In short, giant LPARs can definitely be problematic. Similarly, too small LPARs
can be problematic. Somewhere in the middle is ideal, but where that is will
depend.
First off, the most significant impact is you don't want LPARs whose processor
count is so high that it crosses drawers. (In
.
IIRC, I was only looking at at CPU because I/O time can be significantly
variable depending on where we reading the data from. And doing less I/O is
obviously always better, and can significantly impact runtime in some cases. So
I/O time wasn't really a question in my mind.
Scott Chapman
increase in CPU would be
those that are completely idle and doing nothing but writing interval SMF
records to say they haven't processed any data.
Scott Chapman
On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:36:34 +1000, Andrew Rowley
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>On 17/04/2024 12:09 pm, Michael Oujesky wrote:
>> Yes and zEDC poorly c
LM section. The "Introdution to the WLM" presentation might be a good place to
start. "WLM’s Algorithms – How WLM Works" might be another good early one to
look at. It sounds like "Revisiting Goals over Time" might also be of interest.
:)
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t;that might be in the SMF type 7x records.
While I agree that the 7x records generally have nothing that should be
considered "sensitive", some organizations consider system names sensitive.
Seems overkill to me,
t set to that" makes much less sense to me.
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 17:35:56 -0800, Ed Jaffe
wrote:
>On 12/29/2023 3:20 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
>> This paper from Scott Chapman of EPS talks about the subject and he agrees
>> with
>> me that it should be no long
how interested people
are in general in EzNoSQL.
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 17:28:17 -0600, Peter Bishop wrote:
>Also, given it's just SMF data being used here, surely there's a way for z/OS
>to process that without VSAM RLS and EzNoSQL (?). Perhaps they are using
>&quo
ng on a GP. But it requires some effort to configure and
manage.
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On Mon, 20 Nov 2023 06:32:08 +, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>The z/OS AI Framework requires EzNoSQL, EzNoSQL requires VSAM Record-Level
>Sharing (RLS), and VSAM RLS requires a Coupling Facility (internal or
>external
was particularly problematic, but they're not the only ones that could benefit
from more than 6 CPs that could be finely adjusted in terms of capacity.
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On Wed, 6 Sep 2023 09:52:47 +, Martin Packer
wrote:
>I really hope you�re not advising customers to run the zIIP pool at 100%.
It's more complicated than that. Although I would agree that if an LPAR has
only a single zIIP, likely SMT would be a good idea. But B is not true for
intervals that people usually consider when looking at utilization levels
because at the level of dispatch intervals, it's much more likely
s have valid reasons to disable it.
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On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 13:35:11 +, kekronbekron
wrote:
>Hi Scott,
>
>Could you expand on this please.
>
>> But z/OS "densely packs" the cores, meaning that if a work unit is running
>> on a zIIP core an
r when we do the next upgrade". Which, to be fair, most customers are in that
situation: they don't do any real detailed planning for zIIP capacity.
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before you can switch back and forth by the setting in IEAOPTxx.
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Having looked at data from a whole lot of customer systems, I can say that
SMFID and SYSNAME are often (but not always) the same. LPARNAME is very often
different, although I appreciate it when there's at least some sort of visual
link between it and SMFID/SYSNAME. E.G. SYSA and C1SYSA vs SYSA
Ah, I missed that or forgot by the time I got to posting. I haven't tried it
myself, but have heard it is problematic to get the data back into a z/OS
dataset in a usable fashion.
On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 09:47:39 +1100, Andrew Rowley
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>The OP specified being able to reverse the process,
SITE EPSV4 can be important for getting
through some firewalls properly.)
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 12:27:56 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>From Barry Merrill :
>>...
>>But if the destination is for ASCII and SAS, you can use IEBGENER to create a
>>copy of
&g
Which may be part of the reason for releasing the smaller version* of a
particular generation some months after the larger version.
* - The models formerly known as "Business Class" that are now seeking a handy
name.
On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:07:14 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote:
>The big problem
ainframe costs until they've moved off really significant amounts of workload.
