Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Mike Schwab
Schwab > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 1:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors > > Did IBM inflate their total number? That could result in criminal > charges and stockholder lawsuits. > > Sounds like they just moved actual revenues from one c

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Charles Mills
blem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re:

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Bill Johnson
g "I would rather have read the book." Being locked up > is no fun. Your house may be lovely but I'll bet you would not want to be > involuntarily confined there for the next two years. > > Charles > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Mike Schwab
ething is unearthed > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Bill Johnson > Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors >

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Bill Johnson
: IBM Deceived Investors Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm gave their seal of approval. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I knew a guy -- friend of a friend -- who spent a couple of years

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Bill Johnson
] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors Nobody goes to prison should they lose a civil lawsuit. The auditing firm gave their seal of approval. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, April 10, 2022, 12:18

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-11 Thread Steve Beaver
The problem becomes if in discovery something is unearthed -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Johnson Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 11:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors Nobody

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-10 Thread Bill Johnson
two years. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Stefan Skoglund Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2022 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Way

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-10 Thread Charles Mills
MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike: > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books. > Steve > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison. It isnt really my beef, but is Taft corre

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-10 Thread Stefan Skoglund
lör 2022-04-09 klockan 13:26 +1000 skrev Wayne Bickerdike: > Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books. > Steve > Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison. It isnt really my beef, but is Taft correction facility a max-security prison ? Compared with the one

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-09 Thread Charles Mills
ght that was kind of a classic geek moment. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Phil Smith III Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2022 10:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors Wayne Bickerd

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-09 Thread Phil Smith III
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: >Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books. Steve >Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison. I'd forgotten about Richards, though when I went to refresh my memory I found that Wikipedia seems to dispute your "max-security"

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-09 Thread Bill Johnson
LOLOLOLOL Sanjay committed serious crimes as CA’s CEO. I’ll guarantee IBM wins this case. Oh, and there’s a big difference between criminal cases and civil ones.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, April 8, 2022, 11:26 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-08 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Hmm. Sanjay Kumar did some serious jail time for fiddling the books. Steve Richards was sent to a dangerous max-security prison. On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:30 AM Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > If part of a customers cloud contract uses CICS, DB2, IMS, or

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Bill Johnson
If part of a customers cloud contract uses CICS, DB2, IMS, or other IBM software, it certainly should be booked as cloud revenue. It’s a frivolous lawsuit which I doubt ever gets to trial. Plus, it’s not like IBM is selling at a multiple like other cloud companies based on IBM’s cloud growth.

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bob Bridges Sent: 07 April 2022 14:19 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors Does this mean that IBM is selling substantially MORE mainframes than we've been saying in our the-mainframe-is-alive-and-well threads

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I suspect its likely more software than hardware … for instance you could claim CICS as cloud revenue if it used z/OS Connect to communicate across the network. Most every company pushes the art of the possible through creative accounting. This isn’t surprising. Not saying it’s right, but,

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Steve Beaver
Reading the filing, this could be another Sanjay case -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2022 7:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IBM Deceived Investors I

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Bob Bridges
Does this mean that IBM is selling substantially MORE mainframes than we've been saying in our the-mainframe-is-alive-and-well threads? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame, I craved factual certainty, and I thirsted for a

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Robert Prins
Reminds me of Robert On Thu, 7 Apr 2022 at 11:56, Bill Johnson < 0047540adefe-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Non-strategic mainframe business! ROTFLMAO. > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone > > > On Thursday, April 7, 2022,

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
bject: IBM Deceived Investors https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/?fbclid=IwAR3Q TGgN3SOMdbXBch5XQ4b95pfvugdJPSRpEto-6P0u33_mWAy0RPpt2nY Lionel B. Dyck < Website: www.lbdsoftware.com Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Char

Re: IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Bill Johnson
Non-strategic mainframe business! ROTFLMAO.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, April 7, 2022, 6:54 AM, Lionel B Dyck wrote: https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/?fbclid=IwAR3QTGgN3SOMdbXBch5XQ4b95pfvugdJPSRpEto-6P0u33_mWAy0RPpt2nY Lionel B. Dyck <

IBM Deceived Investors

2022-04-07 Thread Lionel B Dyck
https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/07/ibm_securities_lawsuit/?fbclid=IwAR3QTGgN3SOMdbXBch5XQ4b95pfvugdJPSRpEto-6P0u33_mWAy0RPpt2nY Lionel B. Dyck < Website: www.lbdsoftware.com Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro Worry more about your character than your reputation. Character is what you are,