Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-03 Thread Edward Finnell
_ I certify I have created a HLQ on z/OS with Db2.                      Signed,                      _                      from the Offices of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe  In a message dated 11/3/2017 1:13:58 AM Central Standard Time, dcrayf...@gmail.com writes:   makes

Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-03 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> > The rebranding of MQ from MQ Series to Websphere MQ to IBM MQ kind of > makes sense. But "Db2" looks like a typo! IBM's marketing executives > have really scraped the barrel with that one ;) > It looks to me like those "corrections" that pseudo intelligent automatic spelling checkers often

Re: AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-03 Thread David Crayford
On 3/11/2017 2:24 AM, Peter Hunkeler wrote: The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) > Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not fully predictable. :-) When things were rebranded to x..., i..., p..., and z..., IBM at least had a story to tell.

AW: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>>The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) > >Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not >fully predictable. :-) When things were rebranded to x..., i..., p..., and z..., IBM at least had a story to tell. Nowadays marketing seem to be allowed to do

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Martin Packer
;wdrisc...@rocketsoftware.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2017 14:22 Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Martin, Yes, but I think that virtual storage limitations drove some of the function separat

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
: Thursday, November 2, 2017 8:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Db2 virtual storage is a long and complicated story but DBM1 is far and away the biggest consumer - so I think separation of functions is a more likely story than just virtual storage

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 4:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS IMS DB/DC was MVS. The DC part was never available on DOS/VS or VSE, the interface was CICS on the VSE platform. So DL/I was the data management layer and the APIs / Call

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Martin Packer
ttps://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/mainframe-performance-topics/id1127943573?mt=2 From: Mohammad Khan <mkkha...@hotmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/11/2017 13:37 Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.E

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Mohammad Khan
On Thu, 2 Nov 2017 20:30:21 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > >Why DB2 has so many address spaces is probably because of the IMS heritage. >Other (simpler but equally effective DBMS) manage on a single address >spaceI wish... > I believe this was due to the size

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread David Crayford
On 2/11/2017 5:30 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Why DB2 has so many address spaces is probably because of the IMS heritage. Other (simpler but equally effective DBMS) manage on a single address spaceI wish... Didn't you mean Db2, Wayne? ;)

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Edward Finnell
Yeah easy. ===>c 'DSN' 'CSQ' all   Why is he shaking his head? Honey, where did I leave the buggy whip?   In a message dated 11/2/2017 5:18:54 AM Central Standard Time, kees.verno...@klm.com writes:   I was told, that if you took DB2 V3, renamed all DSN strings to CSQ, you had the first QM

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> > IBM recycled the log manager of IMS into DB2 and MQ seems to have very > similar topology. > I was told, that if you took DB2 V3, renamed all DSN strings to CSQ, you had the first QM version. Kees. For information, services and

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
IMS DB/DC was MVS. The DC part was never available on DOS/VS or VSE, the interface was CICS on the VSE platform. So DL/I was the data management layer and the APIs / Call interface were almost identical on both VSE and MVS. As a PL/1 jockey in the 1970's at IBM we coded mainly batch IMS (Call

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-11-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
Walt Farrell wrote: >The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) Also lowercase in z/VM, z/VSE, and z/TPF. For now, at least. The future is not fully predictable. :-) Timothy Sipples IT

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21)

2017-11-01 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 17:17:16 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >The b is lowercase, but the Z is now uppercase. Have a look: > >https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/db2/db2-for-zos/ > >https://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ The z is still lowercase in z/OS, though :) -- Walt

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS (21)

2017-11-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
The b is lowercase, but the Z is now uppercase. Have a look: https://www.ibm.com/analytics/us/en/db2/db2-for-zos/ https://www.ibm.com/systems/z/ Timothy Sipples IT Architect Executive,

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
edgould1...@comcast.net (Edward Gould) writes: > Way back in the 1980’s we had just gotten in a 4331 for testing. I was > given a list of software to order and DL/1 was there but for DOS/VSE. > Was it ever available on MVS? > My memory is starting to ooze here, but wasn’t there a DB for VM as well

