Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
This was recently discussed. PSATOLD is for the active TCB. The program has a TCB that is paused at TEST breakpoints. The active TCB is a different TCB because TESTAUTH is now active so you can issue TESTAUTH commands. Jon Perryman. From: MichealButz

Re: Compiled rexx fails on readfile

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
variable substitution. I can't remember if it's REXX or UNIX environment variables. Either use the parenthesis or REXX variable substitution but not both because you don't have a variable defined with the file name string. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin

Re: I am getting message IKJ56866I DATA SET NOT ALLOCATED, CONCURRENT ALLOCATIONS

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
It sounds like the FREE is not working properly. LISTDS ST would display the allocated datasets See if your datasets are actually being freed or what is causing the large number of dynamic datasets Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com

Re: TSO test confusion ?

2014-02-01 Thread Jon Perryman
I'm not sure what you are asking or what you are saying is incorrect. LISTCB will display the TCB for the program you are testing which is what you see in R15. Obviously it should not be the TCB where LISTTCB is running which is PSATOLD.  Jon Perryman

Re: Compiled rexx program runs native in OMVS but not as CGI

2014-01-29 Thread Jon Perryman
STDOUT and STDERR to disk. Look at those disk files after running your REXX. Jon Perryman.  - Original Message - From: jan de decker jan.je...@gmail.com When trying to invoke the same compiled program from HTML the browser stays connecting and eventually times out

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Jon Perryman
Have you tried running PGM=BPXBATCH instead and run the exec as a UNIX script? You would need to place the exec in a UNIX file and change ALLOC to BPXWDYN. As for the truncation error, have you tried changing the dataset's attributes (LRECL, BLKSIZE and RECFM)? Jon Perryman

Re: pax, ddnames and _BPX_SHAREAS

2014-01-17 Thread Jon Perryman
MVS archive datasets are supported by the PAX command. The first paragraph of the MAN PAX page says the archive can be HFS file or MVS dataset. I only have access to the EFGLOBE.COM system so it may now say something different but along the same lines. Jon Perryman

Re: Need help setting up SLIP trap

2014-01-16 Thread Jon Perryman
criteria such as module and offsets. You should to the CICS sysprogs to see if they can help.. Jon Perryman. From: John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: Need help setting up SLIP trap

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-16 Thread Jon Perryman
to? Jon Perryman From: Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com I agree that one would not use indirect volume reference for any file that is shared across LPARs. This would only be for files that are unique for each LPAR. Jon… I thought being SYS1 removed

Re: Console commands to determine version/release

2014-01-16 Thread Jon Perryman
. Jon Perryman. From: Juergen Kehr kehrjuer...@t-online.de I would need some good ideas for console command which will give the current version/release of the product running. The products I'm looking for are: Omegamon NetView TWS Alternatively it would

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Jon Perryman
It's not a requirement that it be a SYS1 dataset. There are advantages to it being SYS1 such as you know immediately it is in the mastercat and is covered by SYS1 RACF rules.  Jon Perryman - Original Message - From: Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com So it must be a SYS1 dataset

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
. To do a RECATALOG, you will need to uncatalog it (DELETE NOSCRATCH).   I don't have a system available to try it out but I think the commands would be: DEFINE CL(NAME('ZFS.ROOT') LINEAR TRACKS(100) VOL(RESVOL)) DELETE 'ZFS.ROOT' NOSCR DEFINE CL(NAME('ZFS.ROOT') LINEAR VOL(SYSR1) RECATALOG) Jon

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
Perryman. From: Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net I don't understand the quest How does this really help. I assume you just want to catalog the zFS datasets with symbolic volume. From: Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com It says

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
Wouldn't the DELETE NOSCRATCH mark the VVCR as not in a catalog and available for RECATALOG? Otherwise we couldn't RECATALOG to another UCAT or must it always be recataloged to the original catalog? Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Pearce, Colin E colin.pea...@baml.com T he

Re: z/OS 1.13 PTF apply Issue

2014-01-13 Thread Jon Perryman
applying PTF's. 2. Don't apply huge number of PTF's at one time. 3. Apply critical component PTF's seperate from other PTF's. 4. Always have another system available to apply PTF's if this system becomes unusable. 5. Don't IPL the system with an incomplete PTF installed (if possible). Jon Perryman

