Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-05-01 Thread Thomas Kern
d...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. But why worry about doing updates if all you are doing is TN3270 on those Windows workstations? Delete all the games, etc. and lock t

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Mike Schwab
e- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > Lionel B. Dyck > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 12:05 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as > mainframe consoles. > > But why worry about doing upda

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Tom Longfellow
Your story reminds of all the times the pinheads end up invoking the mythical "Super Hacker" that can bypass "Any" security. My feeling is that if we are up against an all powerful Diety, we can just call it a day and go home. Why waste our lives if absolutely Nothing will stop the Super

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
of Farley, Peter x23353 [031df298a9da-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 1:52 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. Shakespeare was almost right - First get rid of all

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Seymour J Metz
s Kern Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. We had Windows PCs as consoles for our ICC. All of them were not on the real network, so no regular Windows updates. Once a month, w

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 12:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. Because somebody will come back showing the corporate standard that

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 12:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. Because somebody will come back showing the corporate standard that says ALL Windows PCs must be kept current wit

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Pommier, Rex
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. But why worry about doing updates if all you are doing is TN3270 on those Windows workstations? Delete all the games, etc. and lock them down. Lionel B. Dyck <>&

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Michael Babcock
For our OSA-ICC consoles, we use Visara LX-500 units. These have a TN3270 emulator. OSA-ICC is on a private network with no connection to the outside world. On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 10:36 AM Dana Mitchell wrote: > At my previous site, they had windows PCs for consoles on a dedicated >

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
eputation. Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General Query --- Any comment

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Ronald Wells
visara -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thomas Kern Sent: Friday, April 29, 2022 11:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. ** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION ** We had

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Thomas Kern
We had Windows PCs as consoles for our ICC. All of them were not on the real network, so no regular Windows updates. Once a month, we took a long Ethernet cable and connected each console PC to the real network and updated Windows and then reconnected to the ICC. Not too hard to do. /Tom

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Exactly how my previous site was setup, one private vlan for ICC consoles one vlan IIRC for the HMC network worked well Carmen On 4/29/2022 10:35 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: At my previous site, they had windows PCs for consoles on a dedicated network connected to the ICC ports. Since the PCs

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Dana Mitchell
At my previous site, they had windows PCs for consoles on a dedicated network connected to the ICC ports. Since the PCs don't have access to the outside world, they don't get updates automatically so they don't reboot unexpectedly. The PC folks just have to connect them to the network for

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-29 Thread Brian Westerman
There is no real reason that your ICC consoles need to be on the rest of your network. However, there are people who set it up with a VPN so they can operate consoles from home. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-28 Thread Thomas Kern
I use one of these PI units at home for my bedroom when I have to be laid up after surgery. It is small, and efficient. It can get a bit warm, I don't have a fan for mine, but you can get them. They even have a mounting so that it attaches to the back of a monitor via the VESA mounting holes.

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-28 Thread W Mainframe
Hi, I have a customer that replaces 355 desktops (Dell,HP,IBM) and 8 old terminals by Raspberry PI 3 running Raspian distro. Perfect! No issues. Dan Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 28, 2022, 1:58 PM, Tom Longfellow <03e29b607131-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-28 Thread Tom Longfellow
Chromebooks are not a bad idea.But they would require an earth-shattering paradigm shift for the desktop/workstation support staff. There was long since retired manager whose attitude was "If it does not contain a Windows component, you aren't done yet". (Sometimes substituting Linux

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-28 Thread Tom Longfellow
You are preaching to the Choir! The box we are looking to replace is a Visara SCON-22L. We have been using it for many years. The currently marketed device looks pretty nice, but I do not see coax.Time to dump the coax since we are eventually moving to a new building with new wiring.

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-28 Thread Tom Longfellow
Thanks Brian -- All very valid points. Your 'rainbow connection' on the screen sparked some interesting ideas. Spicing up the display will not replace Call of Duty (or even minesweeper), but it has some value added. Since our mainframe and its intended audience are right next door to each

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Brian Westerman
There are advantages to Windows and Linux based PC's because they will be able to use the extra capabilities of the emulators they use to emulate the 3270's. But you are completely correct that you probably don't want very large PC's because most operators would likely use them to play call of

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Michael Babcock
, April 27, 2022 1:04 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as > mainframe consoles. > > We are looking at retiring the coax connected consoles and terminals at > our site. > > The obvious answer is an O

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Ken Bloom
tsons.com Sr. Manager Managed Services Albertsons Companies -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Longfellow Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainfr

Re: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
On Behalf Of Tom Longfellow Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 4:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. We are looking at retiring the coax connected consoles and terminals at our site. The obvious answer is an OSA-ICC with ethernet

Re: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
1:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL EMAIL: General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles. We are looking at retiring the coax connected consoles and terminals at our site. The obvious answer is an OSA-ICC with ethernet connected tn3270 devices. Anybody

General Query --- Any comments on thin clients as mainframe consoles.

2022-04-27 Thread Tom Longfellow
We are looking at retiring the coax connected consoles and terminals at our site. The obvious answer is an OSA-ICC with ethernet connected tn3270 devices. Anybody have a glowing recommendation for the replacement device for the classic 3270 "green screen" workstation console? I am trying to