Re: 2024 z/OSMF User Survey: We want to hear from you!

2024-05-21 Thread z/OSMF development team
Dear z/OS users, We are reaching out to remind you that the z/OSMF 2024 user survey is currently ongoing and will be ending by the end of May. We kindly request that you take 5-10 minutes of your time to answer the survey questions, if you have not done so already. Your feedback is valuable

2024 z/OSMF User Survey: We want to hear from you!

2024-04-29 Thread z/OSMF development team
Dear z/OS users, Last year, you helped us better understand how you were using z/OSMF for your work and how it could be enhanced in different ways. Since that survey, the z/OSMF team has been working on areas for improvement based on your feedback. To name a few, we removed CIM dependency

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-04-05 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Mark, It turned out something more basic. I had forgotten to add the line in my TCPIP.PROFILE to allow z/OSMF to use port 443. Thanks, Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Charles Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 4:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN

Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-04-03 Thread Mark Charles
I have seen this before. You need to make sure that the Certificate you set up for your production system can also be used on the other system. You can have multiple SANs (IP addresses) defined in the Cert, so add any system that might use the same Cert.

Re: z/osmf missing directory

2024-03-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 3:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] z/osmf missing directory Hi again, Got past my last problem and now while trying to apply UJ93002 to get the 3.1 workflow loaded into the filesystem, the apply failed because /usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade doesn't exist

z/osmf missing directory

2024-03-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi again, Got past my last problem and now while trying to apply UJ93002 to get the 3.1 workflow loaded into the filesystem, the apply failed because /usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade doesn't exist. While I can manually go into the FS and create the directory, I'm concerned that I missed some step that

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-27 Thread Michael Babcock
o2=0x744C7246) > > I do a netstat on port 443 and get this: > > D TCPIP,TCPIP,NETSTAT,ALLCON,PORT=443 > EZZ2500I NETSTAT CS V2R4 TCPIP 496 > USER ID CONN LOCAL SOCKET FOREIGN SOCKET STATE > 0 OF 0 RECORDS DISPLAYED > END OF THE REPORT > > Over on the pro

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
Follow-up and resolution. We found it. “stupid sysprog trick”. I was missing a line in my TCPIP PROFILE member telling it to reserve port 443 for z/OSMF on our test LPAR. I looked at that member in production, even running compares against the one being used for test, about a half dozen

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-27 Thread Pommier, Rex
STATE 0 OF 0 RECORDS DISPLAYED END OF THE REPORT Over on the production LPAR I see that IZUSVR1 is bound to port 443. Within the z/OSMF active config file I see this on the non

Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Babcock
f_file_error > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:28 PM Pommier, Rex > wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. >> Scenario is we're backleveled maintenance-wise on our 2.4 system. We ran >> the secur

Re: security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-26 Thread Michael Babcock
Does this help? https://kinsta.com/knowledgebase/pr-end-of-file-error/#what-causes-the-pr_end_of_file_error On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 6:28 PM Pommier, Rex wrote: > Hi List, > > We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. > Scenario is we're backleveled main

security fun with z/OSMF install - can't get there

2024-03-26 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi List, We are attempting our first foray into getting z/OSMF up and running. Scenario is we're backleveled maintenance-wise on our 2.4 system. We ran the security configuration setup etc and got z/OSMF up and running on the production LPAR we are planning on running it from. However when

Re: z/osmf

2024-02-27 Thread Ward, Mike S
Try here. https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/3.1.0?topic=consider-zos-upgrade-workflows -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Chalk, Shelia Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] z/osmf Please Note: This email

z/osmf

2024-02-27 Thread Chalk, Shelia
Hello, I am wanting to download the z/osmf workflow for z/os 3.1. Can someone send me the link where I can find this? Thanks Shelia Chalk Mainframe System Programmer sch...@ssfcu.org == This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely

Re: Z/OSMF email

2024-02-06 Thread Chalk, Shelia
Nevermind found it Shelia Chalk Mainframe System Programmer sch...@ssfcu.org From: Chalk, Shelia Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2024 3:08 PM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Z/OSMF email Hello, I am looking to setup the z/osmf outgoing email configuration. It has smtp userid and smtp

