Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

See here for Microsoft's Web browser support policy: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/gp/microsoft-internet-explorer/en-us On very specific Microsoft operating systems that are still supported (still within their Extended Support periods), Microsoft is still providing security patches for old

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/arcaos-screenshots/ Firefox 38.8ESR in distribution, 45.5ESR available soon. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 7:42 PM, David Crayford wrote: >> On 15 Jun 2017, at 8:22 am, Mike Schwab wrote: >> >>

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

> On 15 Jun 2017, at 8:22 am, Mike Schwab wrote: > > https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos-5-0-now-available/ > OS2 Warp for 2017, still 32 bit, updated drivers for newer hardware. > Includes Win 3.1 compatibility. > What browser runs on OS/2? >> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos-5-0-now-available/ OS2 Warp for 2017, still 32 bit, updated drivers for newer hardware. Includes Win 3.1 compatibility. On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 8:14 AM, David Crayford wrote: > On 14/06/2017 5:54 PM, R.S. wrote: >> >> W dniu 2017-06-14 o

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

).. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 14 June 2017 04:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips

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On 14/06/2017 5:54 PM, R.S. wrote: W dniu 2017-06-14 o 10:21, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) pisze: Classification: Public I would hazard a guess that the answer to that is the same answer as to why Windows XP (and probably NT!) is still in use! Not to mention anyone running

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

W dniu 2017-06-14 o 10:21, Styles, Andy (ITS zPlatform Services) pisze: Classification: Public I would hazard a guess that the answer to that is the same answer as to why Windows XP (and probably NT!) is still in use! Not to mention anyone running out-of-support mainframe software (and

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Crayford Sent: 14 June 2017 04:47 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via a

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 11/06/2017 7:15 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 6/6/2017 8:54 PM, David Crayford wrote: On 7/06/2017 1:43 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: We test (E)JES Web with current releases of Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, and IE. We also test with IE8 because it's a different animal and requires special code to make

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6/6/2017 8:54 PM, David Crayford wrote: On 7/06/2017 1:43 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: We test (E)JES Web with current releases of Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, and IE. We also test with IE8 because it's a different animal and requires special code to make things work right... Do you have a

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

>I opened a hardware issue for this same reason and hardware support reported >that MCL patches needed to be applied to the HMC. Those patches were recently >put on but I haven't had a chance to be at the HMC during a sandbox IPL to >verify if it is fixed. When I first detected this last

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6/7/2017 1:57 PM, Art Gutowski wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:49:47 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: On 6/6/2017 10:45 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote: Classification: Public It varies between browsers, I believe. Chrome 55.0.2883.87 seems to play nicely

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:49:47 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >On 6/6/2017 10:45 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote: >> Classification: Public >> It varies between browsers, I believe. >> >> Chrome 55.0.2883.87 seems to play nicely - perhaps nicer - but IE >>

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Barbara, I opened a hardware issue for this same reason and hardware support reported that MCL patches needed to be applied to the HMC. Those patches were recently put on but I haven't had a chance to be at the HMC during a sandbox IPL to verify if it is fixed. Kirk

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 7/06/2017 1:43 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 6/6/2017 10:04 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:44:28 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Is it not bizarre that in 2017 we are still dealing with systems that "don't work right" with one browser or another? I mean, seriously...

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Don't forget EPIC browser... On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 3:47 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > On 6/6/2017 10:43 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >> >> We test (E)JES Web with current releases of Chrome, Firefox, Opera, >> Safari, and IE. We also test with IE8 because it's a different animal

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There would be two places to point your finger: 1) HTML (etc) generators that don't serve standards-compliant HTML (etc). 2) Browsers that don't play nice with standards-compliant HTML (etc). I wonder which of these it is this time. (It could be both.) Cheers, Martin Sent from my iPad > On

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: > The HMC architect was not aware of this; he'd be thankful if someone > op

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6/6/2017 10:43 AM, Ed Jaffe wrote: We test (E)JES Web with current releases of Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, and IE. We also test with IE8 because it's a different animal and requires special code to make things work right... Oops. Forgot we added Edge to our test suite last year. So,