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
k...@ntrs.com (Karl S Huf) writes: > Yes, IBM officially rebranded DB2 to Db2 because . . . that's what they > do (apologies to GEICO). At least it's still pronounced the same so > that's at least one less question I have to field - unlike, say JES2 vs > JES3 ("Hey Karl, are we every going to

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
jesse1.robin...@sce.com (Jesse 1 Robinson) writes: > The name change was much bandied about at SHARE in Providence. I for > one have gotten over my indignation and am ready to move on. If you > really want to be offended by an assault on the sensibilities, how > about the fact that there never was

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Chris Hoelscher
I'm afraid they can't do that da- er, steve ... Chris Hoelscher Technology Architect, Database Infrastructure Services Technology Solution Services 123 East Main Street Louisville, KY 40202 Humana.com (502) 476-2538 or 407-7266 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Steve Thompson
On 10/31/2017 01:32 PM, Karl S Huf wrote: That explains why OS/2 took off and is the stalwart of x86 operating systems today. :) Yes, IBM officially rebranded DB2 to Db2 because . . . that's what they do (apologies to GEICO). At least it's still pronounced the same so that's at least one less

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Karl S Huf
; -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Walt Farrell > > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 8:13 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: (External):Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS > >

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Isaac Yassin
t: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 6:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS Importance: High Getting closer... there was something called "DL1", or maybe it was styled "DL/I" like PL/I. It was part of IMS, although it could be adapted or something t

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Steve Smith
Getting closer... there was something called "DL1", or maybe it was styled "DL/I" like PL/I. It was part of IMS, although it could be adapted or something to CICS and batch. Also, IMS I think was semi-organized into two parts: IMS/DB and IMS/DC. All-in-all, a plausible case for the "2" in dB2.

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Dale R. Smith
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 15:30:54 +, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: >The name change was much bandied about at SHARE in Providence. I for one have >gotten over my indignation and am ready to move on. If you really want to be >offended by an assault on the sensibilities, how

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: (External):Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin <gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com> wrote: >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result >> in my SQL SELET... Com

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
; Subject: Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin > <gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com> wrote: > > >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: > >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same >

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 10:44:40 -0400, Gord Tomlin wrote: >On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: >> What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result >> in my SQL SELET... Come on! >Did you notice the ® associated with Db2®? That's a

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2017-10-31 10:28, W Mainframe wrote: What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result in my SQL SELET... Come on! Did you notice the ® associated with Db2®? That's a sure sign that IBM and its lawyers care. -- -- Regards, Gord Tomlin Action Software

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Kirk Wolf
OK, which one of you guys submitted an RFE to change the name, and what was your business justification? :-) Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread W Mainframe
What really matter the difference between Db2 and DB2? I see the same result in my SQL SELET... Come on! Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, October 31, 2017, 9:50 AM, Mohammad Khan wrote: On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:45 +0800, David Crayford

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Mohammad Khan
On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:04:45 +0800, David Crayford wrote: >On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: > >What genius at IBM decided it was a good idea to re-brand DB2 to Db2? >We've got loads of documentation that references DB2. Should we spend >time and money changing our

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/10/2017 9:31 PM, Lou Losee wrote: All the latest Db2 books refer to Db2 not DB2. What about vendor books? Lou Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread Lou Losee
All the latest Db2 books refer to Db2 not DB2. Lou Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-10-31 o 14:04, David Crayford pisze: On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: - Interoperability with IBM middleware, including Db2® and z/OS Connect - Unparalleled scalability for Node.js applications by using the underlying z/OS asyncio and IBM Z I/O bandwidth What

Re: Db2! was: NODE.js for z/OS

2017-10-31 Thread David Crayford
On 31/10/2017 8:34 PM, John McKown wrote: - Interoperability with IBM middleware, including Db2® and z/OS Connect - Unparalleled scalability for Node.js applications by using the underlying z/OS asyncio and IBM Z I/O bandwidth What genius at IBM decided it was a good idea to