Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
Thank you sir ...So , what happens when a program running in address space A gets dispatched on a different processor B following an interrupt ? Doesn't the PSA contents change at that point ? ...Then as a part of prefixing , the absolute location is mapped to a different block in real storage .

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
Now i get it ...thanks a lot for making this clear to me . On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM < kees.verno...@klm.com> wrote: > 'Doesn't the PSA contents change at that point ?' ==> No, each PSA remains > the same. The program's PSA-pointer is just set to the PSA of

Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
Hello Listers , Apologies in advance if this is a dumb question . But every time i read the below paragraph from ABC volumes , i get lost in the middle . *prefixed storage area* This area is often referred to as low core. The PSA is a common area of virtual storage from address zero through

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
There is one for each processor, so all address spaces dispatched on the same processor will access the same PSA. In that way each PSA is common for all address spaces. Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of baby

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Vernooij, CP (ITOPT1) - KLM
'Doesn't the PSA contents change at that point ?' ==> No, each PSA remains the same. The program's PSA-pointer is just set to the PSA of the processor it runs on. 'as the PSA is no longer the same' ==> there is no 'the PSA' there are many PSAs. 'The' PSA a program sees, is the PSA of the

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 23 Feb 2016 20:46:21 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Ed Gould wrote: >>Seriously the issue is absence of debugging tools to find the leak >>seems like it would be simpler to have them. > >Who said they didn't? They had quite excellent problem determination tools >(plural). > >Keep

Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Walter Marguccio
Hello Manshadi,  it has nothing to do with your query, however ... why would you want to bypass HOLDERR during APPLY ?Are there other people on this list who would recommend this practice ? Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread baby eklavya
Great Thank you all . On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 8:14 PM, Charles Mills wrote: > From the program's point of view the content of the PSA changes, although > actually the PSA content has stayed the same, the program is just looking > at a different one. > > It's like

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Pinnacle
On 2/24/2016 6:52 AM, mansh...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 at 6:20:06 PM UTC+3:30, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: I am trying to apply UI15763 PTF on DB2 10 ( z/OS 1.12 ). The following error is appeared : GIM23901E ** LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FOR SYSMOD UI12617 FAILED FOR MODULE

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:32:19 +, Walter Marguccio wrote: > > ... why would you want to bypass HOLDERR during APPLY ?Are there other people > on this list who would recommend this practice ?  > Absolutely. If the APAR text indicates that the error is limited to a certain hardware or software

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:46:59 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: >Is there a different place where this concept is documented with more >details ? .. Prefixing is documented in the Principles of Operation. Every processor has its own first page (actually two pages now). The reason is that there are

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
By the way PSA = Prefixed Storage Area, not Save area. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
>From the program's point of view the content of the PSA changes, although >actually the PSA content has stayed the same, the program is just looking at a >different one. It's like looking out the window of a train at "the station." You look two minutes later and "the station" is different,

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:32:19 +, Walter Marguccio wrote: >why would you want to bypass HOLDERR during APPLY ? Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see any reference to bypassing error holds. >Are there other people on this list who would recommend this practice ? I would not. -- Tom Marchant

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
The only risk I have found in the past is - Understanding how IPCS works What it is in IPCS that they need? Otherwise, I have allowed programmers to use it. Saved me from extracting data from dumps for them. Lizette > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Field, Alan
Allan wins. Thank you for the hint. I remember reading CA at startup creates some symbols. Maybe OSLEVEL is one of them? OSLEVEL shows up in a D SYMBOLS. I recoded my OMVS entry thus: OMVS=(00,(4:1).(6:1).), Success . Alan Field Systems Engineer Principal Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/24/2016 12:46 PM, Lopez, Sharon wrote: What are the risks of giving [IPCS] access to developers? Mostly, you risk them learning and understanding more about our platform -- and post-mortem debugging -- than they did previously. IIRC, IPCS requires READ access to parmlib. If that's an

Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Mark Wilson
I am working with a client in Europe that is being requested by his senior management team to look at outsourcing their IT systems, including their system z platform. Would anyone be willing to share any war stories of their experiences with Outsourcing good or bad? Offline from the list via

Re: MaaS360 spam [was: quick question]

2016-02-24 Thread Neil Duffee
Scott: remove me from all e-dress lists that you have contact with. This is spam and you should be ashamed for harvesting IBM-Main e-dresses where there have been *many* unsolicited advertisements for MaaS360 in the past. Your e-dress has been added to my spam-kill rule. ps. In Canada,

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Grinsell, Don
We just went through a study involving only the mainframe and came away with the conclusion that for the time being we are doing it cheaper in house than we could do it outside. Our biggest issue is that the mainframe platform is not strategic and our applications are steadily migrating off.

