Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:48:56 -0500, John McKown wrote: >On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> The description of the algorithm is very well documented indeed in the >> instruction description. You wanted maybe to see the silicon...? >> > >​Well, it does give

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 14:50, John McKown > wrote: > > > ​With respect to the PoPS, "Convert UTF-8 to Unicode" is exactly the same > > instruction as "Convert UTF-8 to UTF-16" and "Convert

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On 12 April 2017 at 14:50, John McKown wrote: > ​With respect to the PoPS, "Convert UTF-8 to Unicode" is exactly the same > instruction as "Convert UTF-8 to UTF-16" and "Convert Unicode to UTF-8" is > the same instruction as "Convert UTF-16 to UTF-8".​ The results

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 12 April 2017 at 15:22, Paul Gilmartin < > 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > > I see that: > > CONVERT UTF-8 TO UTF-16 > > CONVERT UTF-8 TO UNICODE > > ... > > 'B2A7' > > ... > > The

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On 12 April 2017 at 15:22, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I see that: > CONVERT UTF-8 TO UTF-16 > CONVERT UTF-8 TO UNICODE > ... > 'B2A7' > ... > The one-, two-, three-, or four-byte UTF-8 characters of the second > operand are converted to

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:50:47 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >> * CONVERT UNICODE TO UTF-8 >> * CONVERT UTF-8 TO UNICODE >> >> What's "UNICODE"? I suppose it's in a glossary somewhere. > >​With respect to the PoPS, "Convert UTF-8 to Unicode" is exactly the same >instruction as "Convert UTF-8 to

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > I also see: > * CONVERT UNICODE TO UTF-8 > * CONVERT UTF-8 TO UNICODE > > What's "UNICODE"? I suppose it's in a glossary somewhere. > ​With respect to the PoPS, "Convert UTF-8 to

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:35:22 -0400, Don Poitras wrote: >> > >> Alas, poor UTF-8, so pervasively used elsewhere. > >"Elsewhere" in this case to conspicuously exclude Windows. > Hmmm. If I name an NTFS file in Cyrillic characters, what representation is used? I had thought it was UTF-8. Ah,

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:13:01 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> Alas, poor UTF-8, so pervasively used elsewhere. > >It's a fine interchange format, but a huge pain to actually process. > An offsetting advantage is that UTF-8 strings can be embedded as quoted strings in most languages as if they were

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Don Poitras wrote: > In article <9210386730479139.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you > wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:14:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > > > >?z/OS has UNICODE System Services to "help" with this sort of thing. > >

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

In article <9210386730479139.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu> you wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:14:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: > > > >?z/OS has UNICODE System Services to "help" with this sort of thing. >

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 08:14:33 -0500, John McKown wrote: > >​z/OS has UNICODE System Services to "help" with this sort of thing. >https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.cunu100/toc.htm > >Also, the currently hardware has a lot more translate instructions beyond

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

Thanks. So it *does* the same thing as TR, but with more controls. Nice. On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 10:18 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:46 AM, zMan wrote: > > > I'm not clear on the difference between TR and TROO, even

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 8:46 AM, zMan wrote: > I'm not clear on the difference between TR and TROO, even after reading the > PofOp. Anyone got a good explanation? > ​In defiance of your request for a good explanation, I will write something [grin]. TR basically can

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

I'm not clear on the difference between TR and TROO, even after reading the PofOp. Anyone got a good explanation? On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 9:14 AM, John McKown wrote: > On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Avram Friedman < > ibmsysp...@ibm-sys-prog.com > > wrote: > > >

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Avram Friedman wrote: > There are 2 problems with multiable encoding methods > 1. Display S360+ has special hardware support for converting binary / > decimal to/from display EBCDIC. Any other encoding for display is roll > your

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

ril 10, 2017 10:46 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input > >To list; >  I am sending this question again as I do not recall receiving a response. >I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to >accept No

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:56:39 -0400, Tom Conley wrote: >On 4/11/2017 11:58 AM, william janulin wrote: >> I should have stayed retired. > >Sorry I haven't been able to respond sooner in more detail. I think our >confusion (at least mine, anyway) stems from the fact that z/OS handles >ASCII and

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On 4/11/2017 11:58 AM, william janulin wrote: I should have stayed retired. Bill, Sorry I haven't been able to respond sooner in more detail. I think our confusion (at least mine, anyway) stems from the fact that z/OS handles ASCII and UNICODE already. If you transfer your ASCII and

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

TSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input OK, let's close out this thread. I thought this was a simple question but, obviously, I do not know anything.     On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:00 AM, Carmen Vitullo <cvitu...@hughes.net> wrote: When you say Serena person,

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

the brevity. Original message From: william janulin <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 4/11/17 11:07 AM (GMT-04:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input OK, let's close out this thread. I thought this was a simple qu

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

iam janulin" <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:53:00 AM Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input Well, it was a SERENA person that asked me the question On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 10:33 AM,

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

l Message - > > From: "william janulin" <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:53:00 AM > Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input > > Well, it was a SERENA person that asked m

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

. http://www.serenacentral.com/ Carmen - Original Message - From: "william janulin" <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:53:00 AM Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input Well, it was

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

m: william janulin <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 4/11/17 9:40 AM (GMT-04:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all of the above. I thought this was a so

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

nulin" <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2017 9:20:40 AM Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input My user raised this question. They are using our mainframe server with z-OS (ZMF Changeman application).

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

t;008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 4/11/17  9:40 AM  (GMT-04:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all of the above. I thought this was a somewhat general questio

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

he brevity. Original message From: william janulin <008d52e04f2e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Date: 4/11/17 9:40 AM (GMT-04:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 13:40:32 +, william janulin wrote: >To answer the question about what sort of portal, I would say all of the >above. I thought this was a somewhat general question as to >whether or not z/OS will support both non-ascii and ascii at the same time.

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

iam janulin Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input To list;   I am sending this question again as I do not recall receiving a response. I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to accept

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

day, April 10, 2017 10:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input To list; I am sending this question again as I do not recall receiving a response. I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to accept Non-ASCII input.

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

Paul Gilmartin wrote: Like Existential Bug Reports?: https://xkcd.com/1822/ Yeah, I've had to explain things that way at work many times. -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the

Re: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

n 2017-04-10, at 18:51, Jack J. Woehr wrote: > Phil Smith wrote: > >> Those are related but*different*: one is a set of "things", one is a way to >> represent them. > > Computer metaphysics! :) > Like Existential Bug Reports?: https://xkcd.com/1822/

Re: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

Phil Smith wrote: Those are related but*different*: one is a set of "things", one is a way to represent them. Computer metaphysics! :) -- Jack J. Woehr # Science is more than a body of knowledge. It's a way of www.well.com/~jax # thinking, a way of skeptically interrogating the universe

Re: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

>I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to >accept Non-ASCII input. Currently, the system recives ASCII input. Apparently >there is a scenario in IBM developer works to product this UNICODE table. >My question then, if I do this, will z/OS accept both ASCII and

Re: Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

On 4/10/2017 10:47 AM, william janulin wrote: I am sending this question again as I do not recall receiving a response. I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to accept Non-ASCII input. Currently, the system recives ASCII input. Apparently there is a scenario

Fw: z/OS with ASCII and Non-ASCII input

To list;   I am sending this question again as I do not recall receiving a response. I recently received a request to produce a UNICODE table to allow zOS to accept Non-ASCII input. Currently, the system recives ASCII input. Apparently there is a scenario in IBM developer works to product this