(Notice I didn't use the word "savings" in the previous sentence: whether the
mainframe is cheaper or more expensive than the environment they're moving too
is a yet deep
underperform.
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2026" and Java 11 until "at least
October 2024". So given that 17 is potentially coming available in September,
and given that I think the migration from 11 to 17 will likely be easier than 8
to 9+, I wouldn't be surprised if they just
want to play with z/OS for a few hours, stand up a z/OS image with x CPU
and y GB of disk and put it on my credit card".
*-Remember: in the cloud, you pay for what you forgot to turn off. And those
pennies can add up shockingly fast in some cases!
Sco
Absolute CP capping caps the LPAR at the specified number of CP's worth of
capacity. It avoids the issues with initial capping (by weight) in which LPAR
A's available capacity can change when LPAR B or C is activated or deactivated
if LPAR A's weight isn't readjusted too.
that SC has a resource group
that limits how much CPU the work can consume.
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Alas no, but there's a number of products out there that will read said
records, including our own. ;) Pivotor does have a free tier, but it's not open
source.
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how the work
overall is performing and monitor for the work degrading over time.
Monitoring the delay samples over time is one of the things I highly recommend,
especially in the situations where you're always running at 100% busy or always
running at cap or something like that.
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where that's impractical, MT=2 might be useful.
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Edge is based on the open source version of Chrome under the covers. Some have
suggested it would be better to have more diversity in the underlying browser
technology, but Chromium generally is pretty good.
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 10:46:13 -0400, Gord Tomlin
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>On 2020-06
. Especially if they're
performance advice.
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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 07:00:19 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>I must have time on my hands. I just dragged out the OS/390 V2R8 CDs from
>1999, and the sentence is there verbatim.
>
>It's the only hit on GRXBIMG on CD #1
nments.
But I would be surprised to find a case where COBOL isn't the most memory
efficient.
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l see potentially significant
variations between runs of the same exact job. That's why I always want to see
multiple re-runs so I can understand the "normal" variation. (But one still
needs to take into account the current system activity: "normal" variation will
itse
fer more
significantly from expectation if you're just using one of the single-number
metrics without regard to the RNI of the work and the LPAR configuration
(factors that zPCR takes into account).
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:55:54 -0500, Phil Smith III wrote:
>I don'
changed gets more interesting.
If your performance reporting tool makes that onerous, remember that we
(Enterprise Performance Strategies) do offer free cursory performance reviews
and our performance reporting service does have a free tier as well. Contact me
off-list if you're interested.
ory were more likely to have paging space >=
real storage. But even there, we've seen >1TB LPARs with with only a few
hundred GB of paging space, including SCM.
Of course it is also fairly common for those large memory systems to be running
with large amounts of that memory being available
should be a
fine enough idea. But I'd check things closely the first few times at least.
And I'd trust it more if it seemed to be valid XML. But at least from what I've
seen by the time it gets downloaded, it's not quite
ite from
DDs instead of file system files. I did so at my past job, but alas the source
for that was left with the previous employer.
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On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 13:34:09 -0500, Horst Sinram wrote:
>The OP's question was about DB2 workloads. Resource group capping for DB2
>workloads would be pretty risky unless you could really guarantee that you do
>not share resources with your production work.
>
Although I haven't counted them
>How about submitting a requirement to IBM that would add a control to WLM
>This control would re-classify a ZIIP eligible workload to a different
>service class if it spills over to a GCP because you are running your ZIIPS
>hot (or hit the "generosity factor" for DB2 work). This service class
True, relative to the zIIP workload. But if that zIIP workload is relatively
low importance and crossing over to the GCPs and raising your R4HA, it may make
sense to restrict the low importance work instead of increasing the R4HA,
depending on what your business requirements are. And keeping
n 10% busy in the
customers I sampled though, which matches my historical understanding that most
customers don't have an issue with SAP capacity.
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https://www.pivotor.com and click on the "Free!" button then find and click
through to our presentations. You probably can find it on a number of the
conference web sites as I've presented it at the major conferences as well.
