Hi Tony,
I meant that the (DEFINE) SPACE would be similar to a PDS and the
SUBALLOCATED Clusters would be similar to members
in that PDS (SPACE).
Regards,
David
On 2024-05-24 14:26, Tony Harminc wrote:
On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 11:31, David Spiegel <
0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.e
On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 11:31, David Spiegel <
0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hi Rex,
> VVDSs came with ICF. Before that, VSAM Clusters were ALLOCATED as either
> SUBALLOCATION or UNIQUE.
> SUBALLOCATION meant that the user ALLOCATED a "cloud" (i.e. DEFINE
> SPACE) to hold
ehalf Of
David Spiegel
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:33 AM
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Hi Rex,
You said: "...I never worked with either CVOLs or VSAM catalogs ..." If I may take the
Bible out of context, please see: DE 32:7 זְקֵנֶ֖יךָ וְיֹ֥אמְר
33 AM
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Hi Rex,
You said: "...I never worked with either CVOLs or VSAM catalogs ..." If I may
take the Bible out of context, please see: DE 32:7 זְקֵנֶ֖יךָ וְיֹ֥אמְרוּ לָֽךְ
"... Remember the days of old, C
: Friday, May 24, 2024 10:44 AM
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VVDS came with DFDS. ICF and קריעת תחת came with DF/EF. Things got better with
DFP and DFSMS.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
עַם יִשְׂרָאֵל חַי
נֵ֣צַח יִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל
Pommier, Rex
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 10:12 AM
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Hi David,
This is the part I was commenting on. " Then came VSAM (and VVDS?) and VSAM
Catalogs,...". I took that comment as being Dave guessing that po
y 24, 2024 8:55 AM
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Hi Rex,
"...Followed by SMS and VVDS for non-VSAM datasets ..."
This was meant (AFAIK) to state that VVDS for Non-VSAMs came into use with
SMS-Controlled DASD Volumes.
It is also true that VVDSs were
orked with either CVOLs or VSAM
catalogs but I was pretty sure the VVDS came along with the ICF.
Rex
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