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread McCabe, Ron
We are also in the "research" stage of possibly Outsourcing our z platform so I would also be interested in hearing the good or bad stories. I will be at Share next week. Thanks, Ron McCabe Mutual of Enumclaw -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:02:47 -0500, Pinnacle wrote: >On 2/24/2016 6:52 AM, mansh...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Yes I did bypass BYPASS(HOLDSYS,HOLDERR,ID) and use GROUPEXTEND during apply >> the PTF. >> Then you have broken your system. The only way to correct your error

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 10:31:14 +, Mark Wilson wrote: >I am working with a client in Europe that is being requested by his senior >management team to look at outsourcing their IT systems, including their >system z platform. > >Would anyone be willing to share any war stories of their

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Finnell
Think it's more a symptom of the times. Just fire and forget if it don't work Ctl-Alt-Del fixes everything. Why train we're getting off this thing in a few months? Or SMP/E's so simple an eight grader can do it(actual quote). Or ze installed Windows Server surely zOS can't be much more

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 07:55:16 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >By the way PSA = Prefixed Storage Area, not Save area. I thought I remembered learning it that way too, but all of the documentation I've been able to find says Prefixed Save Area. That includes

AW: Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> It's like looking out the window of a train at "the station." You look two > minutes later and "the station" is different, although actually the station > has not changed, you are just looking at a different one. I admit I've had a glass of beautiful wine accompanying my diner, but you've

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Harsh, but on target. I now delete posts in both threads based on subject alone. . . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office jesse1.robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From:

Re: MaaS360 spam [was: quick question]

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 16:33:55 +, Neil Duffee wrote: >Scott: remove me from all e-dress lists that you have contact with. This is >spam and you should be ashamed for harvesting IBM-Main e-dresses where there >have been *many* unsolicited advertisements for MaaS360 in the past. Your

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Ken Hume
I wound up leaving a company in Atlanta that I had been with over 17 years when they announced we were under the Y2K force reduction plan. After Y2K was completed, 46 of us in the support area would be laid off. We had over 600yrs combined employment with the company. I chose to take a job I

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 11:02:47 -0500, Pinnacle wrote: >On 2/24/2016 6:52 AM, manshadi wrote: >> >> Yes I did bypass BYPASS(HOLDSYS,HOLDERR,ID) and use GROUPEXTEND during apply >> the PTF. >> Ouch! (KurtQ:) >Bypass HOLDSYS is fine. Bypass HOLDERR should not be used unless you >require the PTF

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 08:57:13 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:32:19 +, Walter Marguccio wrote: > >>why would you want to bypass HOLDERR during APPLY ? > >Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see any reference to bypassing error holds. It appears that parts of this thread are

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
It would be helpful if you clarified your needs. There are multiple levels of outsourcing: Machine is moved, but both systems programming and application programming remain in-house. Machine is moved, including systems programming but the applications remain in-house Everything is moved. I

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Do you get any other error messages? What symptoms (other than cannot connect) do you see? Have you joined the TCPIP List? If not, that might another place to post this question. To join, if you have not done so, use this TCPIP To subscribe, send mail to lists...@vm.marist.edu with

Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Field, Alan
I want to specify a different BPXPRMnn concatenation depending on whether I'm IPLing z/OS 2.1 or z/OS 2.2. The second member has the filesystem mounts and they are different depending on which level of z/OS is IPLing. In SYS1.PARMLIB(IEASYS00) I specify OMVS=(00,(2:1)(4:1)), However at IPL

SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
After applying RSU maintenance to our zos1.13 sandbox system I have run into a problem (that I expected from reading the hold data) with TN3270 and SSL. SSLv2 & 3 are now defaulted to off. All our tn3270 sessions are configured to use ssl, I tested with TLS and they work fine. I'd like to