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will be most performant.
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Note that my reluctance applies specifically to single-CP machines. If I had
even two CPs, then I'd be much more willing to give it a shot, depending on
current utilization levels and so forth. With dyndisp=thin of course.
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On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 00:10:26 -0600, Brian Westerman
Yup.. should be SMF30PF1 that "1" and "I" look pretty close at the font size I
had up.
Scott
On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 07:16:03 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
>Sorry, but is it not SMF30PF1 (number one instead of letter i)?
--
SMF30PFI includes flags indicating that the service class was changed either
during or before execution.
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 17:59:19 +, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh
wrote:
>Hello list,
>
>Apart from 99.2, can I find info on serv
be leading to WLM not being able to effectively manage certain service
classes.
Note again: this is something I'm still researching and I hope/expect to
present on the topic at the next SHARE.
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 04:52:01 +, Sankaranarayanan
for reporting on those.
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cant as GCP capacity, so err on the side of having too much zIIP
capacity. That would be an interesting study: what's common ratio of zIIP
capacity to GCP capacity? I suspect that that ratio has been creeping up over
the years.
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, primarily (I believe) due to I/O being slower.
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:13:38 +0800, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>I've yet to see a Java workload run faster on z/OS then on x86. And our
>x86 servers are heavily virtualized using Hyper-V. Our zIIP ru
The default encoding on z/OS occasionally causes problems. Particularly when
doing network I/O. Adding option "-Dfile.encoding=ISO8859-1" in my experience
takes care of those issues. Of course you have to deal with ASCII files then,
but that's a minor issue.
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On Thu, 2
You could also use the external Rhino Jars
if you needed a version later than the embedded Rhino version.
I remember being surprised several years ago at how well JavaScript (using
Rhino) ran on z/OS.
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 14:16:18 +0800, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com
tuning zFS performance, but I personally haven't spent any time yet
investigating them.
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On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 16:17:47 +, Allan Staller <allan.stal...@hcl.com> wrote:
>Not sure about SMF92, but SMF99 are "WLM decision records".
>
>Yes they are l
ing" AWS issues/limitations. It's
been an "interesting" week.
Hopefully this all will be less painful on z/OS.
Scott Chapman
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 15:26:04 -0600, Tom Marchant <m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 21:44:29 +0100, R.S. wrote:
>
>&g
of that might be.
Obviously I might be slightly (although I hope not much) biased at this point,
but I think the points are worth consideration.
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On Wed, 29 Nov 2017 21:16:00 +1100, Andrew Rowley
<and...@blackhillsoftware.com> wrote:
>On 29/11/2017 11:5
option.
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 09:04:40 +, Martin Packer <martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com>
wrote:
>When you say "planning to" I hope you really mean "beginning to consider".
>There are just so many ways this could turn out to be a ba
k.java.net/jeps/254
The G1 garbage collector (which I believe will be the new default) will also
get string deduplication:
http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/192
Since those are internal JVM things, if those make will it into the IBM JVM I
of course don't know.
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:27:52 +0100, David W Noon
wrote:
>> the keys. Yes, I know, if this sort of thing is a requirement, we need Db2
>> (or is it DB2), but that is _never_ going to happen around here.
>
>It is DB2. But that isn't really necessary.
Except they
n other
platforms. Which also have way more mind share among the smaller/startup
organizations.
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the AVGREC allocation method 20+ years ago I probably
knew the answer to your questions at one time, but the only one I remember for
sure is that it works fine with SMS.
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regardless of which SG they're in. But I could be wrong about that.
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time that the change is made. "
See PDF page 93, indicated page 75 in:
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> I would point out that the cost to provide z/OS services, or any computing
> services for that matter, is greater than zero, especially but not only for
> "real production business work." If you'd like to suggest that any company
> price its set of products and associated services below cost,
I don't see anything there that says one can do real production business work
using z/OS, starting at $0. Or $500. Or really any amount.
Would be happy to be shown otherwise.
