From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
Date: 01/31/2013 11:17 AM
On 1/31/2013 8:40 AM, Don Williams wrote:
Does this mean a M/F developer needs to have deep pockets to be
successful?
Depends on your definition of deep. Last I checked it was $500/month for
fully-supported remote
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Subject: Re: FW: mainframe selling points -- Start up Costs
From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com
Date: 01/31
I would like to return to the selling point issue. I stated that there
are many technologies that run better outside the mainframe like Cobol and
sort. Don't take my word, ask Gartner's Dale Vecchio. have a look at this
video on http://www.platformmodernization.org/Pages/about.asp
Itschak
On
Gartner ?? they are and have been against M/F since the mid 80's...Even
back then saying it was dead
From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date: 01/31/2013 02:25 PM
Subject:Re: FW: mainframe selling points -- Start up Costs
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On 1/31/2013 9:37 AM, Steve Thompson wrote:
One programmer, who has roughed out a system, using VSAM or DB2, has, for
the sake of argument, 2-3 man years of coding to do with debugging. So we
will say 3 to include documenting and testing.
US$500 * 12 * 3 = US$19,500Just for the system out
From: Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
Date: 01/31/2013 02:26 PM
I would like to return to the selling point issue. I stated that there
are many technologies that run better outside the mainframe like Cobol and
sort. Don't take my word, ask Gartner's Dale Vecchio. have a look at this
Steve Thompson wrote:
Using your own home systems, how long does it take you to develop
something in c/C++ .net, Java, etc. and be able to sell it?
For a one man startup, $200K is a lot of money. BTDT. And the business I
had was NOT in IT.
Regards,
Steve Thompson
Steve,
Dignus
From: Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date: 01/31/2013 03:42 PM
Subject:Re: FW: mainframe selling points -- Start up Costs
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Steve Thompson wrote:
Using your own home
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote:
From: Thomas David Rivers riv...@dignus.com
To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu,
Date: 01/31/2013 03:42 PM
Subject:Re: FW: mainframe selling points -- Start up Costs
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On 1/02/2013 7:53, Edward Jaffe wrote:
By comparison, an MSDN Visual Studio Ultimate subscription from
Microsoft is $13K + $5K/year PER DEVELOPER, doesn't include hardware or
system configuration expertise, and provides only four tech support
incidents per year.
That is the very top end
On 1/02/2013 8:40, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
Note, your issues aren't limited to mainframe software
development... consider opening a restuarant... you have
to acquire the kitchen equiptment, lease/purchase the space,
do significant advertising, etc... before you sell the first
plate of food.
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