Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:26:46 +, Jousma, David wrote: >Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!... > >Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion. > And no one knows why. FTP appears designed to ignore conventions and frustrate programmers.\ Once I coded: //SYSUT1 DD RECFM=U,...

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
It is. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Michael Oujesky Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 1:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Just a thought, but is Connect Direct available? Michael

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Michael Oujesky
, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Will give that a shot Gil. Running now, at the fast

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 1:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Will give that a shot Gil. Running now, at the fast speed. We’ll if if ADRDSSU at the remote end can read the file Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Tech

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
equ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 12:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14: 41: 32 +, rpinion865 wrote: >As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker. Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B. B

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:41:32 +, rpinion865 wrote: >As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker. >Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B. But we all know >there is CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends. > Might STRU R be

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Colin Paice
g > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Massimo Biancucci <05a019256424-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:26 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's > Dave, it becomes more inter

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:30 AM > To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's > Max, > > As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC is slow. Same file just > binary mode, it is fast. Of course, cant transm

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
And all lpars are at the same levels of software. Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering From: Jousma, David Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:30 AM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Max, As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
<05a019256424-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Dave, it becomes more interesting. Could it depend on the file data itself ? Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
on behalf of rpinion865 <042a019916dd-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's What about non-zEDC compression for the destination output dataset? Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Thursday, March 28th

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
at too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example). > >> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow? > >> > >> Andy Styles > >> z/Series Systems Programmer > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's > Classification: Public Do you have access to any other kind of transfer > mechanism, and if so, does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect: >

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
at 9:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's > Classification: Public Do you have access to any other kind of transfer > mechanism, and if so, does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect: Direct > for example). I

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread David Spiegel
On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's *** This email is from an external source - be careful of attachments and links. Please report suspicious emails *** There is, but same for all lpars involved. Dave Jousma Vice

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
President | Director, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
; Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Dave, did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything different ? Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ? Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any difference ? Best r

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
All between 4 z15’s Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab <05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
et device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow? > > Andy Styles > z/Series Systems Programmer > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf > Of Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations )
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's *** This email is from an external source - be careful of attachments and links. Please report suspicious emails *** There is, but same

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
FWIW I transferred a DSS dump of a z/OS 2.4 SYS1.LINKLIB (3540 tracks) to a test LPAR that is capped and to a production LPAR that is not capped. On the test LPAR I got 31MB/sec and on the production LPAR I got 70MB/sec. Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Mike Schwab
How about processors (z15/z16)? On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:30 AM Jousma, David <01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too. > > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS > dump, and

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8: 03 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes Is there a firewall or

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Joe Monk
t; Dave Jousma > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering > > > > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
4 at 8:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Colin Paice <059d4daca697-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's Dave, I've been working on a TCP session monitor. It reports MB/

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Joe Monk
Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too. > > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
t 8:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Slow FTP's z/OS TCP/IP is not my area of expertise. I would check to insure the ITRACE and PKTTRACE are turned off, and take a look at TCPCONFIG TCPMAXRCVBUFRSIZE TCPRCVBUFRSIZE TCPSENDBFRSIZE And, another possibility D TCPIP,tcpipname,NETSTAT,DE

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
z/OS TCP/IP is not my area of expertise. I would check to insure the ITRACE and PKTTRACE are turned off, and take a look at TCPCONFIG TCPMAXRCVBUFRSIZE TCPRCVBUFRSIZE TCPSENDBFRSIZE And, another possibility D TCPIP,tcpipname,NETSTAT,DEV Look for

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Colin Paice
Dave, I've been working on a TCP session monitor. It reports MB/Second + changes to the TCP parameters, such as change in window size, buffer size etc. all of which affect throughput. I can let you have a copy of the program if you are interested. colinpai...@gmail.com it reports //SYSPRINT

Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
All, Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too. To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be. Its roughly a 50Gb file transfer. There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to some