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On Sun, 24 May 2020 18:26:13 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>...
>+1
On Sun, 24 May 2020 18:26:13 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
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>+1 (What the H*** is gained by uppercasing a CART where the underlying
>service supports any 64-bit value? Don't over validate! This is the problem
>with various utilities that could handle UNIX files except that the utility
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+1 (SUBMIT)
+1 (Doc)
+1 (What
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On Mon, 25 May 2020 00:53:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Never mind case; when will SUBMIT recognize that 80 is not the only integer?
>
>Also, when TSO (sub)commands upper case their input, the documentati
ubject: Re: Friday Follies/Why won't this work?/TSO Rant #387
On Sun, 24 May 2020 14:26:51 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
>
>'MyCart01' (as written, in camel-case) was my intended CART and it is a
valid CART: a CART may have any 64-bit value. The problem was that the
CONSOLE command uppercased it
On Mon, 25 May 2020 00:53:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>Never mind case; when will SUBMIT recognize that 80 is not the only integer?
>
>Also, when TSO (sub)commands upper case their input, the documentation should
>say so in an obvious location as part of the (sub)command description.
>
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On Sun, 24 May 2020 14:26:51 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
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>'MyCart01' (as written, in camel-case) was my intended CART and it is a valid
>CART: a CART may have any 64-bit value. The problem was that the CONSOLE
>command uppercased it to MYCART01. Yes, had I written my Rexx in such a way as
>to
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The problem was NOT that Rexx (or my coding style) failed to uppercase an
operand; the problem was that TSO did
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> You seem stuck on this capitalization thing.
You seem to forget t
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Metz wrote:
>Well, I've only been using REXX for 35 years. The problems that I have seen
>from not quoting words have been few and far between, not ne
Metz wrote:
>Well, I've only been using REXX for 35 years. The problems that I have seen
>from not quoting words have been few and far between, not nearly as many as,
>e.g., problems related to continuation, omitting a period in a stem, incorrect
>capitalization in a string literal.
You
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Case sensitivity is the root of all
Slight diversion. A colleague wanted some REXX code so I sent it as an XMIT
file. He was working remotely and said, the RECEIVE fails.
When I next saw him, I went to his desk and watched the RECEIVE command.
Boom, "UNABLE TO ALLOCATE LOG.MISC".
He had TSO PROFILE(NOPREFIX) and didn't have RACF
led
labels that the interpreter may miss.
Charles
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Metz wrote:
> Running with signal on novalue and quoting everything leads to hard-to-debug
> surprises errors when you get the case wrong (present
example is typical.) ;-)
After almost 40 years of writing Rexx, I've never had that problem. Quoting
literals avoids far more problems than it
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True enough, but in my (actual) Rexx programs I always code Signal On
Novalue. To do otherwise
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Hence my quote: had he not quoted the value then it would have been a symbol
and REXX would have translated it to upper case
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Your problem is caused by using lower case characters in your CART parameter
value, the value of variable MyCart. If you
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> Case sensitivity is the root of all evil.
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> sas
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> Disclaimer: The above may contain excessive generalization,
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Case sensitivity is the root of all evil.
sas
Disclaimer: The above may contain
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We have a winner! You've got it about 90%.
The clue is in the subject line -- this is actually a TSO rant.
TSO uppercases commands so "CART" MyCart becomes effectively "CART
MYCART01".
G
Case sensitivity is the root of all evil.
sas
Disclaimer: The above may contain excessive generalization, hyperbole, and
offend your sensibilities. I'd say I'm sorry, but that would just add
flat-out lying to the mix.
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For
ot;TSOEXEC CONSOLE ACTIVATE NAME("con_name") CART("Cart_V")"
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ould solve the problem by quoting the CART
but I have not tested. Something like "CART" "'"||MyCart||"'" .
Charles
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ot;'"||MyCart||"'" .
Charles
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I called my congressman and he said quote
I'd like to help you son, but you're too young
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Charles ,
I was incorrect here:
READY
CONSPROF SOLDISP(NO) SOLNUM(400)
CONSOLE ACTIVATE
CONSOLE SYSCMD($S PRT1) CART('PRT10001')
CONSOLE SYSCMD($S PRT2) CART('PRT20002')
EXEC MY.EXEC(CHKPRT) 'PRT10001
Nope.
Charles
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If I turn on HILITE
of debug struggle!).
>>
>> Charles
>>
>>
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uot; I know the answer
> (after 2+ hours of debug struggle!).
>
> Charles
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&g
If I turn on HILITE, will the answer become apparent?
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Message handling
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Check your message handling ...
Joe
On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 11:00 AM Seymour J Metz wrote:
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>
Nope, it is fine.
Charles
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What is wrong with this Rexx? (I spent about two hours debugging before I
solved it.) The problem is right here on this page: the answer
Address Console in wrong location?
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What is wrong with this Rexx? (I spent about
What is wrong with this Rexx? (I spent about two hours debugging before I
solved it.) The problem is right here on this page: the answer is NOT
something in RACF or JES2. It's not something missing: it's a sin of
commission, not a sin of omission. The below will never work. That is, the
output
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