Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Jake Anderson
We have one CEC plus one SE and HMC. Updating from 32 to 36. On Wed, 18 Dec, 2019, 3:11 PM Jousma, David, < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I don’t know that a couple days are accurate, unless the CE just doesn’t > want to work more than 8 hours. I will tell you

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
TSO BPXMTEXT EF096A32 will tell you exactly why the file system was not mounted. I haven't looked, but IIRC error code 79 indicates some sort of "file not found" (???) error. HTH, -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R Hey Sent: Tuesday, December 17,

SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Jake Anderson
Hello We are updating our HMC/SE driver level. Our CE says the update takes 2 days to complete. I am trying to understand what are the factors which delays or takes time to complete the process. Regards Jake -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
I can believe Driver MCLs can take a long time on the support element. I do not agree with the HMC updated. I have never seen a HMC upgrade take more than a couple of hours. My $0.02 USD worth. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent:

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Lou Losee
the error description indicates that 1.13 is too downlevel for the aggregate version: Description: New version aggregates cannot be processed on this system. Action: If this is a primary mount, re-issue the mount on a system that supports higher version aggregates. If this is a catchup mount, no

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
I don’t know that a couple days are accurate, unless the CE just doesn’t want to work more than 8 hours. I will tell you though that it was a lengthy process. Probably 8-10 hours if I remember right when we made that jump a year or so ago. We normally allot 5-6 hours of time for IBM to

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration [EXTERNAL]

2019-12-18 Thread Feller, Paul
Jake are you updating one or more HMCs as well as the SEs? I would say if you are updating the Driver level on the SEs then you need to update the HMCs that talk to them. Updating an HMC can take a little time. As Dave said the update to the SEs can take some time. The dynamic process takes

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration [EXTERNAL]

2019-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
Paul's, comments reminded me to add some clarification. In our shop, 2 times per year, IBM always puts the MCL updates on concurrently, and the driver level upgrade included both HMC's and SE's, and took them near 12 hours to complete. We happen to *choose* to then perform a POR after they

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
So, you just found an incompatibility in ZFS, and found a way out, luckily. It’s the other resources that are shared that are going to cause you problems. Are you a DFHSM user? How current are you on maintenance in your lpars? I will tell you for fact that if you are an HSM user, there was

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
Paul, Is there a reason this has to be done in Assembler? Using TSO batch, you could simply execute command:ALTUSER userid RESUME Regards, Bob Robert S. Hansel Lead RACF Specialist RSH Consulting, Inc. 617-969-8211 www.linkedin.com/in/roberthansel www.twitter.com/RSH_RACF

Re: Resource Manager Routine & RESMGR macro

2019-12-18 Thread Peter Relson
In the Parameter List (IHARMPL) passed to the Resource Manager Routine, there is an address of a Resource Manager Work Area (RMPLRMWA). . On the RESMGR macro, PARAM=paddr, that specifies the address of an 8-byte field. . It is my understanding the Resource Manager Work Area (RMPLRMWA) is

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Jake Anderson
Out of curiosity why Driver update takes time .. What happens internally and what are set of action takes (apologies for my ignorance) On Wed, 18 Dec, 2019, 5:42 PM Allan Staller, wrote: > I can believe Driver MCLs can take a long time on the support element. > I do not agree with the HMC

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Steve Beaver
There is about only 1 guy on the RACF-L that might know this answer and that would be Walt Ferrill OBTW - Hi Binyamin - Happy Hanukah -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Allan Staller
I don’t really know what goes on under the covers. Your IBM SE would be a better person to ask for the details. I think of the Driver MCL as a "level set". I suspect, each low level routine is updated and verified, which accounts for the duration. -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Chicklon, Thomas
> Probably 8-10 hours if I remember right when we made that jump a year or so > ago. We normally allot 5-6 hours of time for IBM > to complete before our maintenance window, and in this particular case, we > almost blew through our window of work because the > updates ran so long. WE now

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 16:41, esst...@juno.com wrote: > Hello.I'm Not a RACF person. > . > I am looking at the RACROUTE macro, and don't see a RACROUTE > REQUEST=RESUME option. > . > I would like to resume an end-users password by submitting a job. > Can this be accomplished by using RACROUTE

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration [EXTERNAL]

2019-12-18 Thread Feller, Paul
Jake, this may be a bad analogy but think of a driver upgrade like a z/OS upgrade. You are changing the base operating system used to run the hardware. It can touch all of the I/O features and other features in your box. An example of the "other" features would be the CFCC level for a

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread R.S.
Out of curiosity: what is the reason? Why to connect 3 different system levels in one sysplex? It is unsupported - we know that. It is somehow hard. It is somehow risky - we are aware about that also . Why not upgrade 1.13 system to current one and then connect it to the sysplex? Yes, upgrade

