Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-06 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, I am able to get RMF3B messages on on my syslog. But I unable to find the way to get these message like below when DASD activity rate goes above limit on console. Can you please suggest way of achieving this task . +RMF100I 3B: Processing WFEX Report... +RMF100I 3B: Name Reason Critical

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2018 10:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: CPU Utilization When

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
03, 2018 10:10 PM >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >>> Subject: AW: Re: CPU Utilization >>> >>>> No, IEFUTL is called INSIDE an Address Space as often as specified in >> SMFPRMxx in >>> statement JWT. >>> >>> >>> and it

Re: AW: Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 07/04/2018 06:46 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: >> But if you specify the desired time on the job statement (the OP said 30 > min?), IEFUTL would get called and could take the desired action (extend for > another 30 after generating some console message?). > > > > > I stand corrected. I had in

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Roger Lowe
On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:24:00 -0500, Vince Getgood wrote: >Saurabh, >How much is your management willing to spend on achieving this requirement? > >From the few posts that I've seen, I'd suggest no-one here does this now, or >has ever done it. If a company wants to monitor it's mainframe

AW: Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>But if you specify the desired time on the job statement (the OP said 30 min?), IEFUTL would get called and could take the desired action (extend for another 30 after generating some console message?). I stand corrected. I had in mind he wanted an alert when some address space consumes more

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-04 Thread Vince Getgood
Saurabh, How much is your management willing to spend on achieving this requirement? From the few posts that I've seen, I'd suggest no-one here does this now, or has ever done it. If a company wants to monitor it's mainframe resource usage dynamically, it buys and impliments a product. (BMC

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Of Peter Hunkeler > > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:10 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: AW: Re: CPU Utilization > > > > >No, IEFUTL is called INSIDE an Address Space as often as specified in > SMFPRMxx in > > statement JWT. > > >

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread retired mainframer
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Peter Hunkeler > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 10:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: AW: Re: CPU Utilization > > >No, IEFUTL is called INSIDE an Address Space as oft

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Thanks for reply. We don't have BMC Mainview or IBM Omegamon or any third party product except Netview from ibm. I read about RMFM3B from rmf user guide also but not much help to setup this for CPU usage . Can anybody help me to achieve this task . On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 10:22 PM, Feller,

AW: Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>No, IEFUTL is called INSIDE an Address Space as often as specified in SMFPRMxx >in statement JWT. and it would also be called when the CPU time used exceeds the time limit of the job or step (TIME= parameter). But this means also that the exit is most never called. And since we're at

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Feller, Paul
If you have BMC Mainview or IBM Omegamon (or some other monitoring software) consider looking at those to monitor and alert you about CPU usage. Among other things that is part of what they are created for. Thanks.. Paul Feller AGT Mainframe Technical Support -Original Message- From:

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Peter Ten Eyck
This sounds like something that could be done with a product like BMC Mainview for z/OS or ASG TMON for z/OS (or other). I think alerts can be set for CPU usage in these products. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Scott Barry
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:42:21 +0300, saurabh khandelwal wrote: >Hello Group, > >We have requirement to trigger alert to operator console, once CPU >utilization for any address space or any Job or any running STC reach to >certain pre defined number. Like any job or address space or STC consuming

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
saurabh khandelwal wrote: >Can IEFUTL exit also provide live CPU usage detail by every job, stc, address >space, omvs etc and send alert to operator console, if any set limit for CPU >is exceeded . No, IEFUTL is called INSIDE an Address Space as often as specified in SMFPRMxx in statement JWT

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread saurabh khandelwal
I read about RMFM3B from below white paper http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/c6192fb3a432612485256d970082de57/399938068ea32df786256e2a005e8c8e/$FILE/RMF_WTO_2010.pdf but i am not sure, how to implement this for checking live cpu usage for every stc, jes job , omvs etc and

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread saurabh khandelwal
Hello, Thanks for reply. Can IEFUTL exit also provide live CPU usage detail by every job, stc, address space, omvs etc and send alert to operator console, if any set limit for CPU is exceeded . On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 6:53 PM, retired mainframer wrote: > You might look at IEFUTL in the MVS