On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 13:37:37 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>Charles Mills asks:
>>Is there any
On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 13:54:27 -0500, Steve wrote:
>If you look at the sheer cost if setting up a zOS ecosystem, its not cheap.
Yeah, that's the key point not mentioned in the article: building your system
on AWS starts at $0. However... AWS costs can add up too. Most of
Since Alexa is mentioned...
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These sound promising...
SMF71C1A "Average total number of high virtual common memory pages (in units of
4 KB)."
SMF71CPA "Average number of high virtual common pages in-use"
The latter is apparently new in z/OS 2.2.
Min and max fields available too.
Scott
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 11:31:03
Their purchase of EMC just closed, so I guess Dell now also makes mainframe
disk subsystems. Will be interesting to see what they do with that.
Scott
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:57:22 +0100, Vince Coen wrote:
>Quest.
>
>Seem to recall some other m/f products as well. Toad ?
>
You can't really bypass the system exits, but that doesn't mean that the exits
might not include certain "secret" triggers that might allow you to specify a
higher time value on the job card. E.G. if the job is in this class and it's
this time of day and this job name, then allow/set something
Nice. I had thought there was a physical dongle involved. The lack of such
certainly makes things much easier.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2016 10:55:28 -0400, Scott Ford <idfzos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>zPDT versions
>
>On Sunday, September 11, 2016, Scott Chapman <scott.chap...@epstra
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:12:37 -0400, Scott Ford wrote:
>We have multiple z/OS images running in AWS ( Amazon ) and I have a
Sorrry, I just have to ask: how do you have z/OS running in AWS??
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>Is anybody outside of IBMs customers still using Eclipse? I was under
>the impression that IntelliJ was the dominant force
>in the fat IDE space now. And you get the same editor and user
>experience no matter what
it documented.
It may be also possible to automate driving the ISPF application.
Note that I haven't personally tried any of these.
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Yes, resource groups might be able to help if you don't want to lower the DC
itself. But it's very dependent on the situation. My impression from your
discussion is that addressing the scheduling issues may be the best first step
though.
Remember that it's an average over 4 hours. So if you're
In addition to the other reasons cited, one of my arguments was that I wasn't
100.00% sure that the app team hasn't squirreled something away in a
non-production storage group that really was needed for either running or
fixing or recovering production. And the chance for human error sneaking
On Sat, 7 May 2016 11:25:40 -0400, Phil Smith III wrote:
>P.S. Scott, the same command still failed after -help was working. Do you
>know what's wrong with it? Would love to grok this in fullness (well, "more
>completely" -- I know I'll never grok in fullness!)
If my google-fu is good, max heap size default on z/OS for IBM Java 5 was 64M
and on Java 6 it was increased to "half of real storage with a maximum of
512M". Min size also increased from 1M to 4M.
Just to make sure that it's the heap size change between 5 and 6, did you try
"javac -J-Xmx64M
The Technical Guide Redbooks for the relevant processor typically has this.
Might be in the planning guide too. Looks like minimum granularity for the z13
is 512MB.
Scott
On Thu, 5 May 2016 22:52:19 -0400, phil yogendran wrote:
>Thanks but where is that documented? How
>If your batch jobs are running Dicretionary at a DP lower than CICS, it is
>very
>unlikely that they are causing significant CICS delays.
True from a CPU perspective. But the batch jobs could be locking resources in
DB2 that are delaying the CICS transactions. And if the batch jobs holding
. If the current slice is a
cap slice, the work unit is moved to the back of the queue (subject to priority
order).
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>Scott Chapman wrote:
>>Software billing is based on available/consumed capacity.
>
>IBM's is/are not. It's based on *peak* four hour rolling average
>utilization per month -- or, effectively, per subscription year for
>products that are not Monthly License Charge products.
P
I believe that while chargeback is an important issue that SMT messes up,
that's already somewhat messed up today because there's more variance from
execution to execution. I.E. run the same exact job twice and even absent SMT
you'll get different CPU measurements. That's always been the case,
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 18:16:53 +1100, Andrew Rowley
wrote:
>Memory leaks are not a usual case, but I would suggest you will still
>want to garbage collect.