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: SNIP--- BYPASS(PRE), BYPASS(ID): Never! These will create an invalid configuration, one which the vendor is unlikely to have tested. -SNIP Paul: I

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Roach, Dennis
As long as they stay with their applications there should be no issue. A standalone dump can contain passwords. A multi-session manager, like CA/TPX, can also contain passwords. SVC, SLIP, etc. can contain passwords. Dennis Roach, CISSP, PMP IAM Access Administration - Consumer - Senior Analyst

Re: Introducing Open Blockchain for IBM z Systems

2016-02-24 Thread Bigendian Smalls
Hey Timothy - I’ve read quite a bit on blockchain - and agree it could be very game changing for certain types of applications. It was stated elsewhere that IBM’s implementation (along with their corporate and Linux partners) would be open source. Is it available yet? Cheers Chad > On

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
None. You should protect your SYS1.DUMP dataset. In general, protect the data, not the program - unless the program is APF and bypasses OPEN without a security check. On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:46:34 + "Lopez, Sharon" wrote: :>Do others use IPCS instead of systems

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 21 February 2016 at 09:39, Mainframe Mainframe wrote: > CSV540E LNKLST SET LNKLST00 is in error. > DATASET SET SYS1.SERBLINK > HAS VOLUME ID DOESNT NOT MATCH WITH CATALOG. > > Can you please give me little idea on this. Did it really say "HAS VOLUME ID DOESNT NOT

Re: History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:34:33 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I was trolling for information on what the 360 indicated in the System/360 (yes >the old one) and came across this video Thanks for sharing this, Lizette. >The S/360 Model 30 had 1MB >of memory (I think) at the time. I think the model

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread zMan
Ed Gould wrote: >Remember the *OLD* days there was a 16MB max on (even) an MP? Never mind the cost of $10K per meg (if memory serves me on a 168). Maybe at the end of the 370 era. Per http://www.jcmit.com/memoryprice.htm it wasn't until 1979 or so that it got that cheap. I remember $1/byte back

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Steve Thompson
In development groups that are working with ALC/HLASM it is used all the time from my experience. Now, for a company with general users, and is not an ISV, if you have HLASM programmers, yes, let them have it. If you have your security stuff set up correctly, they can't get to anything with

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 00:58:30 +0200, Binyamin Dissen wrote: >On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:59:57 -0600 Tom Marchant ><000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > >:>On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:29:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: > >:>>Hmmm. I am looking at the z PoOps and it never seems to use the

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
Binyamin: I agree but to a specific point disagree. I have been in several shops where read access was given to SYS1.PARMLIB . Every one of those shops at least one time a month we were called into a meeting to "discuss" contents of sys1.parmlib. Those meeting could last 2-5 hours

History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
I was trolling for information on what the 360 indicated in the System/360 (yes the old one) and came across this video Thought some might enjoy the walk down memory lane. The S/360 Model 30 had 1MB of memory (I think) at the time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4kyTg9Cw8g Lizette

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Those Christmas/Birthday cards that 'sing' when you open them contain, individually, more computing power than was on the face of the planet in 1950. -teD   Original Message   From: zMan Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 21:00 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 14:02:27 -0600, Ed Gould wrote: >On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >> SNIP--- >> BYPASS(PRE), BYPASS(ID): Never! These will create an invalid >> configuration, >> one which the

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Stevet
Wasn't this referred to, at some point, as the Prefix Storage Area? And, is it not also used by VM, VSE, and any other multi-CPU SCP? W/ zArch it became 8K. Nevertheless, absolute 0 is owned by PR/SM, right? Oh this takes me back years to an Architecture class and the definitions that had

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-24 Thread Robert Hahne
CSV540E simply means that dynamic activation with COPYFROM=CURRENT is no longer going to work . Peter has already explained why this happens and what needs to be done . Why is OP still beating around the bush ? > Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 17:44:43 -0500 > From: deerh...@ix.netcom.com > Subject:

Re: History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 24, 2016, at 10:04 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:34:33 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: I was trolling for information on what the 360 indicated in the System/360 (yes the old one) and came across this video Thanks for sharing this, Lizette. The S/360 Model 30 had