Re: SMP/E GIM69217I

2014-01-13 Thread Jon Perryman
without the sysprog. Jon Perryman. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In 4384793391606637.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/09/2014   at 11:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Is this cloning, sometimes called

Re: ISGENQ REASON CODE 0404

2014-01-10 Thread Jon Perryman
Linking a program AC(1) does not mean it runs authorized. It simply means it can make it's self authorized thru MODESET MODE=SUP. It's real easy to see if this is your problem. Just add MODESET MODE=SUP before the ISGENQ. Jon Perryman.  From: Donald

Re: Error Adding CSVLLIX1 using CSVDYNEX with modaddr paramter

2014-01-09 Thread Jon Perryman
LOAD allows GLOBAL=YES,EOM=NO to put the module in CSA. Or you could use MVS commands to add the module to MLPA and activate it as an exit. . Jon Perryman. From: Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com If I understand the processing for this exit, the exit routine

Re: ISGENQ REASON CODE 0404

2014-01-09 Thread Jon Perryman
Are you saying that your program did a MODESET AUTH=SUP prior to issuing ISGENQ? If not, then you are not running authorized. Otherwise you are correct and you should get reason code 040D. Jon Perryman. From: Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com My

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Jon Perryman
What are you talking about? SDSF has 2 different presentation modes. Either TSO or ISPF. Type TSO SDSF from the ISPF command line and  it won't have any ISPF capabilities such as split screen. Jon Perryman From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Mon

Re: how to get XM(cross memory) jobs on zOS

2014-01-03 Thread Jon Perryman
, by too many sessions or too many stats/exceptions being collected.  Jon Perryman. From: lltvw ll...@126.com I got from my friend that Omegamon address spaces use XM to send and receive data, and sometimes our omemgamon did not work well, so I suppose maybe

Re: Vendor task failing to populate ISPF.SPFTEMP0.CNTL

2014-01-03 Thread Jon Perryman
breakpoints on FTINCL and FTOPEN. Jon Perryman. From:John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu A vendor software task fails to insert JCL's into my SPFTEMP0.CNTL dataset. I get the message: IKJ56265I THE DATA SET IS EMPTY. The vendor says that there is an ISPF

Re: SMP/E ++HOLD FMID() for dependent FUNCTION SYSMOD

2013-12-27 Thread Jon Perryman
for lack of a better term. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 9:20 AM Subject: Re: SMP/E ++HOLD FMID() for dependent FUNCTION SYSMOD On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 19:27:07 -0800, Jon

Re: ISPF Workstation Agent Issue

2013-12-27 Thread Jon Perryman
instances, it also refers to the current state of the socket—for instance, calling accept on a socket that is not listening. My guess would be that you need to use an older version of the .NET framework (maybe 3.5 or even earlier). You should be able to download it from MS. Jon Perryman

Re: SMP/E ++HOLD FMID() for dependent FUNCTION SYSMOD

2013-12-24 Thread Jon Perryman
about? A function sysmod applies to it's self. It may pre or co-req another function but it does not apply to another FMID. As for ++RELEASE, the reason code must match the ++HOLD reason code. It clearly documents it under REASON for ++RELEASE.  Jon Perryman

Re: Does code on both zIIP and zAAP have to run authorized was Re: COBOL IN SRB Mode (Was Un-authorized caller)

2013-12-24 Thread Jon Perryman
want to save money, some software may run authorized that might not have been authorized in the past. IBM decided on this method because rarely will customers risk running their own programs in an authorized environment. Jon Perryman. From: Clark Morris

Re: SMP/E ++HOLD FMID() for dependent FUNCTION SYSMOD

2013-12-24 Thread Jon Perryman
. There is no parent, just pre-req function. Everything within the dependent function shows as to belonging to the dependent function. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 3:52 PM

Re: Mounting /var/wbem to a SERVICE mountpoint for maintenance.

2013-12-19 Thread Jon Perryman
The message should have included a reason code. If so, then TSO BPXMTEXT x will display information that will help you determine what may be your problem. Jon Perryman. From: Brett Danals bdan...@hastingsmutual.com I am attempting to mount my

Re: Mounting /var/wbem to a SERVICE mountpoint for maintenance.

