That was what we originally though too, but our local IBM support person
told us we couldn't. Thinking further about configuration activities to
migrate to mixed CTN mode, I'm not seeing how on the non STP capable
processor we're going to be able to set the name of the mixed CTN, since
it isn't
In 2110692851.22284.1391697210141.javamail.r...@comcast.net, on
02/06/2014
at 02:33 PM, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net said:
I have written oodles of code that scan TIOTs, which almost always
ran in key eight, and I never got a S0C4 in that code, so I
cannot believe that the TIOT is
In 52f3a21e.1080...@trainersfriend.com, on 02/06/2014
at 07:54 AM, Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com said:
Well, technically, yes: it can, however, contain program objects
which are the PDSE analogy of load modules in a PDS.
Analog, yes, but with a very different structure. Code that
In
CAE6x8Q6u0p0-CXOnkOv=qp9uhfqm3uasggomnug5_c4dgob...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/06/2014
at 04:11 PM, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com said:
I hate having these PTFs in my SMPPTS that every time I install an
RSU the APPLY tries to install this PTF again, and I spend more
time researching why the
In bc6b7b77ef4d5e4bb95b0559a0d6d5e10531ce9...@mx3.state.nv.us, on
02/06/2014
at 01:17 PM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov said:
Or am I way off base?
At least partially. On a simulated 3390 a cylinder boundary may not
tell you much about seek time, but it can still have an effect on
On Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:03:28 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote:
We're replacing a z196 processor with a
z10 without the STP feature, and we need to have one zOS 1.13 lpar
that's hosted there join the sysplex
Pretty well defined. Other users (customers) offered help/suggestions.
What is the corporate line
In 52f40ffb.4090...@lerctr.org, on 02/06/2014
at 02:43 PM, Ray Mullins m...@lerctr.org said:
It seems like conversion/interpretation has skipped the fact that I'm
not overriding the second DD in the concatenation and is generating
a data set name, instead of noting that it's a blank DD and
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ward, Mike S mw...@ssfcu.org wrote:
John McKown It also gives our end users the idea that z/OS is incapable
of easy to use data access. John, what do you mean by this statement?
The problem with data access here is that _all_ our data is stored in
VSAM KSDS
In
29b16432403d6c45a9bee5f0302d191721438...@vss-exchmb1.sfg.corp.LOCAL,
on 02/06/2014
at 10:42 PM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com said:
Let me ask a general question about IBM packaging. Does IBM ever
send a fixing PTF with a PRE(PE-PTF) instead of a SUP(PE-PTF)?
Often.
--
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
Also curious about the It also gives our end users the idea that z/OS is
incapable of easy to use data access remark, John.
If you're a keen or semi-keen observer of the IT world, relational
databases are extremely
I hate having these PTFs in my SMPPTS that every time I install an
RSU the APPLY tries to install this PTF again, and I spend more
time researching why the PTF didn't APPLY.
Then stop researching them. The ones to worry about are the ACTION and
DOC holds.
I completely agree. If a PTF cannot
... Or do what I do and
build the exclude list required to get RC=0.
Why even spend the time to do that? The result is the same, the PTFs
don't get applied.
Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development
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I should probably go through the GLOBAL, identify all of these forlorn
lost souls, and put them out of their everlasting misery via REJECT.
The often neglected NOFMID DELETEFMID form of REJECT is your friend
here... if or when you decide to address that loose end.
Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM,
As I commented recently in another thread, in the ICKDSF manual there is a
table of MAXVTOC/MAXVTOCIX sizes in :
Calculating the size of the VTOC index in appendix C of ICKDSF Users Guide
GC35-0033-39.
Unfortunately, there is no reference to the size of the VVDS required to
support a
bottom posting
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From: Robert A. Rosenberg [mailto:hal9...@panix.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 11:10 PM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Cc: Pommier, Rex
Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question
At 22:42 + on 02/06/2014, Pommier, Rex wrote about Re: Dumb SMPE
ISTR that all time references in a SYSPLEX must be within a certain tolerance
(I have no recollection of the actual value).
