On Wed, 23 Aug 2023, at 21:59, David Crayford wrote:
>You are never too old to learn new things.
Cognitive decline happens with illness and/or age. Don't
assume it won't happen to you too.
There comes a point where although one could make a huge
effort to learn new ways of doing old things, it'
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> On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If
that might be fun to play with.
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On Wed, Aug 23, 2023 at 10:44:08AM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > Maybe people say so because they expected something else.
>
> "Humor is such a subjective thing!" (B5). My guess is that the quip
> came from an emacs user who was perfectly content with it.
I sensed humor there, but, well... Mor
I can see both sides of this. On the one hand I accept that once I'm used to
sticking my key into the door of the car, it takes time and thought (when I get
one of those new-fangled fobs) to turn it over and find the right button and
push it instead. And why take time and thought when it saves
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> On 24/8/2023 3:51 am, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>> Sure, but where are the data coming from? If it
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> It's a start, but I would love the oppo
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> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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> It's a start, but I would love the opportunity to fork out $ for a full
> clone. Not that I have any objections to using free software when it suits my
> needs, but I won't ignore a useful program just because it's not open source.
> Tak
By definition it's not just a good indicator, it's a perfect indicator, that
the editor lacks the feature(s) I wanted for my own idiosyncratic use. I don't
usually fault the editor for that; I can almost always think up features that
no one else would want.
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> On 23 Aug 2023, at 10:45 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote:
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>> Still finding this hard to recreate using ISPF with edit macros
>
> On a PC it's easy to examine every keystroke as it comes in
PC? That’s running in a Linux shell over SSH. Vim doesn’t need to run on a PC
for full duplex. It’s a nurses
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On 23/8/2023 10:29 am, Steve Beaver wrote:
> I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf
> ported to Linux/Unix.
https://github.com/daniel64/lspf
> I have used ISPF for
y, August 22, 2023 11:47 PM
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On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:51:00PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > I was just using emacs as ordinary text editor
>
> For me, an ordinary text editor is one that includes a good macro
> fac
Whoops! Forgot the link https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode
> On 23 Aug 2023, at 12:19 pm, David Crayford wrote:
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> I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in the
> modern world of language servers.
>
> On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 22
I noticed that there is LSP support for Emacs. That's super important in
the modern world of language servers.
On 23/8/2023 9:32 am, Tomasz Rola wrote:
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:44:30AM +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-)
Aha. Ed and vi are still being
On 23/8/2023 10:29 am, Steve Beaver wrote:
I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf ported
to Linux/Unix.
https://github.com/daniel64/lspf
I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10 to ispf written
for Linux/Unix
hahaha! Still finding t
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 12:51:00PM +, Seymour J Metz wrote:
> > I was just using emacs as ordinary text editor
>
> For me, an ordinary text editor is one that includes a good macro
> facility, and I write new macros at the drop of a hat. If and when I
> learn emacs, learning LISP will be part
I have tried VI and I find it to slow. I would use eMacs. Prefer to ispf ported
to Linux/Unix. I have used ISPF for ever and i can out do and any using VI 10
to ispf written for Linux/Unix
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> On Aug 22, 2023, at 20:32, Tomasz Rola w
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 08:44:30AM +0100, Rupert Reynolds wrote:
> I remember using ed. Via a 2400bps modem :-)
Aha. Ed and vi are still being praised by various people for their
ability to use such a narrow bandwith.
> I'm told the thing with emacs is that, if you like it, it can end up being
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