Z/OSMF email

2024-02-06 Thread Chalk, Shelia
Hello, I am looking to setup the z/osmf outgoing email configuration. It has smtp userid and smtp password. On the screen it says it is required, do I have to put both in there or is there a way I can skip the userid and password? Thanks Shelia Chalk Mainframe System Programmer sch

Re: z/osmf error

2024-01-24 Thread Ramsey Hallman
. z/OSMF could not connect to the DDS or Linux data gatherer at URL address. Reason: reason. Explanation The request failed because z/OSMF could not connect to the Resource Measurement Facility (RMF) Distributed Data Server (DDS) or to the Linux data gatherer located at the specified URL

z/osmf error

2024-01-24 Thread Chalk, Shelia
Hello, I am new to z/osmf. I am getting this error IZUR400E The request could not be completed. z/OSMF could not connect to the DDS or Linux data gatherer at UR Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks Shelia Chalk Mainframe System Programmer sch...@ssfcu.org

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-28 Thread Doug Henry
On Mon, 25 Sep 2023 12:47:21 -0700, Ed Jaffe wrote: >On 9/19/2023 6:39 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: >> Zowe, last I saw, ships an SMP/E install as well as a “convenience” build >> that is basically a pax file. Given that Zowe basically updates on a >> frequent basis the update is basically

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 9/19/2023 6:39 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Zowe, last I saw, ships an SMP/E install as well as a “convenience” build that is basically a pax file. Given that Zowe basically updates on a frequent basis the update is basically replacing the core software so pax is far easier. In my experience

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-20 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I think that it comes down to provenance (is where it came from trusted) as well as a need for support when something goes wrong. The community support is best effort with no warranties. Other vendors like IBM, Rocket and Broadcom are now pre-requing the Zowe and as such they provide support

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-20 Thread Robin Atwood
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF and Zowe I believe you can still order CBIPO, but z/OSMF does (unfortunately) seem to be the way IBM wants everyone to go. I personally disagree with z/OSMF for many reasons (most of them due to overhead and capability restrictions), but mine seems

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-19 Thread Brian Westerman
I believe you can still order CBIPO, but z/OSMF does (unfortunately) seem to be the way IBM wants everyone to go. I personally disagree with z/OSMF for many reasons (most of them due to overhead and capability restrictions), but mine seems to be a waste of breath. :) Any way ZOWE is open

Re: z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-19 Thread Matt Hogstrom
If you want to ship a product that uses Zowe vendors can prereq Zowe. I’d contact Bruce Armstrong at IBM to talk about that. He is involved in the Zowe community and can give some guidance. You can ask questions to the Zowe Community here on their Slack

z/OSMF and Zowe

2023-09-19 Thread Robin Atwood
Would it be correct to say that every shop has z/OSMF installed because that is the only method of updating your system that IBM now supports? Ordering CBPDOs (or whatever they were called) is no longer an option? OTOH, Zowe is an open-source project that the average shop will not be using? So

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-12 Thread Allan Staller
Longfellow Sent: Monday, September 11, 2023 3:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust the sender, Don’t click links or open attachments as it may be a Phishing email, which can steal your

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-11 Thread Tom Longfellow
Thanks Kurt. It is comforting to know that I can still punch my way out of a paper bag. I took the 'clear the catalog' approach for the Dlibs.It was not totally clear sailing. Still haunted by data set decisions and location choices made (literally) decades ago. I am now at the Post

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-11 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
will not be happy) > > Any suggestions? I can't think of anything else besides the options you mention. Sorry. Kurt Quackenbush IBM | z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management | ku...@us.ibm.com Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs. -

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-09 Thread Tom Longfellow
Thanks Kurt.Using Indirect Cataloging did the job for my Target SYSRES datasets. z/OSMF no longer complains. However, this is the first creation of my Dlibs from the Portable Software Instance. They are also intended to have the same names that have been around for (almost) ever

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-08 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Tom, to use your existing master catalog and use existing data set names, have to tell z/OSMF you want indirectly catalog the new target data sets. In the Deployment Configuration wizard, on the Volumes page, select your SYSRES volume and click the Modify action. On the Modify Volume page

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Marna WALLE
to the existing master catalog. If you click on "Help" on that screen, and then "Catalogs" within the help, there are some good pictures which show what will happen with your existing mcat. What is the "Existing master catalog" option there for? To know whether z/O

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Tom Longfellow
Yet another answer to my own post I stripped out everything to do with the Software instances and deployments related to my Zos25 install. I defined an instance for my new deployment This instance was modeled on my ZOS V2R4 install. The source for the instance is the downloaded ShopZ ZFS.

