I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a
printer. The other records in the dataset contain information to control
the printer, e.g. advance the paper, but do not print lines. In other
words, they do not cost ink and therefore should not be charged to the
customer. In
Mike Schwab wrote:
SORTWK does not use secondary extents.
Really? Where is that documented? Just curious, because my jobs and jobs and
still more jobs are using dozen SORTWKxx gazillion times everyday...
John McKown wrote:
I decided to ask this forum about a problem we have were I work. In
Frank,
The way I would approach this for sharing data between two address spaces with
IARVSERV is as follows :
(1) Before the IARVSERV is issued by the source owning program (in ASID #1) ,
the target view program (in ASID #2) must obtain the storage area that is
going to be used to get the
On Monday 10 September 2012 03:11:09 Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
MS-Windows is such a POS that they need to concentrate on it. Makes me
wonder why they adore it.
POS? Please explain, I got 96 useless hits from AcronymFinder.com ...
POS = Piece Of S**t
I might guess quick enough to raise Service request with IBM to HSM L2 Team
provide you the patch ..
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POS? Please explain, I got 96 useless hits from AcronymFinder.com ...
POS = Piece Of S**t
Ah, yes, many thanks for clearing out my murky brain. ;-D
So it is 'P*ssed Of Soldiers' using 'Piece of S**t' while walking the 'Path Of
Sorrows'? [1] :-D
Thanks, Leslie, it
These are ALC macros, but, since you have the disk volsers, they can be
used.
From the manual DFSMSdfp Advanced Services, Document Number SC26-7400-10
Look at OBTAIN and CVAF.
K. Kripke
kkri...@mindspring.com
To complement: you no more need to specify SORTWK statements - DFSORT
will do it for you. (sometimes you can/should specify/change default
number of volumes)
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Lodz, Poland
W dniu 2012-09-10 12:25, Brian Fraser pisze:
SORTWK will use multiple extents, but it cannot use
Ref: z/os V1R13.0 DFSMS Using Data Sets, SC26-7410-11
This has the structure of a PDS Directory Block.
Since you will be most likely be using QSAM to process, the first half word
will contain the maximum number of bytes used in the directory block. You
won't see the COUNT and KEY fields of
Thank you Mark for this very honest answer
Those of us who tried, and those of us who got the bills from both world, know
better than have a definite answer
It is quite funny to see that people very often speak of a single engine IFL
machine and compare it to a several core x86 installation
W dniu 2012-09-10 13:29, Bruno Sugliani pisze:
[...]
I do not believe anyone
here would run production on a single engine box or run Dev and Test
on that single engine machine. [...]
Well, I ran *two* production LPARs plus dev LPAR plus sandbox LPAR on
*single* CPU. Later, we've had two
John,
Shouldn't you be looking at the sort manuals instead of SMS? How many
sortwknn files are allocated is a function of the sort software not SMS.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: John McKown [joa...@swbell.net]
Sent: Sunday, September
Having been forced to order zOSMF, does one install it in the z/OS zones or in
its own zones?
I recommend installing z/OSMF in the z/OS zones. I know there are
++IFREQs in some z/OSMF PTFs for FMIDs in z/OS. If not installed in the
same zone, be sure to use SMP/E's cross zone requisite
IIRC, SORTWKnn cannot span volumes. It can handle secondary extents.
Also with regards to sort, I believe that DFSORT can dynamically allocate the
necessary SORTWKnn file.
SYNCSORT *DEFINITELY* can.
HTH,
snip
SORTWK does not use secondary extents.
Really? Where is that documented? Just
I agree with Skip, and Mark. However, we used to do an all inclusive
ServerPack that was our entire book of IBM software excluding CICS and DB2.
We found that WAS (NOT OEMWAS) is a different animal, with requirements to keep
multiple versions around at the same time, so that is a product we
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:35 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a
printer. The other records in the dataset contain information to control
the printer, e.g. advance the paper, but do not print lines. In other
words, they do not
Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote in message
news:7694071195605590.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu...
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:35 +0200, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM wrote:
I think JES2 considers a line literally as a line to be printed on a
printer. The other records in the dataset
For very large sorts we place SYSWK files on model 27 volumes as follows:-
//SORTWK01 DD UNIT=3390,VOL=SER=??,SPACE=(CYL,32700),DSNTYPE=LARGE
.
.
.
.
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Of John McKown
Sent: 10 September
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:03:31 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
In this case it is WAD if you want to find the entries in any of the
PDS and PDS(E) Libraries in the concatenation ignoring any HFS
libraries encountered (and if the same name occurs in more than one
library, return the first one
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp
on this server.
