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>The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think
>it was) relay computer at Harvard. An error was
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> The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it
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This story is from my youth, and may be incompletely remembered
In Brainerd, MN around 1963 when I was a young teen, I met a fellow who may
have been the victim of that "first real BUG". As I remember his
The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think
it was) relay computer at Harvard. An error was traced to a moth between
two relay contacts.
In the Computer History Museum in Mountain View CA there's a copy of the
logbook page with the moth pasted in place. The
This story is from my youth, and may be incompletely remembered
In Brainerd, MN around 1963 when I was a young teen, I met a fellow who may
have been the victim of that "first real BUG". As I remember his story he
was in the military, cannot remember which branch, and operating a
computer.
Relay #70.
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The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think
it
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The association of bugs with computers may go back to the Mark I (I think it
was) relay computer
Yes, it was.
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On 18 Mar 2016 05:18:44 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Ted wrote:
Smithson.
It was a moth caught in relay 71
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AFAIK The original Grace Hopper 'bug' was an
We found one deep in IOS after XA conversion. Simultaneous interrupts, temp
errors on tapes, forms check on printers output buffers were not being
serialized and often switched. Depending on timing. don't think there was
even a dump but corrupted databases and log files. 32 hr production
Edward Finnell wrote:
>Wiki has fairly good syllabus.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology
Interesting. Very very interesting.
Thanks Edward for posting this resource. Good reading for all wannabee bug
killers. :-)
My least favourite bugs are these bugs called 'Alien' and
Wiki has fairly good syllabus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_bug#Etymology
In a message dated 3/16/2016 1:17:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:
Apparently Grace coined the term, but I don't know. But what I know and
was told ages ago, the
Field, Alan wrote:
>This? [ long address snipped ]
Yes. This is it. I first see that photo of a moth taped to a handwritten note
in a university book for Computer Science in year 1987. The book's name is
'Computer' by various authors. There is a paragraph about that moth found and
it was
> I've seen a photo of the actual bug Grace had used to coin the phrase.
Yes, the moth was real, but the issue is that she did not coin the
phrase. It was well known in the engineering world.
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>My source was probably urban legend.
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I've seen a photo of the actual bug Grace had used to coin the phrase.
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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 CM Ponce
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>No, she did not. The term "bug&quo
bugs. Periodically, the computer had to be "debugged".
My source was probably urban legend.
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Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
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No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a circuit*,
sh
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I thought the term debugging came from the days when the first comp
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From: William Donzelli <wdonze...@gmail.com>
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Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:56:07 -0400
No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a
circuit*, shows up a fair
No, she did not. The term "bug", relating to flaws and errors in a
circuit*, shows up a fair amount in 1930s ham radio literature, for
example.
* "bug" also applies to automatic Morse keys, of course.
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Will
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Lindy Mayfield wrote:
> Was
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