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Tom Longfellow
As always Marna - THANK YOU very much. You are always a treasure trove of information. I am ready to hand the reigns of the temporary HLQ manipulations back to z/OSMF, but am having some difficulties during Job Generation. When I removed my 'unneeded' personal HLQ --- I got 800+ errors

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Marna WALLE
Tom, The job to remove the temporary catalog alias (aka SSA) and rename the data sets to prepare for an IPL is done during the z/OSMF Deployment (not in the Post Deploy Workflow), and is found in the Software Management provided job, IZUD05RN - that's the name that my generated job

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Tom Longfellow
And the battle continues. Ignorance is taking the hits. I am obviously ignorant to the design of the approved 'how to' way to do this. I tried removing the CB. prefix on my dataset names. 800+ error messages later, I found that the Lion cannot digest that. It regurgitates every name that

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Tom Longfellow
ith the 'new' method of Installing things. I went "old school" and modified my dataset names to prepend a HLQ of CB (I still do not know where that came from - me or z/OSMF). What I did not know is that my worthy opponent (which I will now call the Lion) had secret strategi

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
It is created as part of the workflow jobs. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Longfellow Sent: יום ה 07 ספטמבר 2023 12:57 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer I am very familiar with that Job --- I have run it under

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-07 Thread Tom Longfellow
I am very familiar with that Job --- I have run it under ServerPac for a dozen times over the past 20-30 years. What I cannot find now is how to get z/OSMF to generate that JOB for the current software order. I have not been able to find it in the z/OSMF GUI interface

Re: z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-06 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
arc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2023 19:21 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: z/OSMF and the Old Timer I have had a few minor battles with z/OSMF over the years, so my view may be a bit biased. My new z/OS 2.5 install and upgrade is in progress. I have been going t

z/OSMF and the Old Timer

2023-09-06 Thread Tom Longfellow
I have had a few minor battles with z/OSMF over the years, so my view may be a bit biased. My new z/OS 2.5 install and upgrade is in progress. I have been going through all of the apps and workflows. All of my local usermods from V2R4 and before are applied. I am a ServerPac veteran and am

Re: z/OSMF

2023-08-18 Thread Steely.Mark
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush Sent: Friday, August 18, 2023 1:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF CAUTION! EXTERNAL SENDER! STOP, ASSESS, AND VERIFY Do you know this person? Were you expecting this email? If not, report it using

Re: z/OSMF

2023-08-18 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> ... I am trying to download a software instance and z/OSMF has generated the > JCL. > The JCL generated has some values that are not correct - some path's that > were generated either > have my ID inserted with the ID being uppercase - our path names are > lowerc

Re: z/OSMF

2023-08-18 Thread Sri h Kolusu
≫ some path's that were generated either have my ID inserted with the ID being uppercase - our path names are lowercase. Did you check this? Enter values in uppercase, lowercase, or mixed case. The system converts input to uppercase, unless the values are enclosed in single quotation marks,

z/OSMF

2023-08-18 Thread Steely.Mark
We are z/OS V2.4. I am trying to download a software instance and z/OSMF has generated the JCL. The JCL generated has some values that are not correct - some path's that were generated either have my ID inserted with the ID being uppercase - our path names are lowercase. Also one path

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
Subject: Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF] I'm with you on that; I no longer lust after the 12-over/12-under function-key layout. (The rest of the board looks like what I'm used to now anyway.) When I talk about the advantages of the 3270 keyboard, I'm really talking about the tactile feedback

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Seymour J Metz
I can't resist: <https://www.pinterest.com/pin/514747432403434674/>? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, August 7, 2023 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF] LOL,

