Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product
Supervisor?
This was a common condition inserted by publishers of lots of books on a
monthly
basis and sale or return with the previous months books being removed from the
shelves. Rather than requiring the store
: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product
Supervisor?
God I love it, need a sense of humor
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
On 6 Aug 2012 15:20:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote
In 0f38850c-ff90-42cc-8897-b4fa59db3...@yahoo.com, on 08/06/2012
at 09:52 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
God I love it, need a sense of humor
You would have liked Rannie; he had a marvelous sense of humor.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
Atid/2
Too many yutz's in the world
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 7, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net
wrote:
In 0f38850c-ff90-42cc-8897-b4fa59db3...@yahoo.com, on 08/06/2012
at 09:52 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
God I love it, need a
In
canij+dcwo4xfsx0itfnd-org9gkoh819gfwkwudic5greqx...@mail.gmail.com,
on 08/03/2012
at 08:09 PM, William Donzelli wdonze...@gmail.com said:
Yes, we would love to have the scans - it is just a matter of
logistics. If you are willing to flat out donate them to be scanned
and archived, then
, August 05, 2012 8:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product
Supervisor?
So what's a wooden paddle ?
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40 or so years ago, IBM certified OS/MVT as functionally
complete (or stable?) and stopped
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 10:45 -0400, Bill Fairchild wrote:
[NIU's] Dr. Robert Rannie, who would carry a large wooden canoe paddle
on his shoulder throughout the SHARE week.
Thank you for reminding me of Rannie, a great educator, fomenter, Esprit
de Corps luminary... and Scoutmaster.
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program
product Supervisor?
.Copyright applies to any creative work (creative in a fairly broad
sense
of
the word).
The listing is undoubtedly licensed material of IBM, and would
undoubtedly be subject to copyright.
No one
Supervisor?
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[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last
VSE program product Supervisor?
Copyright protection does not preclude redistributing
Lending libraries don't violate copyright. They do not copy the materal.
They only lend it to somebody. Like you buying a book, reading it, then
giving it to a friend to read on the assumption that they will return it.
Or, like a 2nd hand book store, you can sell your purchansed copy to
another.
: Saturday, August 04, 2012 12:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product
Supervisor?
.Copyright applies to any creative work (creative in a fairly broad
sense
of
the word).
The listing is undoubtedly licensed material of IBM
Mayfield
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 11:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program
product Supervisor?
Books I've bought from the UK say this in the front. Seems a bit strict,
but is this the same thing?
This book is sold subject
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 14:30 -0400, Lindy Mayfield wrote:
Books I've bought from the UK say this in the front. Seems a bit strict, but
is this the same thing?
This book is sold subject to the condition that it shall not, by way of
trade or
otherwise, be lent, re-sold, hired out or otherwise
On 5 Aug 2012 18:20:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
So what's a wooden paddle ?
The OS/MVT project had as its symbol an oar or paddle because by the
time I joined the project IBM had dropped support (or was going to).
Thus we had to paddle our own canoe or we were up the creek
On Mon, 2012-08-06 at 15:02 -0400, Clark Morris wrote:
I just googled wooden paddle MVT and got one place where you can get a
machine readable copy, http://www.cbttape.org/mvtturnkey.htm along
with all of MVT and Hercules. Thanks Sam Golob, Sam Knutson, Jay
Maynard and many others.
Have to
This was a common condition inserted by publishers of lots of books on a
monthly basis and sale or return with the previous months books being
removed from the shelves. Rather than requiring the store to return the
whole book back to the publisher they required the store totear the
front cover
In 45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf17f93...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com,
on 08/06/2012
at 06:30 PM, Lindy Mayfield lindy.mayfi...@sas.com said:
Books I've bought from the UK say this in the front. Seems a bit
strict, but is this the same thing?
This book is sold subject to the condition that it
On 6 Aug 2012 15:20:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In a1ff1e2a-3a73-4c0f-8a06-a562b18ae...@yahoo.com, on 08/05/2012
at 09:10 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com said:
So what's a wooden paddle ?
I don't know about wooden paddles in general, but a canoe paddle was
the emblem
God I love it, need a sense of humor
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 6, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
On 6 Aug 2012 15:20:02 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In a1ff1e2a-3a73-4c0f-8a06-a562b18ae...@yahoo.com, on 08/05/2012
at 09:10 PM,
Gerhard:
I know this is not current and it may be applicable to this.
30 or so years ago IBM brought out a new COBOL compiler and of course
along with it came a manual for it.
Everyone wanted a copy and my management didn't want to buy 200+ copies.
We had to get special permission from IBM to
I may still have a copy of the Wooden Paddle. I also have various
old 1401 IBM 705 Autocoder and Honywell 800 manuals among others.
When I pass on can I just tell my heirs and assigns to just pack them
all up and send them to the Computer History Museum?
I think CHM has some sort of official
So what's a wooden paddle ?
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Aug 3, 2012, at 4:57 PM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
On 3 Aug 2012 11:51:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Pehaps he could send it to the Computer History Museum, on the
condition that it not be
Of Timothy Sipples
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2012 11:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program
product Supervisor?
Lizette Koehler passes along an offer from Steve Donato:
This was from when IBM use to distribute VSE supervisor
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program
product Supervisor?
I would not assume that a license holder has
, August 03, 2012 10:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program product
Supervisor?
There is a copyright doctrine called first sale that basically says that when
you buy a legal copy of something you can re-sell it as you wish. I would
on DesertWiz
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [z390] Anyone want Source code listing of last VSE program
product Supervisor?
I would not assume that a license holder has the ability to transfer his
license on his own.
You should check with the vendor
Pehaps he could send it to the Computer History Museum, on the
condition that it not be used until the copyrights expire?
As one of Al Kossow's little minions, I say yes, please.
CHM works with IBM and the other computer companies, and they do get
commercial software out into the public,
Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't a licensed and copyrighted program
a
licensed and copyrighted program -- either in part or as a whole? If I
print that licensed program on paper, does it stop being a licensed
program?
It seems that that would be covered by a non-disclosure agreement.
Is CHM willing to scan donations for bittsavers? I've got hundreds of
manuals that I'm willing to donate if someone will, pick them up, scan
them and do the OCR.
CHM and bitsavers are sort of joined at the hip. Al Kossow's hip, specifically.
Yes, we would love to have the scans - it is just a
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