If the local time source exceeded this tolerance, the ETR (STP/9037) would
guide them to the same value, or failing that , remove the system from the plex.
The act of
In my opinion you may run into some interesting issues with timestamped
stuff in the CFs and whatnot if the times start coming in a slightly
unpredictable sequence. I don't think I'd take that risk.
When we migrated from ETR to mixed to all STP CTN, the key was two
machines were ETR and had
Ray,
Just out of curiosity, would it work if you added a third DD card to the
original SYSLPARM DD concatenation? The JCL ref manual doesn't explicitly
state the override needs something to override, but it might be worth a try.
Can you try something like:
//SYSLPARM DD
As I recall it, all time references in a sysplex must be within a certain
tolerance and this is ensured by requiring them to be connected to a single
time source (ETR ID), not 2 sources that are equal within a certain tolerance.
Kees.
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I have been doing a little research and looking at the z/OS 1.13's z/OS MVS
JCL User's Guide it turns out you can code in-stream data in a JES2
procedure and I am going to assume you can't with JES3, but to do so, DO NOT
use the // DD * use instead // DD DATA.
So I am going to amend my
On 02/06/2014 05:42 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In bc6b7b77ef4d5e4bb95b0559a0d6d5e10531ce9...@mx3.state.nv.us, on
02/06/2014
at 01:17 PM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov said:
Or am I way off base?
At least partially. On a simulated 3390 a cylinder boundary may not
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:58:53 +, Nims,Alva John (Al) wrote:
I have been doing a little research and looking at the z/OS 1.13's z/OS MVS
JCL User's Guide it turns out you can code in-stream data in a JES2
procedure and I am going to assume you can't with JES3, but to do so, DO NOT
use the //
How about a weekly (or daily) scheduled download for the users to do
ad hoc queries?
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:25 AM, John McKown
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:01 AM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote:
Also curious about the It also gives our end users the
Mike,
Our company uses SYSB almost exactly as John McKown described how it is used at
his company. We have one production CICS region and we see its CPU utilization
percentage rise when multiple jobs using SYSB are running.
As Systems Programmers, we have to be mindful of how our
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
I would be astonished if for the matter here // DD DATA were not the
functional equivalent of // DD *.
-- gil
// DD DATA,DLM='##' (is the default /*?)
//* jcl statements of your choice.
##
Just the same except it
We do things like that. But it does not refute the z/OS is hard to get
data out of thoughts because it induces the see, if data access on z/OS
were easy, we'd have access to _current_ data and not need to be doing all
this data duplication into an easy to access system like MS SQL Server.
#1. Yes, /* is the default End-of-Data for both DD * and DD DATA, but
with DD DATA you can include records that begin with // and that is why
most people will code the DLM= to explicitly change the End-of-Data.
#2. Is DD DATA a functional equivalent to DD *? I guess we could give that
both a
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 10:09:34 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote:
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I would be astonished if for the matter here // DD DATA were not the
functional equivalent of // DD *.
-- gil
// DD DATA,DLM='##' (is the default /*?)
//* jcl statements of your
For TN3270 the table is not in VTAM. I put the USS table in linklst and do a v
tcpip,tn3270,obeyfile command and , if necessary, an LLA update/refresh command
to change it.
Cliff McNeill
List;
I compiled a new USSTAB for use with TN3270. I am attempting to refresh
VTAM/TN3270
So current IBM management looks like they're trying to break the company into a
bunch of smaller companies like Akers(?) tried to do several years ago???
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of John McKown
Sent: Friday,
I do not mean use space of disk but the disk size in cylinders.
thanks,
Shai
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Nah, just the same-old, same-old -- if a line of business doesn't have high
enough margins or the potential for same, get rid of it. That's been the
mantra in Armonk for a long, long time.
I forget which IBM CEO it was who promised share owners at an annual meeting
(or was it a stock analysts
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 13:55:27 +, Pommier, Rex wrote:
That depends on if the fix PTF contains all the elements in the
PE-PTF or only some of them. If it contains all then it can SUP. If
it does not it must PRE to pick up the elements that it does not
contain - Note this can only occur if
Since the VVDS is a catalog extension supporting both VSAM and SMS, wouldn't
the size of the VVDS depend on mix of VSAM and non-VSAM datasets and
possibly even the type of VSAM datasets on the volume?