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Bob Bridges
LOL, isn't there an xkcd about that? I do some remapping too. My numeric keypad, especially, takes on a few of the PF keys, erase-EOF, HOME and a few others. Right, this one I think: https://xkcd.com/1806/. It stuck in my head because whenever a desktop support jock has to connect to my PC

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I'm with you on that; I no longer lust after the 12-over/12-under function-key layout. (The rest of the board looks like what I'm used to now anyway.) When I talk about the advantages of the 3270 keyboard, I'm really talking about the tactile feedback, by which my fingers instantly knew when

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Steve Thompson
I remap , etc. Makes other people have problems when they try to use my keyboard.   :) Steve Thompson On 8/7/2023 2:40 PM, Steve Smith wrote: I think I went down the same mental path as you. Nevertheless, these do claim to be clicky-keyboards similar to 3270s, and if done well, $149 is

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Steve Smith
I think I went down the same mental path as you. Nevertheless, these do claim to be clicky-keyboards similar to 3270s, and if done well, $149 is reasonable. It would be really cool to have original cast iron 3278 keyboards rewired for PCs, but there would be a lot of hurdles to producing them,

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Bob Bridges
Wait, I just googled "3270 keyboards USB" and found this: https://www.twindata.com/3270keyboard.htm But it says "3270-style keyboard", which I'll bet refers to the layout, not the hardware. Hm, or not. "By providing the same layout and heavy duty quality of original IBM terminals, users will

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Steve Thompson
I think they said the price for one (indicating quantity discounts available) was US$149. Steve Thompson On 8/7/2023 1:16 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: I shudder to think of the cost, but yes, I'm interested at least enough to enquire...? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313

Re: Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Bob Bridges
I shudder to think of the cost, but yes, I'm interested at least enough to enquire...? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Well brought-up people have always regarded the tumbril and the scaffold as places for one's best clothes and best manners. -C S Lewis, "De

Keyboards [WAS: z/OSMF]

2023-08-07 Thread Steve Thompson
possible). I use the same glasses for reading books and for dealing with terminals -- I am lucky that they are fairly "weak" glasses. The discussion about z/OSMF? One of these months I will need to spend some time with it. These days I m

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
The slash was an or symbol. Codeset anybody? On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 8:35 AM Phil Smith III wrote: > Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* > > Heh. Different metals, different companies-but both wound up as part of CA > eventually. > > > > >

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Phil Smith III
Wayne Bickerdike wrote: *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?* Heh. Different metals, different companies-but both wound up as part of CA eventually. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Mike Shaw
Platinum is right. We used to carry Platinum Software DB2 utility msgs in the MVS/QuickRef DB. Mike Shaw Chicago-Soft, Ltd. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 4:29 PM Wayne Bickerdike wrote: > *Can anyone remember the major DB2 player was?* > > > *On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:26 AM Edward Gould >

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
*Can anyone remember the major DB2 player was?* *On Mon, Jul 3, 2023 at 8:26 AM Edward Gould <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu <04bcc43af339-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>> wrote:* *Was it Sterling Software/Platinum?*

Re: OT: RE: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 18:25, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Yes, but is every Scots dialect intelligible to every native Scots > speaker, I doubt it; the dialects spoken by people in Shetland and Orkney (the latter right now considering a return to Norwegian rule!) are substantially different from

Re: OT: RE: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll [jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT: RE: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 14:27, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Aggie deri

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread allan winston
and that the joke will > be lost on 49/50ths of the US. > > > > > > Robert Crawford > > > Abstract Evolutions LLC > > > (210) 913-3822 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behal

Re: OT: RE: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 14:27, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Aggie derives from "agricultural school"; I assure you that the English > of, e.g.,Australia, New Zealand, UK, is just as opaque to us. > > Does Scotland have English terms that are understood in some regions > but not all? Well, we have

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Mike Schwab
> > lost on 49/50ths of the US. > > > > Robert Crawford > > Abstract Evolutions LLC > > (210) 913-3822 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of > > Pew, Curtis G > > Sent: Monday, July 3,