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an
ErrorDocument to handle the request.
_
Dave
It would seem so. I got the exact same message.
Bob
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:25 AM
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Subject: IBMLINK down?
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You don't
It is now working back on my workstation. It happened this early morning
though.
SC lee
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Of Richards, Robert B.
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 10:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
I keep trying and get in after a while.
John
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Of Richards, Robert B.
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:28 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: IBMLINK down?
It would seem so. I
Paul Gilmartin's point---that consistent values among DDLIST, DESERV,
and BLDL outputs is desirable---is important. Its importance would
indeed be hard to exaggerate.
Moreover, the time for jibbing at mixed-case values in reporting
contexts is long past. They are not, as they should be, usable
Clark Morris is entitled to have and to express his [not at all
disinterested] views.
His question
begin snippet
Does i-o on system z take less cpu and memory resource than i-o on
Intel servers?, p servers?
end snippet/
is, however, challenging to this entitlement.
The answer to this question
Hello,
I am looking for someone who might be able to read a 1600BPI tape.
preference in Europe and Norway.
There might be chance to recover the source code of the oldest
OO language system:http://www.edelweb.fr/Simula/
Any help is appreciated, please answer directly to me.
Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or
jobstep to see a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I
looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming
technique that would work? The politics are such that writing code is a more
On 9/10/2012 10:14 AM, Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
The answer to this question is yes. z/Architecture channel-based I/O
is very different from that used by, for example, Intel servers. In
particular it uses many fewer cp[u] cycles, and its permits many
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:34:33 +, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:
I was able to get to SR via this link:
http://www.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/
That is the SR link. SR is fine. When I selected passport advantage from
there I get the same You don't have permission... error.
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:03:28 -0700, Charles Mills wrote:
Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or
jobstep to see a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I
looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming
technique that would
Look at the product Hourglass. It was used for Y2K but allows any application
on a mainframe (TSO, CICS, DB2, Batch, etc) to use any time for that one
job/task.
It belonged to Princeton Softech. However I believe that IBM purchased it
Lizette
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:03:28 -0700, Charles
On 9/10/2012 at 10:31 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
On 4 Sep 2012 08:12:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On 9/3/2012 at 05:05 PM, Richard Hintz rjhi...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you have something or can point me to something that shows comparative
metrics for
My personal philosophy is that computers are better than humans, in general,
dealing with these kinds of things.
In any case, here are our DFSORT customizations in our ICEPRMxx member:
JCL
DYNALOC=(SYSDA,12)
DYNAUTO=YES
MSGDDN=SYSOUT
For your own sanity, set this up in a batch job, instead of executing the
commands online in TSO. I own security on my TECH sandbox systems, meaning I
get to replace each SMPE user's certificate once a year. Same process every
year, they get a new cert and sent to me, I upload, replacing the
Charles,
The process intercepts teh STCK instruction. Not sure if that is something you
want to do.
Lizette
Thanks.
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/hourglass/features/
I'd still be better off politically with a hack solution than a vendor
product (even vendor = IBM).
Have not
Sounds exciting!
(Exciting is not generally a good thing in the mainframe world LOL.)
Thanks again,
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:06 AM
To:
Lynn's most recent response is unsatisfactory, in substance evasive.
Let us for the sake of the argument stipulate, though this is not
usually the case, that some non-mainframe server can perform some
single I/O operation faster than some mainframe.
It turns out that this stipulation does not
On 9/10/2012 12:24 PM, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:34:33 +, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:
I was able to get to SR via this link:
http://www.ibm.com/support/servicerequest/
That is the SR link. SR is fine. When I selected passport advantage from
there I get
Charles - I believe you may be able to use some of the LE parms to set a TZ=
variable. (Not tested here as we don't run systems on multiple timezones). Look
at the settings / overrides for LE for more information
Jerry Whitteridge
Lead Systems Programmer
Safeway Inc.
925 951 4184
If you feel
You should add your POS definition to its data base if they allow
reader-submitted edits. If not, Wikipedia certainly will.
Bill Fairchild
Programmer
Rocket Software
408 Chamberlain Park Lane • Franklin, TN 37069-2526 • USA
t: +1.617.614.4503 • e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com • w:
Good idea. My target *might* be an LE program and *might* honor TZ -- I
don't know. I will run a test.
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:42 AM
To:
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:06:17 -0700, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:
The process intercepts teh STCK instruction. Not sure if that is something
you want to do.
