Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-12-03 Thread Chris Hoelscher
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 10:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs? I can't recall ever seeing such an ACCEPT recommendation from IBM, probably because your own installation maintenance practices

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-12-03 Thread Skeldum, William
Subject: Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs? I NEVER accept PTFS - but for an entirely different reason I like to build meaningful reports as to what has been applied - when applied, the corresponding APAR#, a description, is it hiper? The RSU to which it belongs, and the owning product affected

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-23 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I can't recall ever seeing such an ACCEPT recommendation from IBM, probably because your own installation maintenance practices play such a major role here. The only reason for not ACCEPTing PTFs (USERMODS and APAR fixes should typically never be accepted) is because you might need to RESTORE a

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-22 Thread Staller, Allan
IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY. HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-22 Thread Mike Schwab
How about not until IBM tells you to? As in you must accept before apply this PTF? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY. HTH,

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-21 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:36:15 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: One way to handle the already APPLY'ed and now PE PTF issue is to periodically pull the HOLD Data and do an ACCEPT CHECK. That would flag/indicate a PTFs in this state. That's the hard way. It is much easier to receive current hold

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 07:30 -0600 on 11/21/2013, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?: On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:36:15 -0500, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: One way to handle the already APPLY'ed and now PE PTF issue is to periodically pull the HOLD Data and do an ACCEPT CHECK. That would flag

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-21 Thread Ed Gould
-0600 on 11/19/2013, Alex wrote about When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?: As you know, each DB2 RSU PTF package contains hundreds of PTFs. When we apply those PTFs, we may need to restore some USERMOD and related PTFs first and then proceed with applying task. If your problem is that to restore

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4562813219550940.wa.mathwstittbellsouth@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/19/2013 at 04:52 PM, Matthew Stitt mathwst...@bellsouth.net said: DB2 does not release PTFs on a Level Set basis. Who said anything about level sets? What should be a standard operating procedure is to order and receive

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 00:28 -0500 on 11/20/2013, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote about Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?: When an Apply is done, any PTFs which are marked as being in error will not be Applied. So? That doesn't help if the error is not discovered until after you do the APPLY. I agree

When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Alex
Dear friends, I have been confusing that when should we accept DB2 PTFs by SMP/E? As you know, each DB2 RSU PTF package contains hundreds of PTFs. When we apply those PTFs, we may need to restore some USERMOD and related PTFs first and then proceed with applying task. Let's say we need

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-11-19 10:11, Alex pisze: Dear friends, I have been confusing that when should we accept DB2 PTFs by SMP/E? As you know, each DB2 RSU PTF package contains hundreds of PTFs. When we apply those PTFs, we may need to restore some USERMOD and related PTFs first and then proceed

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Alex Wang
Dear Radoslaw, Thank you very much for your sharing! Indeed, BACKUP is always helpful/important and should be keep in mind for our IT people. :-) Again, thanks and good luck to you! Alex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Paul Peplinski
My approach is to perform a backup and document of every major DB2 maintenance cycle. If I have relatively stable code I will accept what I have in production before starting a new cycle knowing full well I could revert to someting even earlier if need be. I am curious what usermod would have

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4137735368258915.wa.szwangxdgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/19/2013 at 03:11 AM, Alex szwan...@gmail.com said: I have been confusing that when should we accept DB2 PTFs by SMP/E? It's the same issue as for any other component or product. pick an aging interval that you're comfortable

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Matthew Stitt
of the Applied PTFs. On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:39:34 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 4137735368258915.wa.szwangxdgmail@listserv.ua.edu, on 11/19/2013 at 03:11 AM, Alex szwan...@gmail.com said: I have been confusing that when should we accept DB2 PTFs

Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?

2013-11-19 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 03:11 -0600 on 11/19/2013, Alex wrote about When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?: As you know, each DB2 RSU PTF package contains hundreds of PTFs. When we apply those PTFs, we may need to restore some USERMOD and related PTFs first and then proceed with applying task. If your problem