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6/6/2017 10:04 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:44:28 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: Is it not bizarre that in 2017 we are still dealing with systems that "don't work right" with one browser or another? I mean, seriously... I agree 100%.But I also find it

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

10:42 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: > The HMC architect was not aware of this; he'd be thankful if someone > opened a problem (PMH) for it. > > John, It's ki

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:04:21 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:44:28 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >I agree 100%.But I also find it bizarre that developers don't test with >both of what I at least consider to be the 2 major players. ... > Chrome, Firefox,

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On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:49:47 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: > >> It varies between browsers, I believe. >> Chrome 55.0.2883.87 seems to play nicely - perhaps nicer - but IE >> 11.0.9600.18665 is definitely not happy. > >Thanks for this, it 'splains a lot. I'm using that level of IE, but I >can't use

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On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 12:44:28 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: >On 6 June 2017 at 12:23, Mark Zelden wrote: >> Before I started my reply I intended to write that I was using Firefox, but >> forgot >> to mention it. I've been using FF for HMC access since zEC12 (I

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 2017-06-06 12:44, Tony Harminc wrote: Is it not bizarre that in 2017 we are still dealing with systems that "don't work right" with one browser or another? I mean, seriously... Tony H. And funny how often the browser that won't display a site correctly comes from Redmond. It's unfortunate

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6 June 2017 at 12:23, Mark Zelden wrote: > Before I started my reply I intended to write that I was using Firefox, but > forgot > to mention it. I've been using FF for HMC access since zEC12 (I forgot what > HMC version - 2.12 perhaps) because the IE on my work laptop

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:49:51 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 10:42:25 -0400, Tom Conley >wrote: > >>On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: >>> The HMC architect was not aware of this; he'd be thankful if someone >>> opened a problem

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o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: 06 June 2017 15:50 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On 6/6/2017 10:45 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPla

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: 06 June 2017 15:50 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On 6/6/2017 10:45 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote: > C

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

2017 9:50:42 AM Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy On my Z13s Hardware Management Console (Version 2.13.1) I.E. 11.0.09 the console messages seem to pop up, mouse moment over the console area highlights different parts of the console, I.E, I enter D A,L

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

- From: "Tom Conley" <pinnc...@rochester.rr.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 9:42:25 AM Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: > The HMC architect was not aware of this

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

On 6/6/2017 10:45 AM, Styles, Andy , ITS zPlatform Services wrote: Classification: Public It varies between browsers, I believe. Chrome 55.0.2883.87 seems to play nicely - perhaps nicer - but IE 11.0.9600.18665 is definitely not happy. Andy Styles z/Series Systems Programmer Andy, Thanks

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Conley Sent: 06 June 2017 15:42 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via an external source -- On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: > The

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On 6/6/2017 8:48 AM, John Eells wrote: The HMC architect was not aware of this; he'd be thankful if someone opened a problem (PMH) for it. John, It's kinda hard to miss. Our hardware guy is out for a few days, so I'll get a hardware PMR to you early next week. We're on an EC12. Let me

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A.EDU Subject: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy I'm trying to use the new Java-less Operating System Messages console on the HMC. My version is Blippy McBlipperson, which makes it extremely difficult to use, because you can't watch it. As new messages are sent to

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

are enabled... -- Andy Styles Original Message From: Barbara Nitz Sent: Tuesday, 6 June 2017 07:43 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy -- This email has reached the Bank via a

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>I'm trying to use the new Java-less Operating System Messages console on >the HMC. My version is Blippy McBlipperson, which makes it extremely >difficult to use, because you can't watch it. As new messages are sent >to the console, the display collapses and expands at least 10x/sec. >Anybody

Re: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

me Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> on behalf of Pinnacle <pinnc...@rochester.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:24:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: "New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy I'm trying to use the new Java-less Operating

"New" Java-less Operating System Messages blips like crazy

I'm trying to use the new Java-less Operating System Messages console on the HMC. My version is Blippy McBlipperson, which makes it extremely difficult to use, because you can't watch it. As new messages are sent to the console, the display collapses and expands at least 10x/sec. Anybody