Re: Zosmf configuration assistant

2019-12-18 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
On 12/18/2019 2:06 AM, Peter wrote: I have installed zosmf 2.2. i don't see TCPIP configuration assistant on the zosmf welcome Page. I believe a plugin have to be imported. Is there a sample plugin that i can point and use it ? Did you specify COMMSERVER_CFG in the PLUGINs list in your

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread Charles Mills
It's a LE thing. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Bickerdike Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 6:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded PL/1

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Schuffenhauer, Mark
I find it easiest to do it under PGM=IKJEFT01 Under a user who has admin authority, presuming RACF is setup correctly in ISPF with the commands. ALU User1234 RESUME -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread R.S.
There are various answers. My experience: few hours. What is few? I can't provide exact number, but definitely less than 8 hours. Maybe 3 is reasonable choice. I did it several times (sometimes without CE), but never even it took more than I describe above. Single CPC, one HMC (included in the

Re: Zosmf configuration assistant

2019-12-18 Thread Jousma, David
I'm not sure I've ever seen anything like this. I just enabled the plug-in in PARMLIB. But that all came along with z/OS V2.3. Are you on older release, and hence an older release of ZOSMF? _

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Al Ferguson
ISPF Skeleton? ___ Al Ferguson | mailto:afergu...@neptunescove.org Milwaukee, WI USA | http://www.neptunescove.org Dulcius ex Asperis > On 18 December 2019, at 14:18, Paul Gilmartin > <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:43:18

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Jason, We do that in our product (not selling you anything), and it is not easy. some of the parameters are not displayed in the command and need deeper investigation. In general, you do not compare syntax, but tokens. for example, you need to parse the the output from the display and compare

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:43:18 -0600, Jason Cai wrote: > >You gave me many good ideas,many thanks! > >We want to develop this tool to compare them. >Depend on system and subsystem,we could issue many D or $D command. > Because there are mash of these output and the format of output is

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:53:36 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 12:05, Charles Mills wrote: > >> It's a LE thing. > >Well, it was a PL/I thing decades before LE existed. > "That way"? What did the "/" delimit before LE existed? > >> PL/1 works the same way. Been like that for a

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread R Hey
Yes, HSM is used, but not installed/used during my tests. I didn't do much with zos 2.3, didn't create new DS in CAT's, etc. Just log'd on to TSO/SDSF to look at syslog. Client is forced to use 1.13 due to their APP not supporting zos 22. They are planning to upgrade it, but could take a while.

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
We've had enough bad weather around the world that raining on yet another parade seems cruel and unusual. Nonetheless, I have to opine that this quest is hopeless. So far I've not seen any product named. Even as mature and well-defined a product as JES does not provide its own parameter sanity

Re: Zosmf configuration assistant

2019-12-18 Thread Mark Charles
Hi Peter, You will need to do a Workflow to set up Configuration Assistant, then it will show up under Configurations Tab. While logged into z/OSMF: click on Workflows click on Actions (down arrow) and select Create Workflow -> opens a window to enter values:

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread esst...@juno.com
Mark Schuffenhauer wrote,. I find it easiest to do it under PGM=IKJEFT01 Under a user who has admin authority, presuming RACF is setup correctly in ISPF with the commands.ALU User1234 RESUME . This is an interesting approach - . My thinking is to run IKJEFT01 as a short run Started Task with

Re: SE/HMC driver update duration

2019-12-18 Thread Roger Lowe
> >We are updating our HMC/SE driver level. Our CE says the update takes 2 >days to complete. > Have you checked on IBM Resourcelink for your machine(s), the number of missing EC/MCLs? You can then use this info and list off the missing MCL details and/or HMC MCL Details and then ask your IBM

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Right, they don't say it won't work, but if it doesn’t, and something breaks, they aren't going to do anything to help you put the pieces back together. Wayne Driscoll Rocket Software Note - All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread scott Ford
Yep, right you are, there is a CEE function that will also give you the Parmstring. Scott On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 3:24 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 14:53:36 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > > >On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 12:05, Charles

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Jason Cai
Dear all You gave me many good ideas,many thanks! We want to develop this tool to compare them. Depend on system and subsystem,we could issue many D or $D command. Because there are mash of these output and the format of output is different with the parmlib members,how to compare

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 12:05, Charles Mills wrote: > It's a LE thing. > Well, it was a PL/I thing decades before LE existed. Tony H. > PL/1 works the same way. Been like that for a while...(JCL parms with > slash). > -- For

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Tracking changes (with a suitable tool) might be feasible. What you'll miss, however, is changes to product defaults. No one specifies every possible value. Sometimes the vendor changes a default or more often adds a new parameter/default that will not show up in a simple comparison with your

Re: Backward compat--how far?

2019-12-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
I thought that everyone using TSO Data set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST and MERDE, 5734-UT1, had converted to ASI TSO Superset (http://asisoft.com/products/tso-superset-utilities) long since. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3

Re: Backward compat--how far?