>
>I'm not arguing against large memory - I am all in favour of as much as
>you can afford. It's just the
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:56:17 +, Martin Packer
wrote:
>And if you think that's bad try making your favourite slide or email
>editor keep the "z" lower case. Permanent nightmare. :-)
Amen. But the Ctrl-z every time after you type it reinforces what platform
you're
On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 16:02:52 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>I doubt that there is a significant difference in CPU resources between
>running the JVM in JZOS vs BPXBATC**.
I was surprised too.
>Perhaps the differences that you are seeing have to do with not measuring
>all of the
d tasks too, which was unexpected. It was in the single
digit percentage range, but it was consistent across multiple different
workloads. I never did get that difference understood to my satisfaction.
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The RMF Distributed Data Portal emits XML. So you can write your own app to
issue requests to it and interpret the results--perhaps building friendlier
html pages from a subset of values that are of interest to the target audience.
You could either do that all in the browser (relatively easy)
read from the zFS needs
to be in ASCII, but that's usually not too big of a deal--ISPF can edit ASCII
ok, you just need to tell it that it's ASCII. (Although at the moment I can't
remember exactly where/how that's done.)
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 01:46:04 -0600, Munif Sadek <munif.sa
As others have said, there are multiple ways to go look at what was using the
CPU during a particular interval, depending on what tools you have access to
and what the system configuration is. To recap:
SMF 30 interval (subtype 2 & 3) records will show CPU utilization by interval
by address
That is a very important point. I have been involved in more than one upgrade
(or lack thereof) where we chose a less than technically ideal configuration
because the MSU/MIPS of said configuration were somehow more favorable.
Once though, the optimal technical and software cost solutions did
I believe the DB2 Unload utility will also allow you to create an extract in a
delimited form. Seems like there were some idiosyncrasies with it, but I don't
recall the details at the moment. But you might start here:
On Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:24:01 +, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
wrote:
Check out the GPMSERVE function of RMF (no additional $$$)
I did exactly that at AEP, merging the data from multiple sysplexes into a
single one pane of glass view. Everything passed between the LPARs/sysplexes
On Fri, 16 Jan 2015 19:27:50 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
Kees Vernooij wrote:
It again looks like small customers are becoming less and less
interesting for IBM.
Your guess is 180 degrees wrong.
I hope you're right. I believe there's a good number of sub-100 MSU customers
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 14:40:19 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de
wrote:
for batch programs, a table space scan on large tables may well be
the best access strategy, if the related SQL is the overall cursor
controlling
the batch program, and if large portions of the table is used. So
On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 01:44:35 +0100, Bernd Oppolzer bernd.oppol...@t-online.de
wrote:
It is normal practice at the shops I work to do EXPLAIN regularly on all
programs that go into production and to store the PLAN TABLE results
for later trouble shooting ... if there is trouble. The developers at
On Fri, 9 Jan 2015 09:58:03 -0500, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
I'm one of those types.
The governor pretty well guarantees a re-submission.
Which means twice the resources (or more) spent to do nothing!
How can they debug/tune something if we don't let complete?
That does seem to be a
On Thu, 8 Jan 2015 14:38:40 +, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com
wrote:
Here your multitenancy concerns seem to be at the DB2 subsystem level. I
don't think many would advocate sharing a DB2 subsystem between Prod and
Test.
Nor would I, but it happens. Especially for off-platform
) assigned capacity. That's where
the resource group may be useful.
Scott Chapman
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 23:40:18 -0500, Linda Hagedorn linda.haged...@gmail.com
wrote:
The bad SQL is usually tablespace scans, and/or Cartesian product. They are
relatively easy to identify and cancel.
MVS
On Fri, 28 Nov 2014 16:14:03 +0800, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
Setting aside current pricing, what are the characteristics of hard disks
that make them better suited to particular use cases than (modern, current)
SSD?
You make a fair point that if pricing is not an object, then
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