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread retired mainframer
You might look at IEFUTL in the MVS Installation Exits manual to see if it can do what you want. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of saurabh khandelwal > Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2018 4:42 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: CPU Utilization

Re: CPU Utilization

2018-07-03 Thread Roger Lowe
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 14:42:21 +0300, saurabh khandelwal wrote: >Hello Group, > >We have requirement to trigger alert to operator console, once CPU >utilization for any address space or any Job or any running STC reach to >certain pre defined number. Like any job or address space or STC consuming

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-08 Thread Shane Ginnane
Workload Manager is your friend. Hmmm - *IF* you understand the (history of the) workload, the SLAs, the expectations of the customer, the politics, ... And WLM itself of course. Take it from me, it is bloody difficult to walk into a site and make sensible determinations that will be

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-08 Thread RCG
Thanks a lot for everyone and appreciate your time and help, I will consider the recommendations given as i move on, Thanks again! On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 11:00 AM, nitz-...@gmx.net nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Not sure how Workload Manager is being used or configured at your shop. From the

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-08 Thread mf db
Probably your mainframe capacity enginneer should have this in his Mind.(It really requires a professional approach) Peter. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:45 PM, RCG rkcgowda1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot for everyone and appreciate your time and help, I will consider the recommendations given

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-08 Thread Ed Finnell
Yeah, then sometimes you need outside help to make things better. Perf. Assoc, Watsonwalker.com, even IBM has tuning services. They are for a fee. It might mean spending thousands to save millions in software/hardware upgrades. In a message dated 11/8/2012 3:01:45 A.M. Central Standard

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-08 Thread Scott Ford
Some manglers feel us techies, experienced ones, are a dime a dozen Scott ford www.identityforge.com Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand. - Chinese Proverb On Nov 7, 2012, at 10:46 PM, Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote: I don't contribute

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Also trying to figure out any batch loads that are of not high priority to run over a non-peak hours which might help a bit to it, /snip This is a techno-political question which only the customer can answer snip Any expert advice on the other ways that i can consider to help would be

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Running 100% is not bad. What is bad is missing SLA's. So if you are not missing SLA's, you don't have an immediate problem. If your shop is like most shops, the work load is growing and that can lead to missing SLA's in the future. I would do the following: 1) Look for 'hot spots', first

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread RCG
Appreciate the prompt response and help Chris Allan, I will consider the advises given and look to see those areas of improvement, Thanks again! Regards, RKC On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com wrote: Running 100% is not bad. What is bad is

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread zMan
Don't take this the wrong way, but performance analysis and tuning isn't something you pick up in your spare time. You need to get a professional involved. That's not me, so this isn't self-interested. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Blaicher, Christopher Y. cblaic...@syncsort.com wrote:

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Ron Hawkins
Workload Manager is your friend. Cram on this before attempting anything else. It is your primary tool to accomplish your objectives, but you need to understand how the tool works. If you don't know which end of the hammer to hold you'll never drive in the nail. If you don't have SAS and MXG,

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Dave Salt
: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 10:04:08 -0500 From: cblaic...@syncsort.com Subject: Re: CPU Utilization To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Running 100% is not bad. What is bad is missing SLA's. So if you are not missing SLA's, you don't have an immediate problem. If your shop is like most shops, the work

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Adams Anne (DTI)
As has been stated before, Capacity and Performance is not a casual thing that you can do over lunch. That being said, you can look at a few things. 100% is not a bad thing, modern mainframes are designed to run at 100%. The question is whether things are being delayed. If you have access to

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I don't contribute to this list very much, but I feel I should in this case. Performance/Capacity Management is not learned overnight. Nor is it a subject where a couple of nuggets on a list serve will solve your problems. Is SMP/E learned overnight? Is being a DBA? COBOL programmer? RACF

Re: CPU Utilization

2012-11-07 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Not sure how Workload Manager is being used or configured at your shop. From the original description, I am assuming that that installation runs more than one lpar on the box, most probably with lpar weights that reflect importance of the lpars. If the OP happens to work on an lpar that is not