Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Nguyen Duc
Dear all, I am a DB2 specialist , doing some measurements i just noticed that there is a noticeable difference between DB2 CPU times i got from SMF30, and the times i got from the DB2 statistics records (SMF100) about the CPU consumption of DB2 address spaces. I submitted the question to

Re: REXX exec, To compile or not to compile

2013-08-08 Thread Thomas Berg
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ze'ev Atlas Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 5:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: REXX exec, To compile or not to compile Yes if you have a lot of rexx-pure executing

Re: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Nguyen Duc wrote: ...doing some measurements i just noticed that there is a noticeable difference between DB2 CPU times i got from SMF30, and the times i got from the DB2 statistics records (SMF100) about the CPU consumption of DB2 address spaces. With excel , the 2 graphs are parallel , so

Re: RACF User ID resumed without an SMF record?

2013-08-08 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Greg, If the RACF database is shared across several LPARs, does the input to your daily RACFRW report include SMF data from all the LPARs? If SETROPTS AUDIT is not active for class USER and the OWNER of this CICS ID is a non-SPECIAL USERID, the later could execute an ALTUSER that wouldn't be

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 2883356613158771.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/07/2013 at 08:34 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Alas, IBM developers abandoned this paradigm. One writes to the operator's console not using QSAM, but WTO; one writes to the TSO terminal not using QSAM to

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 00d501ce937a$2c525710$84f70530$@mcn.org, on 08/07/2013 at 10:26 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: You know, IMHO IBM blew it when the 31-bit thing came along and they came up with a bunch of design patches to QSAM like the DBCE. I disagree; I consider the DCB approach superior to

Re: OT? IBM licenses POWER architecture to other vendors.

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 12eafe94-906a-4d41-99a7-574060371...@austin.utexas.edu, on 08/07/2013 at 09:22 PM, Pew, Curtis G curtis@austin.utexas.edu said: I don't have strong feelings about any particular architecture, but I do think we all have a compelling interest that the number of common, commercially

Re: OT? IBM licenses POWER architecture to other vendors.

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4781768291563977.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/07/2013 at 04:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: And I had been misled by chatter I had heard, possibly about the ECLipz endeavor, the rebuttal of which I failed to notice, to misbelieve the z has Power at its

Re: REXX exec, To compile or not to compile

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 6599134786195468.wa.zatlas1yahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/07/2013 at 10:24 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com said: I wanted to ask, where is EXECIO in the picture and how is it compares with using stream EXECIO is a REXX-aware TSO command; it has higher overhead than equivalent stream

Re: RACF User ID resumed without an SMF record?

2013-08-08 Thread Greg Shirey
Yes, if we had the time, we would rewrite the job to use the output from IRRDBU00 instead of parsing LU * output. We'll probably have the time when IBM changes the output, of course. :-) In any case, thanks to those who made suggestions here and off-list. The problem does appear to be in

Re: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Charles Mills
Do you know that there is a DB2-specific mailing list where lots of serious DB2 performance heavyweights hang out? I believe the enrollment process is to go to www.idug.org and join IDUG. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Re: OT? IBM licenses POWER architecture to other vendors.

2013-08-08 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: The wiki chip articles since at least Z196 have been about the entire processor complex rather than about the chips themselves. I wish that some of the IBM chip designers would be willing to take on the task of editing those articles.

Is there a TSS mailing list?

2013-08-08 Thread Charles Mills
X-posted to IBM-MAIN and ACF2-L. Is there a mailing list for CA Top Secret? Alternatively, is ACF2-L suitable for TSS questions? Thanks, Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: Is there a TSS mailing list?

2013-08-08 Thread Tony Babonas
At one time there was a sprinkling of traffic on this list, maybe 10 per month. I haven't seen any in a long time so I'd probably utilize IBM-MAIN for TS issues. I'd avoid RACF-L unless the issue has a direct relationship to RACF, i.e. conversion or dual/hybrid administration. On

Re: Is there a TSS mailing list?

2013-08-08 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 11:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Is there a TSS mailing list? On 8 August 2013 10:34, Charles Mills

Re: OT? IBM licenses POWER architecture to other vendors.

2013-08-08 Thread Bob Shannon
however, claim is that at least half of the z196 per processor improvement over z10 was introduction of out-of-order execution, branch prediction, speculative executive Those features are important to systems performance, but I submit that most of the improvement was probably due to the

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:43:41 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Alas, IBM developers abandoned this paradigm. One writes to the operator's console not using QSAM, but WTO; one writes to the TSO terminal not using QSAM to SYSTSPRT, but TPUT. Actually, they DTRT in *those* cases, IMHO.

Re: REXX exec, To compile or not to compile

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 08:46:27 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I wanted to ask, where is EXECIO in the picture and how is it compares with using stream EXECIO is a REXX-aware TSO command; it has higher overhead than equivalent stream facilities, but some EXECIO facilities, e.g., stems, do

ENC: How GET a Return Code from a Caller.

2013-08-08 Thread Sérgio Lima Costa
Hello List. Sorry about this STUPID question. Now is ok... REXX ONE: /* */ Trace r duas parametro say rc exit REXX TWO IS THE SAME... RESULT... Ready; T=0.01/0.01 13:21:38 UMA 3 *-* duas parametro DUAS PARAMETRO 3 *-* arg argumento PARAMETRO 4 *-* say

determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread Tim Brown
What command displays the sysplex name in use ? Thanks, Tim Brown Supervisor Computer Operations Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: tbr...@cenhud.commailto:tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Cell: 845-235-4255

Re: determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread John McKown
The z/OS operator command: d symbols will do it. It is a static system symbol. Or run a batch job with SYSPLEX in the JCL somewhere and look at the output. On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote: What command displays the sysplex name in use ? Thanks, Tim Brown

Re: determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread Srivastava, Rajesh
Issue D xcf from SDSF. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Brown Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 12:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: determine sysplex name in use What command displays the sysplex name in

Re: determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 8 Aug 2013 16:23:33 +, Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com wrote: What command displays the sysplex name in use ? Multiple ways, but I would probably just use D XCF. If you are looking for a TSO command, you need something home grown to look at symbols or variables in ISPF.One

Re: ENC: How GET a Return Code from a Caller.

