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2017-01-31 Thread David Boyes
> It's an unnecessary change which was forced on us because of an error due to > a request from a single user. > It's not like the HMC is in and of itself an SMTP server. THe HMC doesn't > have the capability to be an SMTP server. And it's not acting as one. It does however have to act like

Re: HMC mail domain

2017-01-27 Thread Brian Westerman
I disagree with your assessment of the "way it is" for sites. It's an unnecessary change which was forced on us because of an error due to a request from a single user. It's not like the HMC is in and of itself an SMTP server. THe HMC doesn't have the capability to be an SMTP server. It's

Re: HMC mail domain

2017-01-27 Thread Edward Gould
David: This could be a big deal with some companies. A company 6that I used to work for battled every request this and it took months t6o get it done. I vote the KISS methodology. If there is a security issue it MUST be hi lighted as well. If you opt for your way there should be a big bullet

Re: IBM-MAIN subscription (was HMC Mail domain)

2017-01-27 Thread Jousma, David
-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM-MAIN subscription (was HMC Mail domain) At two places I worded at, one using Lotus Notes I never see Junk mail and some good mail unless I call

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2017-01-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Carmen Vitullo Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: IBM-MAIN subscription (was HMC Mail domain) At two places I worded at, one using Lotus Notes I never see Junk mail and some good mail unless I call the help

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2017-01-27 Thread Mike Beer
There is a lot of things that can happen: - the sender may be blacklisted (i.e. sending IP-address is automatically rejected) - reverse DNS lookup does not work (i.e. symbolical name does not match IP address) - no or incorrect SPF-entry (sender policy framework) - other local filters may

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2017-01-27 Thread Carmen Vitullo
was not delivered and an option to mark as not spam - Original Message - From: "Tom Marchant" <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:25:37 PM Subject: Re: IBM-MAIN subscription (was HMC Mail doma

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2017-01-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Jan 2017 17:01:58 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >My analysis: There is something missing in the confirmation email that causes >my company email system (Outlook) to reject the note as spam without >notification. And it didn't go into your Junk folder? -- Tom Marchant

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2017-01-27 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Evans-Young, Darren Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: HMC Mail domain I just also verified this with my gmail account. Valid From: tag. Darren

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2017-01-27 Thread David Boyes
This is exactly the same change your network people will have to make to support mail from every other system they have. Exchange, Unix boxes, etc all have to do this. Using DNS is a part of the use of electronic mail in today's world - similar checks are in the standard configuration for

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread Evans-Young, Darren
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC Mail domain This problem hits close to the heart of IBM-Main. I discovered a while back that a new email address could not successfully be registered from within the company network. This might be for a new person or for someone whose email address had changed. After

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread Evans-Young, Darren
:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC Mail domain This problem hits close to the heart of IBM-Main. I discovered a while back that a new email address could not successfully be registered from within the company network. This might be for a new person or for someone whose email

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: (External):Re: EXTERNAL: Re: HMC Mail domain In my humble opinion this is not a problem with HMC but network/email folks in the organisation. Any HMC name and domain has to be somehow "authorized" within company network. So, *some* effort has to be done, irrespectively of the name of HMC.

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread R.S.
In my humble opinion this is not a problem with HMC but network/email folks in the organisation. Any HMC name and domain has to be somehow "authorized" within company network. So, *some* effort has to be done, irrespectively of the name of HMC. If I could choose I would pay much more effort

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
.EDU] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: HMC Mail domain Tom, Based on our experience with outlook in the cloud, yes we need to be able to provide a 'valid email address' for our account in the FROM field. Just my 2cents..

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-26 Thread Tom Mathias
Doug, Brian, Kees, Thank you for your input. Tom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

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2017-01-25 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
I agree. Kees. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Brian Westerman > Sent: 26 January, 2017 8:04 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: HMC Mail domain > > Yes I do. Not everyone

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2017-01-25 Thread Brian Westerman
Yes I do. Not everyone will be able to convince the network weenies to make the change for them. Most systems programmers just want to be able to control this (as simply as possible) from the same interface where you specify where the email gets delivered to. That doesn't seem like an

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-25 Thread Doug
Tom, Based on our experience with outlook in the cloud, yes we need to be able to provide a 'valid email address' for our account in the FROM field. Just my 2cents.. Best regards, Doug . On Jan 25, 2017, at 14:46, Tom Mathias wrote: Brian, There is going to be an

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-25 Thread Tom Mathias
Brian, There is going to be an update to the manual/helps coming in a future release. Now since your problem was fixed by updating the DNS, do you still think there needs to be a way to customize the "FROM:" line as well? Tom

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2017-01-24 Thread David Boyes
>Can't spammers bypass this check >by just faking a real domain name > in the FROM: field, something like > s...@gmail.com? That's the name that has to resolve. Remember that only the stuff in the envelope part of the SMTP transaction matters. This cuts off one trivial

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-24 Thread Tom Mathias
Brian, It looks like you now have a way around your issue. I will talk to the owner of the HMC manuals about making an update for this. Thank you for your input. Tom -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-24 Thread Brian Westerman
Thanks, That actually works quite well. IBM might want to think about putting this in the HMC manual. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-23 Thread retired mainframer
AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: HMC Mail domain > > >I don't understand, do you mean > >add another MX and A record at > >the company site domain server, > > In yours. The root problem is actually a good thing - modern mail systems require th

Re: HMC Mail domain

2017-01-23 Thread Rick Troth
Seconding what David said. And the beauty here is that this doesn't break anything and doesn't expose you to risk. On 01/23/17 09:20, David Boyes wrote: I don't understand, do you mean add another MX and A record at the company site domain server, In yours. The root problem is actually a

HMC Mail domain

2017-01-23 Thread David Boyes
>I don't understand, do you mean >add another MX and A record at >the company site domain server, In yours. The root problem is actually a good thing - modern mail systems require that the sending domain name actually resolve to something to prevent spammers. Otherwise, the SMTP protocol

Re: HMC mail domain - why not just make the name resolve to

2017-01-22 Thread Brian Westerman
I don't understand, do you mean add another MX and A record at the company site domain server, or at the site that receives the email from the company site? Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: HMC mail domain - why not just make the name resolve to

2017-01-21 Thread Edward Finnell
Exactly, just remember they're there for the next HMC cycle.. In a message dated 1/21/2017 12:41:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, dbo...@sinenomine.net writes: Maybe I'm not seeing something here, but is there any reason why you don't add an A and MX record for your HMC to DNS? Do that,

HMC mail domain - why not just make the name resolve to

2017-01-20 Thread David Boyes
Maybe I'm not seeing something here, but is there any reason why you don't add an A and MX record for your HMC to DNS? Do that, and the problem goes away. The name just has to resolve at the receiving end; doesn't imply any connectivity or access to the HMC. Assuming you are using the reserved