Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Mills
AMEN! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Sam Siegel Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 7:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server I'm with you Scott ... I like to

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:09:09 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote: Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links for completeness. The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The others just popped up. Another great technological leap backwards.

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:24:21 -0400, Scott Ford wrote: I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me. Not me. I still prefer the .boo. In fact, most of the time, I still use the z/OS 1.13 books rather than the current doc unless I'm going to print part of it, or

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hi Liz, The information is in the subject. I tried to access JOBNUM and other information that are seen in SDSF LOG cmd, but are not available to TSO CONSOLE/GETMSG commands. Anyway, it's not an issue as I used the masking option of the $T CJ command. Regards, ITschak. ITschak Mugzach Z/OS,

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Dan Little
Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite , quirks and all. No waiting. No fishing around for what website might have some doc. I am on TSO and my problem is on the mainframe so I look up what I need in seconds...one copy for everyone! On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Paul Gilmartin

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAOdPEgQ9WMzGL-coxOoxF-HLyCUrxPaA22Ntq=wl9tf3s+p...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/11/2015 at 07:07 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com said: The information is in the subject. I tried to access JOBNUM and other information that are seen in SDSF LOG cmd, LOG displays syslog and is not analogous

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9655256407995553.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/11/2015 at 11:16 AM, Tom Marchant 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said: Not me. I still prefer the .boo. Soo do I, but I could live with PDF if IBM would provide bookshelf and bookindex files, even if I had to

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAG5iWUQJd5RT-Sn50kpYXKuF2Er_nNisZ=rgf2bmf_p52l6...@mail.gmail.com, on 03/11/2015 at 04:44 PM, Dan Little dwlit...@gmail.com said: Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite I prefer to have the bki, bks and boo files on a network file server, so that I can get to them from a PC even if I'm

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Scott Ford
Charles, I agree , I search then if i find the .boo I download the PDF. The searches are much faster on you local pc for sure.. Regards, Scott On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Agreed on this also. Prefer PDF to KC except for the most trivial of quick

Re: MGCR in a non typical asid

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hi Scott, I tried the ROUTE command (ROUTE xxx,REPLY nn,Y). It failed by RACF as all other commands comes from non typical addressspaces. I think I don't have fingers to count the (new) z/os versions not sup[ported since the one I am running on... I compared the macros between 1.7 and 1.13 and

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Ed Finnell
And if TSO is down? In a message dated 3/11/2015 3:45:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dwlit...@gmail.com writes: ...one copy for everyone! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:44:53 -0400, Dan Little wrote: Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite , quirks and all. No waiting. No fishing around for what website might have some doc. I am on TSO and my problem is on the mainframe so I look up what I need in seconds...one copy for everyone! Not

Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Easy alignment to a 256 byte boundary? On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 18:57:53 -0400 David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote: :Per the new PoOps: : : :LZRG R1,D2(X2,B2) [RXY-a] : :The second operand, with the rightmost byte set to zero, is placed :at the first-operand location. [snip] for LZRG, the first and

Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lucas Rosalen wrote: Mike is right. At 2:01 you've added 3600s (to make it 3:01), so JES2 tried to catch up as the interval had already been more than satisfied. Indeed and this is documented, quote If, at 1:15 a.m., the clock is set ahead two hours, making the current time 3:15 a.m., the

Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Robin Atwood
I searched the archives and found a very similar problem to mine in the thread https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0606L=IBM-MAINP=R34295I=-3X=D02C315241E55CCC48Y=abend922%40gmail.comd=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches back in 2006 and ably answered by Rob Scott. I seem to have a very similar

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote: I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then wish to change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable to the getmsg command. Any help? What command did you used to get $HASP890? Please post the command and the results as well

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Staller, Allan
The new tools are not as available, reliable, or efficient as their predecessors [1]. [1] In a bout of frustration I complained to a duty manager about the performance and availability of one of the new tools. I was informed that it was still the same old green screen application w/a GUI front

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote: The command synrax us $dn,all,q=xeqk I tried out your command just as is and got $HASP650. I then tried $dn,all and see CLASS=A for one job as an example. So I don't see what the problem is. Please look at my other questions, I believe you may have a problem using

Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
Dusting off this old thread: I set a slip trap that included the TCPIP address space in the address spaces to be dumped. TCPIPCS socket detail on that slip dump gives me: TCPIP Socket Analysis BLS18100I ASID(X'002B') 01F0_2280 not available The address

How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then wish to change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable to the getmsg command. Any help? Regards Itschak -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
The command synrax us $dn,all,q=xeqk Utschak בתאריך 11 במרץ 2015 15:20, ‏Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za כתב: Itschak Mugzach wrote: I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then wish to change job class. The problem is that job number is not

Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
I can tell you the intent. Each allocation of above-2G storage fits into one of 5 should I include it in the dump? categories -- - like region (default for private) - like LSQA - like CSA (default for common) - like SQA - do not dump automatically The intent is to dump like x when 'x' is

Re: CICS 4.2 to 5.1

2015-03-11 Thread Jon Butler
There is also quite an overhead...up to 30%...when you use an initial value INITIMG(x'40') with a GETMAIN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Rex Pommier
Hi Shane, First of all, I want to make it known that I'm not a fan of the knowledgecenter, but that being said I tried your little unofficial experiment. The KC link did come up noticeably slower this morning for me as well, but in my case it was a matter of about 5 seconds versus about a

Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-11 Thread David Cole
Oops. I dyslex'd the whole thing. Nevermind. At 3/11/2015 04:06 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: Easy alignment to a 256 byte boundary? On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 18:57:53 -0400 David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote: :Per the new PoOps: : : :LZRG R1,D2(X2,B2) [RXY-a] : :The second operand, with the

Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7676853980546110.wa.nitzibmgmx@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/11/2015 at 07:41 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net said: How come a slip dump does not dump common storage above the bar despite both SQA and CSA being set? Did the IARV64 macro have DUMP=NO or XMFCTRL_XDUMP_NO? -- Shmuel

Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Mills
*Usually* not. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lou Losee Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology Is there a link to the keynote or the

Re: Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 002401d05bd3$e8dda010$ba98e030$@gmail.com, on 03/11/2015 at 03:18 PM, Robin Atwood abend...@gmail.com said: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Please check your listserv options for IBM-MAIN. It looks like you were sending format=flowed but the listserv did not preserve your

Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Works fine for me and responds with msg hasp890. Anyway, i realized i was on a wrong root. I don't need the job number. Just change the class with job mask like this: $t jq,/jm=xxx,q=xeq,/c=k,c=j Best ITschak בתאריך 11 במרץ 2015 15:33, ‏Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za כתב:

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Scott Ford
I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me. On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: The new tools are not as available, reliable, or efficient as their predecessors [1]. [1] In a bout of frustration I complained to a duty

Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Sam Siegel
I'm with you Scott ... I like to have the pdf on local disk. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote: I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me. On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: The

Re: Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Rob Scott
I do not believe that you can use non-character data in the NAME or TASK values in GIVE/TAKESOCKET. Try using a test program with a single subtask with a known value - eg TEST0001 Also ensure that the DOMAIN value is correct in your CLIENT structure is correct (for both give and take) and