2013-12-19 Thread Jon Perryman
Return codes are documented in 'SYS1.MACLIB(BPXYERNO)'.  Using BPXMTEXT with the reason code usually provides the information you need in resolving these problems. Jon Perryman. From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Good, return codes for modules

Re: WTO confusion

2013-12-19 Thread Jon Perryman
WTL won't help either. It's just a more specific form of WTO. Jon Perryman. From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 4:16 PM Subject: Re: WTO confusion zMan, did you look at the WTL macro

Re: Deinstall software, for example BDT

2013-12-17 Thread Jon Perryman
a product.  As someone mentioned earlier, you should check for cross product dependencies but if you did miss something, then you can just re-install the product. Jon Perryman. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com Not IBM approved, but method we did. 1

Re: OMVS UID display

2013-12-14 Thread Jon Perryman
I think that the first user assigned to OMVS UID 12345 was deleted, or it's OMVS segment was deleted or it was assigned to a new UID. My suggestion is that you modify the user to which you want displayed.  Jon Perryman. From: venkat kulkarni venkatkulkarn

Re: SMF DUMP SB37 - what am I doing wrong?

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Perryman
6 extents times 10 tracks is only 60 tracks but you say it's 157 tracks. There must be another job that is also adding to this dataset. I suspect there is more than just the TYPE(89) records in this dataset. Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org

Re: SMF DUMP SB37 - what am I doing wrong?

2013-12-10 Thread Jon Perryman
be less than or equal to 6 extents times 10 tracks (60) tracks. Jon Perryman  - Original Message - From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org 6 extents times 10 tracks is only 60 tracks but you say it's 157 tracks. Not me! ISPF 3.4 says it's 157 tracks. g Some of the jobs must have

Re: Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking

2013-12-08 Thread Jon Perryman
With the exception of DISP=MOD with multiple open/writes and that the last block will always be, I don't see the difference between FB and FBS. How would FB create a short block in the middle? Jon Perryman - Original Message - From: nitz-...@gmx.net nitz-...@gmx.net To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking

2013-12-07 Thread Jon Perryman
be the blocksize. If you specified blocksize 32760, then each track would contain one physical record of 32760 bytes and the rest of the track. To make it optimal, you specified a blocksize of half a track. Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com I feel

Re: Something to Think About - Optimal PDS Blocking

2013-12-07 Thread Jon Perryman
of the track if desired. I suspect this is what the binder does.  Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Sat, 7 Dec 2013 10:01:14 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote: FBS and VBS work the same as FB and VB except for records spanning into the next block

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-01 Thread Jon Perryman
to change because it's impact outweighs it's advantage. Jon Perryman.  From: Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com Ze'ev appears to me to want to graft what are essentially interactive, conversational facilities onto JCL, which is a batch facility.  This may well

Re: CRONTAB and SYSLOGD

2013-11-29 Thread Jon Perryman
SYSLOGD and CRON work the same as on UNIX. Talk to your UNIX admin about these to get a solution that is suitable for your environment. If you have an MVS automation product or job scheduler, then you can use it in place of CRON.  Jon Perryman. From: Fred

Re: CRONTAB and SYSLOGD

2013-11-28 Thread Jon Perryman
. I think abend analysis came to syslogd but not positive. Jon Perryman.  From: Fred Kaptein fred.kapt...@hp.com We have installed maintenance onto our z/OS R1.13 system and have now noticed that our crontab task is no longer running. We are looking at what

Re: SMP/E question

2013-11-27 Thread Jon Perryman
will be used at the alias entry point. When not specified, the ENTRY will be used for the ALIAS. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:46:07 -0600, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 16:48 -0800 on 11/26/2013, retired mainframer

Re: SMP/E question

2013-11-27 Thread Jon Perryman
DD DSN=TLOAD1 //SYSIN DD *   INCLUDE DLIB(MYMOD)   INCLUDE DLIB(WXMOD)                ENTRY MYMOD   ALIAS  MYPGM   NAME JUNK1 //LINK  EXEC PGM=IEWL,PARM='RENT,REUS' //SYSLMOD DD DSN=TLOAD2 //SYSIN DD *   INCLUDE DLIB(MYMOD)   ENTRY MYMOD   ALIAS  MYPGM   NAME JUNK2 Jon Perryman

Re: USS Callable Assembler Services

2013-11-20 Thread Jon Perryman
already know the functionality from using the UNIX version. Jon Perryman.  From: esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com The issue with the Reason Code has to do with the setting of the MSG_TYPE. The documentation does not expalin it well enough that the MSG_ID