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 21:28:05 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: >On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:51:07 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>I suspect CA's shenanigans were a motivation for IBM's tightening the rules on >>SUPERSEDEs a few years prior to that. > >How were the rules for SUP

Re: History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
My *recollection* is that the S/360 30 came with up to 48K, or 64K by RPQ. I could be off, but 1MB sounds incredibly high to me. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016

Re: History of Computing 1944 and the evolution to the System/360

2016-02-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
charl...@mcn.org (Charles Mills) writes: > My *recollection* is that the S/360 30 came with up to 48K, or 64K by RPQ. I > could be off, but 1MB sounds incredibly high to me. ga24-3231-7, 360-30 functional characteristics pg14 (from bitsavers) c308kbytes d30 16kbytes dc30 24kbytes e30

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-24 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Tony, looks like slightly rephrased:- DATA SET dsname HAS A VOLUME ID THAT DOES NOT MATCH CATALOG The provided volume ID, or the volume ID previously found for the data set, does not match the volume ID now found in the catalog. The data set found in the catalog might not

AW: Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> Nevertheless, absolute 0 is owned by PR/SM, right? The 8 KiB area at absolute 0 is the place where the hardware writes status information as result of performing the "Store Status" operation. It has existed for longer than PR/SM. I would say, it is owned by the hardware. > There is

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
edgould1...@comcast.net (Ed Gould) writes: > Remember the *OLD* days there was a 16MB max on (even) an MP? Never > mind the cost of $10K per meg (if memory serves me on a 168). > Yes the newer machines have more memory but in reality you really > don't get all that more functionality, and yes

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Jousma, David
I should have also added that once all the upgrades are done, everything is migrated back into regular parmlib/proclib. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Engineering david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids,

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Roberto Halais
We ran into that situation and ended up specifying SSLV3 in the Telnetparms for port 992 (Then we converted to PAGENT and TLS) TelnetParms Secureport 992 ; Port number 992 (Secure) sslv3 sslv3 ; Allow SSLv3 connections On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:35 PM,

IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Lopez, Sharon
Do others use IPCS instead of systems programmers? I always thought of it as a system's programmers tool but now we have application developers that want access to it. What are the risks of giving access to developers? Thanks in advance. Email

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Jousma, David
I do something similar. I create a SYS1.PARMLIB.UPGRADE that only contains the members updated for the new release testing. I then add it to LOADxx PARMLIB concatenation when I want to test the new, and remove it/if when going back. I do the same for PROCLIB, and add a PROCLIB.UPGRADE to

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Field, Alan
I coded OMVS=(00,(2:1).(4:1).), (with the periods) and it still objects. I'm thinking it doesn't like the symbol since works as you depicted. Alan Field Systems Engineer Principal Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN 651.662.3546 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Staller, Allan
Is defined in SYS1.PARMLIB(IEASYMxx)? If So, can you create the results of (x:y) as another symbol? I coded OMVS=(00,(2:1).(4:1).), (with the periods) and it still objects. I'm thinking it doesn't like the symbol since works as you depicted. This email – including attachments – may

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Lizette Koehler
Also, according to OA47183 you may also need to install OA46489. Did that occur as well? APAR OA46489 fixed the problem it reported but introduced a new problem. We recommend OA46489 stay installed. Without OA46489, gsk_environment_open() would default to enable the SSL V2 and

Re: DASD device not going offline

2016-02-24 Thread Bob Rutledge
On 2/24/2016 5:34 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: On 21 February 2016 at 09:39, Mainframe Mainframe wrote: CSV540E LNKLST SET LNKLST00 is in error. DATASET SET SYS1.SERBLINK HAS VOLUME ID DOESNT NOT MATCH WITH CATALOG. Can you please give me little idea on this. Did it

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/24/2016 1:59 PM, Tom Marchant wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:29:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: Hmmm. I am looking at the z PoOps and it never seems to use the acronym PSA at all. It simply refers to "Prefixing" and the "Prefix Area." Right. PSA is an MVS control block. Replacing FLC

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 2/24/2016 2:11 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote: The one reservation I might (still) have is that an IPCS user can look up anyone's skirt or down anyone's shorts. What's to see? Back to audit. ;-( You mean with ACTIVE? You can SAF protect so it's "current" address space only. No more of an