2013-08-08 Thread Rich Greenberg
Answered several times on VM list. -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val,Red,Shasta,Zero,Casey Cinnar (At the bridge) Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Max

Re: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Mike Bell
There is a basic issue with DB2 statistics for CPU - they start with the first SQL statement. Everything that happens before that is not recorded in the DB2 cpu times. This is WAD. There used to be some presentations on what was included in DB2 cpu and why. I haven't looked for them in a long

Re: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Barry Merrill
In general, there will be very little CPU time recorded in the DB2 Address Spaces, except for the DDR address space, because CPU time consumed in DB2 is recorded in the address space OF THE CALLER, i.e., the Batch Job or the CICS region that called DB2, so the SMF 101 (DB2ACCT) data is the only

Re: determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Mark's IPLINFO REXX is excellent, both for what it does and for showing what can be done in REXX. Best of all is the price. Standard disclaimers: This is a personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the opinion of my employer. Chris Blaicher Principal Software Engineer, Software

R: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread Fabio Massimo Ottaviani
Hi all This is a snapshot of a paper I wrote a couple of years ago. May be it can help ... Unfortunately I could not attach the graph because of List rules but results using SMF 100 are just a little bit lower than using SMF 30 OR 72. Best regards Fabio DB2 overhead for MSTR, DBM1 and

Re: determine sysplex name in use

2013-08-08 Thread Sri h Kolusu
The easiest way is to issue WHO command at SDSF prompt which gives you user attributes and SYSPLEX name is one of them. It can even be issued from REXX. SDSF Operation and Customization manual explains the command in detail

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 5499902479450252.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 08/08/2013 at 11:07 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: On Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:43:41 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: Alas, IBM developers abandoned this paradigm. One writes to the operator's console not using

Re: ENC: How GET a Return Code from a Caller.

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In f28830408fdcde42acac8c31480ced5988de7c4...@srvexchsp01.cetip.com.br, on 08/08/2013 at 01:24 PM, Sérgio Lima Costa sergio.co...@cetip.com.br said: Sorry about this STUPID question. It would help if you put the question up front and identified the code of duas. For a REXX function or

Re: R: Differences between CPU values from SMF30 and DB2 stats

2013-08-08 Thread efinnell15
Guess you could post a link or tinyurl where the paper could be found? In a message dated 08/08/13 12:39:40 Central Daylight Time, fabio.ottavi...@epvtech.com writes: Unfortunately I could not attach the graph because of List rules but results using SMF 100 are just a little bit lower than

Re: How GET a Return Code from a Caller.

2013-08-08 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sergio - you posted to both IBMMAIN and z/VM newsgroups. Are you doing this under z/VM? Or z/OS? Each environment will behave differently Lizette PS No question is stupid. Repeating it over and over and expecting different results - might be. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available

2013-08-08 Thread Marna WALLE
Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I thought I would bring to your attention something. It's different. We've tried a new format for the book, which I'm hoping will make it easier to read. We've divided up the chapters into which migration path you are

Re: RACF User ID resumed without an SMF record?

2013-08-08 Thread Greg Shirey
On Thursday, Aug 08, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Robert S. Hansel wrote: If the RACF database is shared across several LPARs, does the input to your daily RACFRW report include SMF data from all the LPARs? No, we have only one LPAR. 1) Do you have SETROPTS INACTIVE set and to what number of days?

Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available

2013-08-08 Thread Brian France
Howdy Marna, I like it so far. I thru the chapter 1 and 2, starting 3. Did not even print out chapter 4. Saved some trees that way. And yes, sorry, I still need to print, highlite and note take with pen and highlighter. On 8/8/2013 5:51 PM, Marna WALLE wrote: Hi All, Since you

Re: C issue - 'struct stat'

2013-08-08 Thread Ze'ev Atlas
I thought about what you guys have told me and realized that while you are correct and it is easy to just run the configuration, etc., the work I've done (shortening the functions' names to 8, upper case characters, COBOL API, etc.) is very valuable to those who are still in that environment.

Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available

2013-08-08 Thread Louis Losee
The migration specific format is nice, however, for online reading the dual columns cause the reader to constanly page up and down to read each page. On Aug 8, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Marna WALLE mwa...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi All, Since you mentioned the z/OS V2,1 Migration book being available, I

Re: The z/OS V2.1 Migration PDF available

2013-08-08 Thread Timothy Sipples
I haven't checked yet, so I don't know it's already there. It'd be nice to have a brief chapter in the migration guide that explicitly lists/points to all the previous migration guides that one ought to review for migrations from any/every arbitrary release pre-z/OS 1.12 to z/OS 2.1. That would be

Re: How GET a Return Code from a Caller.

2013-08-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 013401ce947c$eba46c40$c2ed44c0$@mindspring.com, on 08/08/2013 at 02:19 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said: Sergio - you posted to both IBMMAIN and z/VM newsgroups. Are you doing this under z/VM? Or z/OS? Each environment will behave differently There shouldn't be any

Multiple timezones?

2013-08-08 Thread Donald Russell
zVM 6.1 (6.2 coming) The system runs with a UTC timezone, but it would be convenient if I had a userid that could run in a different time zone. UTC doesn't change with Daylight Saving Time, and I have a process I want to schedule at a specific time that is subject to DST changes. i.e. I want