Re: USS Callable Assembler Services

2013-11-18 Thread Jon Perryman
For BPX1QSN, message type is the first word of the message. It contains 0. Jon Perryman. From: esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com L    15,16                CVT - communication vector table L    15,544(15)            CSRTABLE                        L

Re: IXGBRWSE - SMF Logstream

2013-11-17 Thread Jon Perryman
Are you talking about IXGBRMLT?  The doc for IXGBRWSE has it listed in the programming notes. Jon Perryman. From: Jose ADAUTO Ribeiro jada...@uol.com.br Thank you for your answer. I would like to complement my question: the IXGBRWSE macro with REQUEST

Re: 3270 Data Stream Attribute Bytes

2013-11-16 Thread Jon Perryman
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/CN7P4000/CCONTENTS?DT=19920626112004 From: MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net I am trying to use 3270 Datastream Attribute Bytes under TSO using TPUT could somebody point me to where these bytes

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Kenneth for the explanation. It's really good stuff. All the serialization that I've seen was prior to the PLO instruction. I now see that it has certainly improved our ability to serialize.  Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-12 Thread Jon Perryman
The example was simply to show a point without using an involved sample. At a minimum, I should have included a USING for the queue entry. Sorry for the confusion. Jon Perryman. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In 1384218943.19861

Re: APF in JCL step

2013-11-11 Thread Jon Perryman
complicated but often doable).  In Pauls case, you need to ask why he can't use the standard methods and must find a way around the controls that the company obviously decided to implement. Doesn't he have access to an APF library? Doesn't he have access to SYS1.PARMLIB?   Any time  Jon Perryman

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-11 Thread Jon Perryman
complex the process can be. You need to think about the small details. Even the support staff is considered a risk because they may not fully understand the serialization requirements you implement. Jon Perryman. From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com Can

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-11 Thread Jon Perryman
because it could be a significant amount of storage.  Thanks, Jon Perryman. From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 7:07 PM Subject: Re: Serialization without Enque On 11 November 2013 20:15, Jon Perryman

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-10 Thread Jon Perryman
uses the DEVTYPE macro which is not suitable for UNIX files. Jon Perryman. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In 1383936555.77181.yahoomail...@web181006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com, on 11/08/2013   at 10:49 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net

Re: SNA vs TCP/IP (was: z/OS is antique ...)

2013-11-09 Thread Jon Perryman
The DARK SIDE was not in reference to TCP/IP. As far as TCP over SNA, we can easily list as negative TCP attributes (e.g. security and timeliness). Can you imagine what SNA would have been today had efforts remained with implementing the desirable TCP attributes into SNA.  Jon Perryman

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Perryman
is storage overlays that are not immediately apparent. Even worse is when they affect unrelated programs. Jon Perryman.    From: Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com Thank You for your help (all of you) but Peter's statement below does not make sense to me (maybe

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Perryman
Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, November 8, 2013 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:36:30 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote: As for concatenating an MVS dataset before

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Perryman
does not get any CPU because of CPU load or swapped out address space in multi-address space serialization). Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com A storage overlay cannot occur in a properly implemented PLO with a counter as long

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Perryman
implementation Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com Yes, I was talking about all references using PLO. I was also assuming this was a work queue where deletion from the chain was the methodology for claiming ownership of the element

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-08 Thread Jon Perryman
but only lists a couple examples. UNIX support in these macro's has never been a priority for me.  Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Fri, 8 Nov 2013 10:49:15 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote: ... IBM modified IEBGENER (and other utilities

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-07 Thread Jon Perryman
step would be to locate the entry to be updated. If you  If you are deleting entries, you might need to use PLO compare and load  when scanning thru the chain. Is it more efficient to continue using CS / reverse chain or to use PLO to build the chain in the correct sequence? Jon Perryman

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread Jon Perryman
I don't see acronyms in different industries a problem. The ones that get me are within IBM's own website. I can't remember specific's. More than once, I read something that used a well known z/OS acronym. Very confusing until you realize it's the same acronym but from a different area.  Jon

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread Jon Perryman
or even relavent? Jon Perryman.  From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 16:51:03 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: What's a data set? Anything that can be allocated to a ddname. As I said, I have attempted to invoke that definition