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 9:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF Hi Robert, Is the source code available? If yes, how does one get it? Thanks and regards, David On 2023-07-05 09:17, Crawford

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 08:52:41 -0500, Matthew Stitt wrote: >My son got me a keyboard very much like the classic IBM Type "M" for Christmas >a few years ago. It is USB attached and has the name "UNICOMP" on it. I bought two Unicomp buckling-spring keyboards. The first one, purchased in 2013

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread David Spiegel
S. Robert Crawford Abstract Evolutions LLC (210) 913-3822 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pew, Curtis G Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF On Jul 3, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I wa

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Matthew Stitt
t; > numeric keypad (which I do not use) and has good "movement" of the >> > keys that provides a positive feedback for an old guy like me. (The >> > "real" 3270 terminals had great keyboards!) I can deal with the red >> > "mouse control" o

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-05 Thread Walt Farrell
There are a number of hits that seem relevant when I do a search for "android version of dosbox", and once you have dosbox installed you should have access to a bunch of old DOS-based text games, including versions of Colossal Cave, I believe. I have not tried this personally, but I use dosbox

OT: RE: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Seymour J Metz
du/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Jeremy Nicoll [jn.ls.mfrm...@letterboxes.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 5, 2023 9:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 14:17, Crawfor

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Wed, 5 Jul 2023, at 14:17, Crawford Robert C (Contractor) wrote: > In the early 80's we had an adventure game written in PL/1. It was > largely table driven so I added a room full of Texas Aggies. To > retrieve the "treasure," an Aggie Joke book, you had to find a bar of > soap and throw

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
YES!! Robert Crawford Abstract Evolutions LLC (210) 913-3822 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Erickson Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 10:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF PLUGH

Re: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-05 Thread Crawford Robert C (Contractor)
ay, July 3, 2023 1:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXT] Re: z/OSMF On Jul 3, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I was thinking of the old text Adventure written in FORTRAN. You’re talking about the same game. The full name was “Colossal Cave Adventure”, but the program

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I care enough to google it only if someone else cares enough to request that I send them a copy. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* Don't ask yourself what the world needs. Ask yourself what makes you come alive, and go do that, because what the world needs is people

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Bob Bridges wrote: >I have a copy on my phone, but I haven't tried to run it recently. If it >works, I wonder whether there's a way to send a copy, if anyone wants it? You can create a .apk from the app and send that. I have an old Euchre game that's been discontinued and have moved it to

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
0 terminals had great keyboards!) I can deal with the red > > "mouse control" on IBM-designed laptop keyboards when needed, but I > > prefer a "real" mouse (with the center "dial" function, if > > possible). I use the same glasses for reading books and fo

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Bob Bridges
I have a copy on my phone, but I haven't tried to run it recently. If it works, I wonder whether there's a way to send a copy, if anyone wants it? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* even though our political rhetoric is more conservative today, power keeps

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
guy > > like me. (The "real" 3270 terminals had great keyboards!) I can deal with > > the red "mouse control" on IBM-designed laptop keyboards when needed, but I > > prefer a "real" mouse (with the center "dial" function, if possible). I use

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread rpinion865
-designed > laptop keyboards when needed, but I prefer a "real" mouse (with the center > "dial" function, if possible). I use the same glasses for reading books and > for dealing with terminals -- I am lucky that they are fairly "weak" glasses. > The

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread billogden
IBM-designed laptop keyboards when needed, but I prefer a "real" mouse (with the center "dial" function, if possible). I use the same glasses for reading books and for dealing with terminals -- I am lucky that they are fairly "weak" glasses. The discussion about z/OSMF? O

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Laurence Chiu
With the ubiquity of Amazon devices it's likely the OP has one of these (Echo, Dot etc.) Just say Alexa Play Colossal Cave and it will play the game for you. XYZZY :-) On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 6:19 AM Mike Schwab wrote: > Install Linux on Android, 3270 emulator, Turkey 4-, then the games? > > On

Re: Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Mike Schwab
Install Linux on Android, 3270 emulator, Turkey 4-, then the games? On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 12:09 PM Phil Smith III wrote: > > Y'all might think about changing subject lines occasionally. ;) > > > > Alas, the Colossal Cave seems to not be compatible with current Android > versions. I take that

Colossal Cave on Android (was: Re: z/OSMF)

2023-07-04 Thread Phil Smith III
Y'all might think about changing subject lines occasionally. ;) Alas, the Colossal Cave seems to not be compatible with current Android versions. I take that to mean the developer has lost interest. Too bad; seemed like a nice blast from the past time-waster!