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 15:59:57 -0600 Tom Marchant <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:29:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: :>>Hmmm. I am looking at the z PoOps and it never seems to use the :>>acronym PSA at all. It simply refers to "Prefixing" and the

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2016 at 17:53, Ed Jaffe wrote: >> Right. PSA is an MVS control block. > > Replacing FLC from the old, old days. > > AFAIK, prefixing did occur until multiprocessing came about... On the S/360 model 65MP there was prefixing, but no prefix register for

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. I am looking at the z PoOps and it never seems to use the acronym PSA at all. It simply refers to "Prefixing" and the "Prefix Area." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant Sent: Wednesday,

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
It's a major hot button of mine that components sometimes make incompatible changes such that the parms *required* for one release are *unacceptable* to another release. This means that a common member cannot be shared concurrently and also complicates going forward or backward. One workaround

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Dave, you get the gold star! SSLV3 did it! Thanks to all -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 -

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Yes, OA46489 is on (PTF UA75508). The error I get is a pop up window with Unable to establish secure socket error:1409443E:SSL routine:SSL3_READ_BYTES:tlsv1 alert protocol version The SSL handshake failed -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
When I hit a similar issue with z/OS 1.13, I was able to use SSLV3 in TELNETGLOBALS to revive it. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:08 PM > To:

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Porowski, Ken
Maybe try a period after each variable? CIT | Ken Porowski | VP Mainframe Engineering | Information Technology | +1 973 740 5459 (tel) | ken.porow...@cit.com This email message and any accompanying materials may contain proprietary, privileged and confidential information of CIT Group

Re: Parsing IEASYS00 entries

2016-02-24 Thread Jousma, David
You coded: OMVS=(00,(2:1)(4:1)), Should it be: OMVS=(00,(2:1).(4:1).), We use symbols in ours: OMVS=(00,FS,,), Where is defined as SYMDEF(='TECH') /* */ SYMDEF(='(1:1).') /* 1 char t, d, p */ SYMDEF(='(1:2).') /* 2 char

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
Dave, what statements did you add? Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Gibney, David Allen,Jr Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF

Re: SSLv3 & SSLv3 - APAR OA47183, PTF UA75508

2016-02-24 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
UA75508 is sup'd by UA76977 on my system. TELNETGLOBALS SSLV3 And I am using a keyring in RACF > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of Dazzo, Matt > Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 12:15 PM > To:

Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!

2016-02-24 Thread zMan
This is anecdotal, of course, so of limited value, but the outsourcing projects that I've seen be successful were the ones where some local expertise was retained. The net was that the gruntwork was what was outsourced; the corporate knowledge remained. Alas, these seem to be the exception. Far

Re: Introducing the New z13s: Tim's Hardware Highlights

2016-02-24 Thread David L. Craig
On 16Feb24:2100-0500, zMan wrote: > > I remember $1/byte back in the 360 era. Amazing times. Even more amazing: according to the https://www.minneapolisfed.org/ inflation calculator, that equates to about $7/byte in today's dollar's purchasing power. -- May the LORD God bless you exceedingly

Re: Apply PTF on DB2 10 (z/os 1.12)

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 19:51:07 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >I suspect CA's shenanigans were a motivation for IBM's tightening the rules on >SUPERSEDEs a few years prior to that. How were the rules for SUP tightened? -- Tom Marchant

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Tony Harminc
On 24 February 2016 at 15:46, Lopez, Sharon wrote: > Do others use IPCS instead of systems programmers? I always thought of it as > a system's programmers tool but now we have application developers that want > access to it. What are the risks of giving access to

Re: Prefix save area - confused

2016-02-24 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 12:29:58 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Hmmm. I am looking at the z PoOps and it never seems to use the >acronym PSA at all. It simply refers to "Prefixing" and the "Prefix Area." Right. PSA is an MVS control block. -- Tom Marchant

Re: IPCS

2016-02-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
I've always been in favor of opening up IPCS to non-sysprog types. With some caveats. A long time ago IPCS actually required access to SYS1.PARMLIB, which in my shop at the time was an audit no-no. No longer a problem. The biggest inhibitor today is probably how useful IPCS would be for