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-07 Thread Jon Perryman
a dataset that supports RECFM, LRECL and BLKSIZE, AMATERSE now has information it needs. Secondary DD's are not scrutinized as much as the first dataset in a concatenation. Maybe GIMZIP (from SMP/E) or zip from the UNIX utilities page might help. Jon Perryman. From

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
if anything failed. (IEFACTRT). You may hate JCL but you probably love what it gives you. Jon Perryman. From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com On 6/11/2013 10:33 AM, Gerhard Postpischil wrote: On 11/5/2013 7:26 PM, David Crayford wrote: I don't think it's

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
the COPY or REPRO command. REPRO came out with VSAM so it could not use the command name COPY. Jon Perryman.  From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com And I find cp terribly confusing - to a neophyte does it stand for copy, or compare, or compress (as in disk

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
to support screen datasets. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com saw no advantage to it, and reverted.  Does it play well with ISPF? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
used to it but it's certainly not natural. I never understood why they did this but when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Placing JCL before or after the exec is a nit you easily get used to.  Jon Perryman.  From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
Sorry for the confusion. I was talking about TSO and IDCAMS REPRO. We have this same problem with acronyms now having multiple meaning. Jon Perryman. From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com The REPRO [assembler] instruction causes the data specified

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
to manually logging information, they are worlds apart. JCL has CC's for each step and if you implement CC display in the job log. Almost everyone has this installed. It's automatic and I can quickly find the steps that have non-0 CC without manually logging it. Jon Perryman

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
is the equivalent of running multiple TN3270 session. Think of it  Nothing more so it doesn't have anything to do with single user signon for TSO.  As far as TSO COPY, it is so heavily used that IBM could not withdraw it. I don't know if it's still priced. Jon Perryman

Re: JCL

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
He's talking about visual sequence  address TSO ALLOC DDN(XX) DSN('xxx') SHR address LINKMVS XXX versus  //STEP1 EXEC PGM=XXX //XX   DD DSN=XXX,DISP=SHR Jon Perryman. From: Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net Yeah, once you get past the backwards

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
It's been a long time but I though DFS had a server (SMB or NFS) that did exactly what you want.  I think this was one of the configuration I setup. I won't swear to it though. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com  I would make an addition

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
Sorry, I must have been thinking of a different product. Not sure which one. Jon Perryman. From: Bill Godfrey yak36...@yahoo.com In case this is causing confusion to some readers, the Session Manager that includes the SMCOPY command, which was mentioned

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
I've run the XTERM and EMACS clients a few years ago. It worked first time without a problem. I wish we had EMACS fully setup for z/OS. I use XEMACS on my PC which has similarities. Jon Perryman.  From: Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-06 Thread Jon Perryman
and saves time/money, then why not just use it. I would think you might as well use it. It's far less overhead than running an X-client on z/OS. Jon Perryman. From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 12:15:34 -0800, Jon Perryman wrote

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
performing the stores.  I think the window is so small that even under heavy usage, you would only see an error every couple of months but it does exist. I think TCB2 must also use the PLO compare and load to avoid this situation. Thanks for the great information, Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth

z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
if they weren't so restrictive. This dinosaur hasn't died yet and probably won't in the near future. Jon Perryman.  From: Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:01 AM Subject: Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
. E.g. standard security on z/OS is provided by a single programming interface regardless of the ESM you are using. Jon Perryman. From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za Could you be kind to list the differences between these systems

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
I meant to say when TCP/IP was publicly available. I think ARPANET was only available to the military. Jon Perryman. From: Anne Lynn Wheeler l...@garlic.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 2:14 PM Subject: Re: z/OS is antique

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
be improvements but that's true for anything. Jon Perryman. From: Mark Post mp...@suse.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, November 5, 2013 1:40 PM Subject: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers On 11/5/2013 at 02:49 PM, Jon Perryman

Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-11-05 Thread Jon Perryman
convinced many to use the VM editor but even by the time I left, there was still a few using that program.   Jon Perryman. From: David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com On 6/11/2013 12:37 AM, John Gilmore wrote: I do of course agree that z/OS is perceived

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Kenneth. Excellent example. I didn't consider that the load for the counter must be first to cause the serialization. Jon Perryman. From: Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com I have used PLO almost exclusively for serialization in multi-address

