maximum number of extents. On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 9:19 AM Steely.Mark wrote: > Unless I am missing something why not use IEBCOPY with specifying DISP=SHR > on

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes, Tim, perennially entertaining. A client I did some work for a couple years ago has been working on a two-year project to dump their mainframe for the past six years; they're still plugging away at it. A year ago they got new a new mainframe box which of course involved upgrading z/OS and

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Charles Mills
"We're in the 25th year of a 3-year project to get off the mainframe." CM On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 12:42:11 -0600, Tim Ribble wrote: >Greetings all, > >Haven't posted here in quite some time but I thought it'd be fun to post >another "getting off the mainframe" story. Been working for the City of

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread rpinion865
2022??? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Friday, January 19th, 2024 at 2:40 PM, Steve Beaver <050e0c375a14-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I was up in Seattle at Pemco insurance. They made the decision to leave the > mainframe > In 1995, > > Well its 2022 and they are

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Langsam langsam aber sicher... I saw that here in Israel. It take on a stage of 15 years. ITschak *| **Itschak Mugzach | Director | SecuriTeam Software **|** IronSphere Platform* *|* *Information Security Continuous Monitoring for Z/OS, zLinux and IBM I **| * *|* *Email**:

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Steve Beaver
I was up in Seattle at Pemco insurance. They made the decision to leave the mainframe In 1995, Well its 2022 and they are still on the mainframe Regards, Steve Steve Thompson On 1/19/2024 1:42 PM, Tim Ribble wrote: > Greetings all, > > Haven't posted here in quite some time but I

Re: Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Steve Thompson
Since this is a city, any way of getting reports that would allow you to see how much it cost to go off their mainframe? And then any way to project the cost of now (what ever architecture) to say a z14? I think it could be instructive. Steve Thompson On 1/19/2024 1:42 PM, Tim Ribble wrote:

Another Getting away from the mainframe tale

2024-01-19 Thread Tim Ribble
Greetings all, Haven't posted here in quite some time but I thought it'd be fun to post another "getting off the mainframe" story. Been working for the City of San Antonio for 25 years now. I started as part of the mainframe staff and that was my primary function until 2009 when it was decided

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Matthew Stitt
I"ve used IEBCOPY with DISP=SHR and VOL=SER with no issues for years. Matthew Stitt On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 17:31:46 +, Ituriel do Neto wrote: >BYPASSNQ program ? > > >Best Regards > >Ituriel do Nascimento Neto >z/OS System Programmer > >Hi Radek, >- Run ICKDSF to take the VTOC out of

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Ituriel do Neto
BYPASSNQ program ? Best Regards Ituriel do Nascimento Neto z/OS System Programmer Em sexta-feira, 19 de janeiro de 2024 às 14:24:02 BRT, David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> escreveu: Hi Radek, - Run ICKDSF to take the VTOC out of Indexed Format (BUILDOS)

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, - Run ICKDSF to take the VTOC out of Indexed Format (BUILDOS) - ZAP the VTOC  (i.e. FORMAT4.DSCB) to change the DSNAME to something innocuous. - Compress via IEBCOPY - ZAP the DSNAME to SYS1.LINKLIB - Run ICKDSF to put the VTOC into Indexed Format (BUILDIX) I've done this, but, not

STGADMIN.DPDSRN.dsname and RENAME

2024-01-19 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Apologies Radoslaw, It appears that IEHPROGM will not make use of STGADMIN.DPDSRN.olddsname profile. Use of that FACILITY class profile requires that a bit be set in the CAMLST macro expansion. It appears IEHPROGM has not been altered to support this. The DFSMS Advanced Services manual

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Steely.Mark
Unless I am missing something why not use IEBCOPY with specifying DISP=SHR on the dataset name. I have done this with datasets that were allocated to the LNKLST. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, January 19,

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Radoslaw wrote >>3. I don't know how to rename such datasets! Yes, I could imagine access from >>another z/OS image, but it would be a series of manual ISPF r command. >>Non-repeatable, error prone. Is there any tool allowing to rename such >>datasets in batch? Wildcard support (i.e. REN SYS1.*

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential 1 copy w/ADRDSSU) TOLENQFAILURE and RENUNC Or Allocate new; copy from original w/IEBCOPY 3) test -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, January 19, 2024 8:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread rpinion865
Do you have access to the FDR products? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Friday, January 19th, 2024 at 9:18 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka <0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Gentlemen, > First, thank you for your answers. I appreciate it. > > Regarding TOLENQF - it

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
Gentlemen, First, thank you for your answers. I appreciate it. Regarding TOLENQF - it doesn't work with COMPRESS or CONSOLIDATE. The manual is clear here. Regarding rename - this is the thing I wanted to avoid for several reasons: 1. There is some risk to rename wrong "copy" of the dataset,

Re: Looking to invoke abend in IBM PC call Service

2024-01-19 Thread Joseph Reichman
Thanks all I’m trying to report where whitin the service it abended and where the service was called I know most are space switching stacking routines My SDWA should therefore contain different entries for SDWAEC1 and SDWAEC2 Thank you > On Jan 19, 2024, at 8:46 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > >

Re: Looking to invoke abend in IBM PC call Service

2024-01-19 Thread Peter Relson
Pick your favorite service, look what abends it issues and code the parameters so that they match the thing that is complained about. How about STORAGE OBTAIN,COND=NO,LOC=24,LINKAGE=SYSTEM,SP=0 with a LENGTH amount of 16M, which will get the abend indicating "could not get the storage you asked

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Rename the "copy" prior to attempting compress. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: Friday, January 19, 2024 6:27 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq [CAUTION: This Email

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Rename data set first? https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=gcr-renaming-data-set-that-might-be-in-use Lennie -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Radoslaw Skorupka Sent: 19 January 2024 12:27 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: ADRDSSU COMPRESS

Re: ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Colin Paice
Try TOL(ENQ) for tolerate enqueue failure https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.4.0?topic=keywords-tolerate On Fri, 19 Jan 2024 at 12:27, Radoslaw Skorupka < 0471ebeac275-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I want to compress some system datasets like SYS1.LINKLIB, but *not* > real "live",

ADRDSSU COMPRESS and enq

2024-01-19 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
I want to compress some system datasets like SYS1.LINKLIB, but *not* real "live", rather offline copies. DSS ends with RC8, because of failed serialization. SETPROG LNKLST,UNALLOCATE will not solve all the enqueues, because some datasets are serialized by other entities like TSO users. And I

Re: Looking to invoke abend in IBM PC call Service

2024-01-19 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/18/2024 3:34 PM, Joseph Reichman wrote: I am looking to cause an abend in IBM Service that is invoked by a PC call (bad parameters) so as to test out Estate Type Recovery for CBT file 192 Just off the top of my head I would probably issue two ISGENQ REQUEST=OBTAINs requesting an

Re: Looking to invoke abend in IBM PC call Service

2024-01-19 Thread Rob Scott
I would imagine that most PC routines would establish recovery and gracefully terminate with a "something bad was passed to me" RC+RSN for instances like this. Perhaps forcing a well-known abend+rsn with a COND=NO style call might be better - maybe a flavour of STORAGE OBTAIN or IARV64 ? Rob