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At least the VVDS can take extents. One of our volume with 70% used
lots of 1 track datasets 46 extents 460 tracks.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:58 AM, retired mainframer
retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote:
Since the VVDS is a catalog extension supporting both VSAM and SMS, wouldn't
the size of the
It seems odd to me the defaults for the CATLG_ERR failjob and errormsg are NO.
In my tests with an ALLOC specified but CATLG_ERR not specified, I do get the
IEF377I message anyway. Also, the failjob=yes option does not change the
condition code and does not abnormally end the job.
Basically
Had a problem allocating a NON SMS Large PS file that would not span volumes;
is anyone on this list familiar with the parameter UNIT=(3390,P) which worked?
This parameter pre-allocates the volsers; never saw this before and is this a
new feature with z/OS R1.13?
//DD01 DD DSN=DSN1,DISP=SHR
P
asks the system to allocate the same number of devices as
requested by the volume count or SER subparameters of the
VOLUME parameter, whichever is higher - the effect is that
all volumes for the data set are mounted at the same time
Had a problem allocating a NON SMS
Just ran into a situation where the VVDS was filling up; 10,10 was not working.
Our DBMB group was installing DB2 V10 which has to be SMS managed and were
placing hundred of DSNs on one mod-3.
So I INIT'ed them as
INIT UNIT(560D) VOLID(DBJ555) VTOC(1,0,60) VFY(TS560D) -
INDEX(0,1,14) STGR
We just hired a 70 year old COBOL Programmer.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of chris lindenhauer
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 9:42 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Need a DB2 DBA under z/OS
Hi Gang
We
Thank you.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Greg Shirey
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:55 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SYSB-II
Mike,
Our company uses SYSB almost exactly as John McKown described how
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On Behalf Of Kurt Quackenbush
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:40 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Dumb SMPE question
... Or do what I do and
build the exclude list required to
Question: In the actual PROC JCL, the JCL between the // PROC and //
PEND statements (or assumed PEND if it is a PDS member), you coded a JCL
statement with // DD *?
I think if you do, that is not acceptable, because the * indicates that
non-JCL data follows and you cannot have that
As indicated in the Appendix C of the ICKDSF Guide, these are theoretical
maximums.
The same could be done for VSM/SMS managed datasets.
i.e. If *EVERY* dataset on the volume was a 1-track VSAM DS (or SMS managed
DS), what is the size if the VVDS required
for the larger of the two
On 2/7/2014 12:09 PM, Cosby, Bob - OCFO wrote:
We just hired a 70 year old COBOL Programmer.
Ah! The Renaissance begins!
-Steve Comstock, Founder
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
www.trainersfriend.com
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I'm going to cross post to the CICS list
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Ward, Mike S
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 1:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SYSB-II
Thank you.
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 18:46:13 +, Cosby, Bob - OCFO wrote:
Had a problem allocating a NON SMS Large PS file that would not span volumes;
is anyone on this list familiar with the parameter UNIT=(3390,P) which worked?
This parameter pre-allocates the volsers; never saw this before and is this a
Folks,
Forgive me if this sounds like a sales or marketing call ... but ... I do
own a product that does the same
as SYSB-II does and IMHO, better.
If interested, take a look at VSHARE from CSI-International.
Kind Regards.
Jim Thomas
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Is this it http://www.csi-international.com because I got'this page cant
be displayed'
On 07/02/2014 4:48 PM, Jim Thomas wrote:
Folks,
Forgive me if this sounds like a sales or marketing call ... but ... I do
own a product that does the same
as SYSB-II does and IMHO, better.
If interested,
Yes .. that is it ... don't know why it cannot be displayed but w/check
w/the responsible parties ..
Please accept my sincere apologies ...
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
Behalf Of Graham Hobbs
Sent: Friday, February 07,
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