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
Thanks Binyamin. Also a great example but it brings me to another question. What is the advantage of using PLO compare and fetch? Is it just saving CPU time in the case where the counter has changed? Is there another advantage that I'm not thinking about? Jon Perryman

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
programming languages. Jon Perryman. From: John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com His riposte---It is not responsive---to my  last post employs a rhetorical device that was familiar to the Alexandrian Greeks

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
. In Kenneth's example where he uses PLO to save 64 bit addresses (which is 2 words), he can't use LG to reference the 64 bit address otherwise he risks using high and low register values that do not match. Is that correct? Jon Perryman. From: Binyamin Dissen

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-04 Thread Jon Perryman
] On Behalf Of Jon Perryman Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 2:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serialization without Enque Thanks for pointing out that it's required to do the PLO COMPARE against the counter and FETCH of the value otherwise there is no guarantee that value1 is consistent

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
of the authorized state. Something as simple as overlaying storage could create a security exposure and give them access to the authorized state.  Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com   SRB's are a big security exposure so customers are unlikely to open

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
. This is exactly where a hacker would want to be in order to hide their tracks and do devious things without getting caught. Jon Perryman. From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com SRB mode is only needed if you use IBM's supplied API to zIIP. WLM is the part of z/os

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
being consider SRB eligible. Some of that code run's under TCB's that never had authorization where end users could never abuse it will now be a potential exposure.  Proverbial saying: can't see the forest for the tree's. Jon Perryman From: John Gilmore jwgli

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
I think Itschak is saying that SRB's can't do I/O, therefore they can't write files to embed a virus or read confidential data. I think he's under the impression that SRB's can't get access to everything they desire. Jon Perryman.    From: Ed Jaffe edja

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
storage, there is not any method that will guarantee the 3 values are consistent with the others. A counter as suggested by Peter Relson won't help either for this same reason. I can't think of a situation where PLO CSDST is useful. Can anyone describe a situation where it is useful? Jon Perryman

aggressive drivers was: Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising application security

2013-11-03 Thread Jon Perryman
probably steal it. Jon Perryman. From: Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com At 21:16 + on 10/30/2013, DASDBILL2 wrote about Re: Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising applicati: At first, aggressive drivers drove faster than the posted speed limit

Re: Serialization without Enque

2013-11-02 Thread Jon Perryman
As a last resort, a GRS latch could be used. Jon Perryman. From: Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net On 1 November 2013 16:22, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: I have a situation where I need to serialize processing and cannot use CDS because

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
sign a non-disclosure agreement about this special enclave. I suspect that IBM includes some sort of usage clause in that agreement. Jon Perryman   From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com After reading this thread, I understand the need for zIIP processors

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
more expensive to run. If this overhead makes the software significantly more expensive, then vendors will allow both methods. For other vendors, this may be insignificant (e.g. using a single SRB for the life of the product may be possible which would eliminate a lot of the overhead). Jon

Re: ISPF statistics

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
as IEBGENER RECFM=U support. Jon Perryman. From: Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se -Original Message- Behalf Of nitz-...@gmx.net It's certainly possible to have DSORG=PS,RECFM=U data set that does not contain load modules.  I've used them.  I

Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
Since zVM supports zLinux, it makes sense that it allows IFL. Is there a userid option that allows the usage of IFL processors? Or do they use some other method? Does CMS also use that instruction to ensure it runs on a CP? Jon Perryman. From: Mark Post mp

Re: Security exposure of zXXP was Re: zIIP simulation

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
this, they are discouraged from allowing it because their employee's could easily write programs to access anything they wanted.   Jon Perryman. From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca 6. zIIP is first restricted by requiring programs run under an SRB. SRB's

Re: Allocation problem with LMCOPY

2013-11-01 Thread Jon Perryman
experienced avoid posting for fear of making a mistake. Thanks Shmuel doubt that I would make such a mistake. Jon Perryman..   From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In 5161261496916553.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 10/25/2013

Re: GDG question

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
it catalogs the new version instantaneously without interrupting current users. There's no need to rename the dataset. IBM could easily implement IDCAM's ALTER ALIAS to serve this purpose but GDG's have served us so well for so long that we don't really need to be a UNIX variant.   Jon

Re: GDG question

2013-10-26 Thread Jon Perryman
. As for other commands, you can run your own tests to find out how you can use them. Jon Perryman. - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 2:13 PM Subject: Re: GDG question On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:57:09

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