2019-12-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
It was a typo. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. If you had used FORMAT extensively you'd make the same typo. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel Sent:

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Steve Beaver
S RESUME,USER=ABCD123 Have it exec a REXX and see how you can CAPTURE the USERID then you are in busuness -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 4:37 PM To:

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
You better track changes to system datasets with a product such as EventAction, instead of trying to perform a compare active to passive configuration. There are some exceptions to what you monitor. TCPIP OBEY command allows you to specify your private library, but most others are quite known

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Jason Cai
Dear ITschak It is great that you do that in your production! I couldn't find Lionel Dyke's IPLINFO,could you tell where I can down it? You are right that we need to parse the the output from the display and compare same value in the parmlib. I know some Python . In Python we could

Re: SYNCSORT question: Why error INCOMPATIBLE LRECL usint TRAILER1 but not without?

2019-12-18 Thread David W Noon
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 22:28:12 +, Farley, Peter X23353 wrote abour SYNCSORT question: Why error INCOMPATIBLE LRECL usint TRAILER1 but not without?: [snip] > //SORTOUT DD DISP=(,CATLG,CATLG), > // DSN=output-VB-file, > // UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(010,010),RLSE), > //

Re: SYNCSORT question: Why error INCOMPATIBLE LRECL usint TRAILER1 but not without?

2019-12-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Bingo! Thank you for the help, that did the trick! I also ditched the "6:" positioning in TRAILER1, I thought that I needed to account for the RDW in the TRAILER1 specs, but not so. Working fine now, many thanks. Now on to bigger and better things like SUBTOTALS . . .  Peter

SYNCSORT question: Why error INCOMPATIBLE LRECL usint TRAILER1 but not without?

2019-12-18 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I have a fairly simple sort process where I want to provide a total record count at report end and later on I want to add a total of the numeric column of data that starts in column 7 of the input file. When I just sort and reformat the data (input and output files are both RECFM=VB) it works

Re: RACEOUTE REQUEST=RESUME ?

2019-12-18 Thread Mike Schwab
"S RESUME,USER=abc12345" with RESUME a tso proc to capture the USER parameter? Sure. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 1:13 PM esst...@juno.com wrote: > > Mark Schuffenhauer wrote,. > I find it easiest to do it under PGM=IKJEFT01 > Under a user who has admin authority, presuming RACF is setup

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Well, there is the IBM Command IPLINFO, and it might show the values you want to capture. https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.ieag100/d3ipl.htm But I think you want to check out http://mzelden.com/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txt which is also posted to

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
Google for "plagiarism". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Charles Mills Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Adding a PARM to a

Re: Adding a PARM to a PROCSTEP where no PARM is coded

2019-12-18 Thread Tony Harminc
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:24, Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > >Well, it was a PL/I thing decades before LE existed. > > > "That way"? What did the "/" delimit before LE existed? > PL/I runtime library options. Tony H.

Re: Backward compat--how far?

2019-12-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R' Shmuel  AMV"SH, "... MERDE ... " Was that a Freudian Slip or a typo? {;}-? Regards, David On 2019-12-18 17:11, Seymour J Metz wrote: > I thought that everyone using TSO Data set Utilities: COPY, FORMAT, LIST and > MERDE, 5734-UT1, had converted to ASI TSO Superset >

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Gibney, Dave
Their app not supporting z/OS 2.2 in not necessarily equal to won't run on z/OS 2.2 > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of R Hey > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:51 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Seymour J Metz
There are a lot of system interfaces for returning settings; I'd advise using such commands as DISPLAY and QUERY only when there isn't a more stable way to get the data. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe

Re: ZOS 1.13 2.2 2.3 in the same sysplex

2019-12-18 Thread Mike Schwab
Have you tried to run it on z/OS 2.1 / 2.2 / 2.3? That is a supported combination. On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 3:09 PM Gibney, Dave wrote: > > Their app not supporting z/OS 2.2 in not necessarily equal to won't run on > z/OS 2.2 > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Edward Finnell
All of Lionel's software is at www.lbdsoftware.com IPLINFO is a Mark Zelden creation athttp://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txtIn a message dated 12/18/2019 6:31:25 PM Central Standard Time, ibmm...@foxmail.com writes:   I couldn't find Lionel Dyke's IPLINFO,could you tell where I can down

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 00:50:09 +, Edward Finnell wrote: >All of Lionel's software is at www.lbdsoftware.com > >IPLINFO is a Mark Zelden creation >athttp://www.mzelden.com/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txtIn a message dated 12/18/2019 >6:31:25 PM > I see: http://mzelden.com/mvsfiles/iplinfo.txt > ...

Re: how to compare active parameter with the parameter in member

2019-12-18 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Hi Json, Start with SYS1.SAMPLIB(SPPINST). it demonstrate how to perform syntax verification for several parmlib members. I think that you better consider change control over comparison of active configuration with the static one using product such as event action. Sorry for misleading. IPL