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread Tom Brennan
LOL haven't heard that since I was a kid watching a b/w TV. On 7/4/2023 1:06 AM, rpinion865 wrote: What about Pimento University, good old PU. Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On Jul 4, 2023, 7:32 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: LOL On 7/3/2023 8:30 PM, Eric Erickson

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-04 Thread rpinion865
What about Pimento University, good old PU. Sent from Proton Mail mobile Original Message On Jul 4, 2023, 7:32 AM, Tom Brennan wrote: > LOL On 7/3/2023 8:30 PM, Eric Erickson wrote: > PLUGH! > > > -- > For >

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Tom Brennan
LOL On 7/3/2023 8:30 PM, Eric Erickson wrote: PLUGH! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Tom Brennan
No, community college in Southern California, almost free at the time. On 7/3/2023 8:15 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: Yes, about that year for me too, and at a university. Not A State U in Greensboro, NC, by any chance? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* What fills the

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Eric Erickson
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Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Bob Bridges
Yes, about that year for me too, and at a university. Not A State U in Greensboro, NC, by any chance? --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* What fills the eye fills the heart. -Celtic proverb We begin by coveting what we see every day. -Hannibal Lecter in "Silence of

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Tom Brennan
Same here, ADVEN on a DEC 10 running TOPS-10, around 1979. One college instructor told us to play it and said, "Let them play games, and that will get them interested." On 7/3/2023 12:05 PM, Bob Bridges wrote: Ah, yes, I remember now, we invoked it using ADVEN on the PDP-10, which used

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
ason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF I once spent a pleasurable few days hacking (or rather trying to hack) Colossa

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Bob Bridges
I once spent a pleasurable few days hacking (or rather trying to hack) Colossal Cave's "magic mode". The DEC-10 machine at the college I worked at back then had very little security; I could a program and then examine the machine code at leisure. I got quite a few steps into the rather lengthy

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bob Bridges [robhbrid...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 3:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF Ah, yes, I remember now, we in

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Bob Bridges
Ah, yes, I remember now, we invoked it using ADVEN on the PDP-10, which used 36-bit words and 7-bit ASCII (hence 5 chars per word). I, too, mapped out the whole thing back in the late '70s, and I too have forgotten most of it since then. I well remember struggling to figure out the puzzle of

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Jul 3, 2023, at 1:26 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote: I was thinking of the old text Adventure written in FORTRAN. You’re talking about the same game. The full name was “Colossal Cave Adventure”, but the program file name was usually as many characters of “ADVENTURE” as the system supported.

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
I was thinking of the old text Adventure written in FORTRAN. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 2:23 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF LOL! Did you know Colossal Cave is now

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Bob Bridges
LOL! Did you know Colossal Cave is now available on Android? I got myself a copy, intending to map it all out, but so far I'm still exploring the forest on the surface. Haven't played it in decades. Maybe I should introduce it to my grandchildren. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com,

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
ObNotAdventure You are in a maze of twisty keyboards, all different. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Mike Schwab Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF 10-11 in laptops generally have 90

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Mike Schwab
converged key layout, a > mini trackball and the keys at the front of the keyboard? > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of > Bob Bridges > Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 10:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subj

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
AT or converged key layout, a mini trackball and the keys at the front of the keyboard? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Bob Bridges Sent: Monday, July 3, 2023 10:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/OSMF Apparently I used to have

Re: z/OSMF

2023-07-03 Thread Bob Bridges
I used laptops for years because of travel, but I never used their screens or keyboards at home. I plug a real screen and a real keyboard into the laptop, oh yes and a real trackball too. Laptops are marvelous inventions, but there's no need to put up with their limitations. --- Bob Bridges,

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