Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Cheryl Watson
0 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB IMHO there should be a Health Check for whole parmlib, that means all members from Tuning Ref. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-08-24 o 15:11, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Charles Mills wrote: Plus, are there not third-party PARMLIB syntax checkers which would have been broken by the change? There are some syntax checkers from IBM, but only for *certain* parmlib members: CEEPRMxx, LOADxx and GRSRNLXX

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
in SYS1.PARMLIB Charles Mills wrote: >Plus, are there not third-party PARMLIB syntax checkers which would have been >broken by the change? There are some syntax checkers from IBM, but only for *certain* parmlib members: CEEPRMxx, LOADxx and GRSRNLXX checked by 'Parmlib Processin

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: >Plus, are there not third-party PARMLIB syntax checkers which would have been >broken by the change? There are some syntax checkers from IBM, but only for *certain* parmlib members: CEEPRMxx, LOADxx and GRSRNLXX checked by 'Parmlib Processing tool' and 'Symbolic Parmlib

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Charles Mills
falls way short of perfect. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Cheryl: > On Aug 23, 201

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Peter Relson
>This was one of our big SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. >You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If >you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. I would not have said that the thrust was necessarily about "any...me

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
Cheryl: > On Aug 23, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Cheryl Watson wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think > of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction > of staff is hurting the mainframe,

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Charles Mills
: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi Ed, Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction of staff is hurting the mainframe, but the fact is that they are doing it despite anything I might

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
== > > I hope this help, > Cheryl > > Cheryl Watson > Watson & Walker, Inc. > www.watsonwalker.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Feller, Paul > Sent: Tuesday, August 23

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
x, and IVTPRM00 don't allow any comments. > > RECOMMENDATION: Apply the PTF and start adding comments to these > long-neglected parmlib members. > = > > I hope this help, > Cheryl > > Cheryl Watson > Watson & Walker,

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread J R
Use the REXX approach. Start with a comment that signals that the new standard syntax is being used. /* CARDINAL SYNTAX */ Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2016, at 12:08, Mike Schwab wrote: > > But how would you switch over to the new syntax? > > On Tue, Aug 23,

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 8:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more productively spent in making the syntax uniform? Use Utilities commands as a model. Not according to IBM. It was this or nothing. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/23/2016 11:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init & Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed in each member. Wouldn't that resource

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Schwab
But how would you switch over to the new syntax? On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: >> >>It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 7:01 AM, Tom Conley wrote: This was one of our big SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. What he said! Also, if your company is a SHARE

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: > >It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init >& Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed >in each member. > Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB THANK YOU - this is great information. -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
inal Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi all, Most of the problems have been in the older members, but it's

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
half Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Richards, Robert B. wrote: >This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did >not yield the results I was looking for. >Do all me

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cheryl Watson wrote: >I just LOVE this APAR! No comments... ;-) Sorry, Cheryl, but I really *love* your post. Please continue with your nice posts. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
gust 23, 2016 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB I thought there was a push by IBM to allow comments in all members. I thought the last few members that could not have comments now allow comments. As an example I know the COMMNDxx member did not allow

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
t 23, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB I am sure there was / is.. but apparently standards are inconsistent other than what is documented member by member. Rob Schramm On Tue, Aug 23, 2016, 9:43 AM Feller, Paul <paul.fel...@transamerica.com

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Rob Schramm
> AGT Mainframe Technical Support > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 08:26 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.P

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Feller, Paul
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: 23 August, 2016 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Sadly no -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote: >This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did >not yield the results I was looking for. >Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? No. There is only one standard with this name: 'NO STANDARDS' ;-) IEASYSxx has

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: 23 August, 2016 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Sadly no -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
rame Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the resul

Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the results I was looking for. Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? z/OS' 2.1 and 2.2 installed. Bob -- For