Which implies to me that it offsets GMT as well as local time,
likely something the OP, who ever he is, does not
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:19:53 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
BTW, I saw a quote from an earlier message, but not the message
itself, talking about reading directory blocks from a PDSE. For the
record, those are not the actual PDSE directory blocks[1][2] but fake
blocks made to look like
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On Behalf Of Charles Mills
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 1:29 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?
Which implies to me that
Anyone on this list have Hogan experience? I can spell it, that's about it -
but I have some VERY basic questions. Please contact me off-list if you'd be
willing to exchange a couple of emails about it. I'll buy you a beer at SCIDS...
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Yow!
Necessary but not sufficient. You would need to catch the TIME macro as well,
and the various HLL library calls.
I'm sorry I asked :-(
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Monday,
Back in the olden days programmers would pass a 'DATE' parm. If it was
omitted
they would issue a WTOR for Enter Date: One of the weekend operators did-
DA:TE:MF So much for edit checksNSF was not amused to find their annual
funding report formatted in this manner!
In a message dated
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but is there a way in LE COBOL to capture a
'C x' operator command, where x is a STC.
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Sep 10, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote:
Back in the olden days programmers would pass a 'DATE' parm. If
Then don't! :-)
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Scott Ford
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 4:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Possible to run a jobstep with a different timezone?
I don't mean
We went around on this a couple of weeks ago. I think the answer was only
indirectly with a STAE or ESTAE (which will in turn potentially make LE
unhappy).
Charles
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Scott Ford
Sent:
Ways other than STCK/STCKE for getting time involve an SVC, or calling a
system service, or calling a subsystem service (CICS), where
front-ending the service is an obvious approach -- probably why the
question was raised specifically on how a hardware instruction like STCK
could be handled
glen herrmannsfeldt g...@ugcs.caltech.edu writes:
For unix/dos/windows file systems, though, there needs to be a disk
cache where FBA blocks are brought into memory and the appropriate
bytes copied to user space. Now, the caching ability of that likely
helps much of the time, but it isn't so
oops, late 80s is 25yrs ago ... not 35yrs ... finger slip.
in the 80s, it was recognized that the half-duplex channel paradigm (not
just ibm mainframe) ... introduced a lot of end-to-end latency overhead
chatter. there were several serial, asynchronous efforts launched in the
late 80s ... all
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 18:20:46 -0500, Joel C. Ewing wrote:
Ways other than STCK/STCKE for getting time involve an SVC, or calling a
system service, or calling a subsystem service (CICS), where
front-ending the service is an obvious approach -- probably why the
question was raised specifically on
On 10 Sep 2012 08:11:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Clark Morris is entitled to have and to express his [not at all
disinterested] views.
His question
begin snippet
Does i-o on system z take less cpu and memory resource than i-o on
Intel servers?, p servers?
end snippet/
is,
At 09:03 -0700 on 09/10/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Possible to
run a jobstep with a different timezone?:
What do shops do that have LPARs that serve users in multiple time zones
They tell the ZOS that runs in the LPAR what TimeZone it is to assume
it is in. IOW: All LPARs have their
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:19:12 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote:
At 09:03 -0700 on 09/10/2012, Charles Mills wrote about Possible to
run a jobstep with a different timezone?:
What do shops do that have LPARs that serve users in multiple time zones
They tell the ZOS that runs in the LPAR what
On 10 September 2012 12:03, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
Is there a technique, statement or utility that will cause a program or
jobstep to see a different timezone? I recall you could do this in VSE. I
looked at the CBT tape and did not find anything. Is there a programming
technique
John,
Mate, when you restore a volume with COPYVOLID, and there is a volume online
with the same volser, the restored volume will be taken offline as described
elsewhere in this thread.
Just like when you try to vary a duplicate volser online, the original
volume is unaffected by the restore,
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:04:53 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
If you know that your target program uses only the TIME macro, and
that it's the default (SVC) form, which is commonly true of
traditional application programs, then you could set up SVC Screening
to catch those TIMEs, and edit the results
Bruno Sugliani writes:
I do not believe anyone here would run production on a single
engine box or run Dev and Test on that single engine machine.
Almost everyone here would. These are mainframes, with PR/SM and LPARs
proven to Common Criteria EAL5+ certification standards. Regardless of the
Yeah, your right , sorry been a week
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:
We went around on this a couple of weeks ago. I think the answer was only
indirectly with a STAE or ESTAE (which will in turn potentially make LE
unhappy).
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