Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-21 Thread Ed Gould
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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-21 Thread Edward Finnell
Wiki quote: In September 1999, _GUIDE International_ (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUIDE_International) , the other major IBM mainframe users group, ceased operation. Although SHARE did not formally take over GUIDE in the United States, many of the activities and projects that were

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-21 Thread Linda
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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-20 Thread Ed Gould
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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-20 Thread Linda
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Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread Scott Ford
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of John Ehrman > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:17 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU <javascript:;> > > Subject: (External):Re: Grace didn't coin th

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread Clark Morris
rch 18, 2016 00:17 >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? > >The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think >it was) relay computer at Harvard. An error was

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread Linda
Behalf Of John Ehrman > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:17 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: (External):Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? > > The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it > was) relay computer at Harvard.

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? This story is from my youth, and may be incompletely remembered In Brainerd, MN around 1963 when I was a young teen, I met a fellow who may have been the victim of that "first real BUG". As I remember his

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread John Ehrman
The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it was) relay computer at Harvard. An error was traced to a moth between two relay contacts. In the Computer History Museum in Mountain View CA there's a copy of the logbook page with the moth pasted in place. The

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-19 Thread John Mattson
This story is from my youth, and may be incompletely remembered In Brainerd, MN around 1963 when I was a young teen, I met a fellow who may have been the victim of that "first real BUG". As I remember his story he was in the military, cannot remember which branch, and operating a computer.

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Relay #70. -teD   Original Message   From: John Ehrman Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 00:17 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Ehrman Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it was) relay computer

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Yes, it was. -teD   Original Message   From: Clark Morris Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 09:09 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? On 18 Mar 2016 05:18:44 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Ted wrote:

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Smithson. It was a moth caught in relay 71 -teD   Original Message   From: CM Poncelet Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 22:08 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? AFAIK The original Grace Hopper 'bug' was an

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-16 Thread Edward Finnell
We found one deep in IOS after XA conversion. Simultaneous interrupts, temp errors on tapes, forms check on printers output buffers were not being serialized and often switched. Depending on timing. don't think there was even a dump but corrupted databases and log files. 32 hr production

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Edward Finnell wrote: >Wiki has fairly good syllabus. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology Interesting. Very very interesting. Thanks Edward for posting this resource. Good reading for all wannabee bug killers. :-) My least favourite bugs are these bugs called 'Alien' and

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-16 Thread Edward Finnell
Wiki has fairly good syllabus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology In a message dated 3/16/2016 1:17:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time, elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes: Apparently Grace coined the term, but I don't know. But what I know and was told ages ago, the

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-16 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Field, Alan wrote: >This? [ long address snipped ] Yes. This is it. I first see that photo of a moth taped to a handwritten note in a university book for Computer Science in year 1987. The book's name is 'Computer' by various authors. There is a paragraph about that moth found and it was

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread William Donzelli
> I've seen a photo of the actual bug Grace had used to coin the phrase. Yes, the moth was real, but the issue is that she did not coin the phrase. It was well known in the engineering world. -- Will -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
ugged". > >My source was probably urban legend. > > > >--- wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: > >From: William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:56

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Field, Alan
] On Behalf Of Mitch Mccluhan Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 9:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? I've seen a photo of the actual bug Grace had used to coin the phrase. Mitch Mccluhan mitc...@aol.com On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 CM Ponce

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Mitch Mccluhan
> > > >--- wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: > >From: William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com> >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:56:07 -0400 > >No, she did not. The term "bug&quo

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread CM Poncelet
bugs. Periodically, the computer had to be "debugged". My source was probably urban legend. --- wdonze...@gmail.com wrote: From: William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? Date

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of William Donzelli Sent: tiistaina 15. maaliskuuta 2016 19.56 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a circuit*, sh

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2016 12:08 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? I thought the term debugging came from the days when the first comp

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread Richard Pinion
ote: From: William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"? Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:56:07 -0400 No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a circuit*, shows up a fair

Re: Grace didn't coin the term "bug"?

2016-03-15 Thread William Donzelli
No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a circuit*, shows up a fair amount in 1930s ham radio literature, for example. * "bug" also applies to automatic Morse keys, of course. -- Will On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote: > Was