"a fully configured parallel sysplex" - in the sense you meant it - is
something I see less often than I'd like. :-(
As a Performance guy, often the conversations I have with customers - based
on their data - have a big dollop of Resilience in them.
There are those that have embraced "a fully c
If you have a fully configured parallel sysplex, disruption to clients
should be minimal. On balance, less disruption than a system crash caused
by downlevel maintenance.
On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 9:33 PM Brian Westerman <
brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com> wrote:
> One of the things that you "lose" wh
One of the things that you "lose" when only IPLing once or twice per year is
the ability to install maintenance on a more frequent basis, at least anything
but individual fixes. To try to install an RSU upgrade without an IPL will be
very foolish.
As we previously stated by me and others, your
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If Brian's sites only IPL once a year or less frequently, how are fixes to
LPA modules applied? other fixes requiring an IPL?
I was impressed with maintenance
If Brian's sites only IPL once a year or less frequently, how are fixes to LPA
modules applied? other fixes requiring an IPL?
I was impressed with maintenance on the Tandem system (now HPE non-stop) where
maintenance was just a simple operator procedure.
Clark Morris
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I would use 24X365. Of course that does not take into account the Leap Year
day.
24X7X52 is more correct.
Matthew
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>> Mike Schwab
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>> Mainframes have been powered up 24*7*365 for their lifetime (a decade
>> + in some cases) since the 1960s. Just the oc
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Mainframes have been powered up 24*7*365 for their lifetime (a decade
+ in some cases) since the 1960s. Just the occasional off / on cycle
if required.
On W
hi,
150+ LPARS - Maintenance related IPLs probably once a year (sometimes out to 18
months between IPLs on some LPARs).
IPLs are a scarce event.
PORs only occur when the actual boxes get upgraded to latest zSeries box.
Regards
Bruce
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24x7x365 is actually 7 years. 😊.
Lennie
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Mainframes have been powered up 24*7*365 for their lifetime
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My €0.02
IPL - never scheduled. Only when needed. Typical scenarios:
1. Configuration error, which need
My €0.02
IPL - never scheduled. Only when needed. Typical scenarios:
1. Configuration error, which need IPL (very rare, fortunately)
2. Hardware or software changes require IPL (maybe once a year, but IMHO
less)
3. OPPORTUNITY. Yes - there are several disruptive application software
releases p
All of the sites we manage have 2 "possible" times when we "can" IPL a year, we
typically don't use them unless we are changing something that can't be done
another way. We POR only when necessary.
On average, we will ACTUALLY IPL once a year or less, some sites are once every
2 years.
In t
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RICHARD W. wrote on 9/14/21 1:06 PM:
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We IPL twice a year ... POR when needed and I cannot remember the last time we
needed a POR.
Thanks,
Ron McCabe
Manager of Mainframe/Midrange Systems
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IPL once a quarter. PORs when IBM requires.
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IPL once a quarte
IPL once a quarter. PORs when IBM requires.
On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 7:30 AM Joe
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> Just curious about how often folks here IPL their systems as a scheduled
> event , once a month, once a quarter, once a year?
> and same question for POR's
R other then when installing a new CEC. All my IOGEN work is dynamic.
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Just curious about how often folks here IPL their systems as a scheduled event
, once a month, once a quarter, once a year?
and same question for POR's.
I understand ther
Ours are rarely scheduled. Some LPARs have been running for over a year
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Just curious about how often folk
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Just curious about how often folks here IPL their systems as a scheduled event
, once a month, once a quarter, once a year?
and same question for POR's.
I understand there are times when you HAVE to have uns
>Just curious about how often folks here IPL their systems as a scheduled event
>, once a month, once a quarter, once a year?
>and same question for POR's.
>I understand there are times when you HAVE to have unscheduled or hot fix
>IPL's, I'm just asking in general terms.
We have 2 maintenance
Just curious about how often folks here IPL their systems as a scheduled event
, once a month, once a quarter, once a year?
and same question for POR's.
I understand there are times when you HAVE to have unscheduled or hot fix
IPL's, I'm just asking in general terms.
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