Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread David Spiegel
Yes. On 2019-12-30 16:15, Seymour J Metz wrote: > Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > > > -- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz >

Migrating to new DS8884

2019-12-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
Hi, I've just been informed that we will be getting a new DS8884 to replace an older DS8884. Is there a way to export the configuration from the older DS8884 and copy it to the new one? Thanks Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Strange Migration behaviour DFHSM

2019-12-30 Thread Brian Westerman
I agree, it seems to bne a matter of tape migration being held. Make sure you figure out "why" it was held before you start it up again. There could be a good reason and it will be in the log (normally). You can also stop and start HSM and it should tell you why migration is not started

Re: VSAM record length 0

2019-12-30 Thread Steve Smith
Well, I would like to know, so I tried it. Evidently, an ESDS does not support reclen=0. My test input file (RECFM=VB) had no data in the 11th record (the aforementioned x'0004'), and the REPRO reported thus: IDC3302I ACTION ERROR ON SAS00.TEST.ESDS IDC3351I ** VSAM I/O RETURN CODE IS 108

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Steve Smith
It is impossible to please everyone all the time :-D. The only solution is to use UTC everywhere for everything; except of course, that would please almost no one who doesn't live in Iceland. sas On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:19 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: > From *which* time zone? You may have

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Gadi Ben-Avi
I changed TZ to the value you suggested, and when I issue the time command I get UTC. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 9:28 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Chaning time zone for Unix

Re: Strange Migration behaviour DFHSM

2019-12-30 Thread Hervey Martinez
Jake, The more common issues with this kind of behavior is that probably migration is held or there are no tape tasks assigned. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2019 10:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Allan Staller
One time setup. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gadi Ben-Avi Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks Thanks Is this a onetime setup, or would I have to do this twice a

Re: Strange Migration behavior DFHSM

2019-12-30 Thread Allan Staller
F DFHSM,Q ACTIVE, look for migration held Of you could just try F DFHSM,RELEASE ALL (or migration). -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jake Anderson Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 12:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Strange Migration

Re: VSAM record length 0

2019-12-30 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-12-27 o 23:55, Frank Swarbrick pisze: So I am trying to copy sequential file to a VSAM ESDS. One of the lines in the source file has a record length of zero. Apparently VSAM does not support zero-length records? Can this be true? This blank line has "meaning". What are my

RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread R.S.
This is rather off-topic, but somehow related to old mainframe machines. I'm looking for information, pictures, descriptions of old magnetic storage devices, especially not disks and tapes. Examples: NCR CRAM, Electrodata or Potter RAM. I also found some magic devices from RCA, used by some

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread Joe Monk
Here's one you'll enjoy: The IBM 2321 Data Cell. It was a device that used magnetic tape strips (2" wide and 13" long) arranged in a circle. Each "segment" of the circle was called a "cell". https://www.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_2321.html Joe

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Giliad Wilf
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:47:35 +, Allan Staller wrote: >One time setup. > >-Original Message- >From: I M Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of >Gadi Ben-Avi >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2019 1:33 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks >

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
> > > Unfortunately, this must be set in several places. > > -- gil > > > Depends on what you mean by "several". Might be dozens, hundreds, etc. The correct place to set TZ (as documented in the UNIX Planning book) is /etc/init.options. This will be picked up by any shells or programs (cron,

Re: VSAM record length 0

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:05:37 +0100, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2019-12-27 o 23:55, Frank Swarbrick pisze: >> So I am trying to copy sequential file to a VSAM ESDS. One of the lines in >> the source file has a record length of zero. Apparently VSAM does not >> support zero-length records? Can this

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 09:42:05 -0600, Giliad Wilf wrote: >... >Yes, it flips automatically, Gadi. > >Note the M3 and M10 in the expression, for March and October. > Imagining something that changes or "flips" semiannually is a conceptual error. In fact the TZ environment variable is a parameter to

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread Allan Staller
The IBM 2321 was also (affectionately?) known as the "noodle snatcher". A redesign in the S/370 generation produced the 3850 "drum storage" device. Same basic concept w/drums instead of mag strips. The 3850 (as well as the 2321) were both know for mangling the "back end" storage media. Cheer's

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Grant Taylor
On 12/30/19 12:09 AM, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: I want something that can be done using automation. Does using something like sed or patch count? -- Grant. . . . unix || die -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil, I agree - maybe there should be a special setting for TZ (or another envar) that will cause TZ to automatically follow the MVS time. Maybe open another RFE? :-) On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 12:53 PM Paul Gilmartin < 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:08:12 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: > >... maybe there should be a special setting for TZ (or another envar) >that will cause TZ to automatically follow the MVS time. >Maybe open another RFE? :-) > Wrong approach because of insufficient information. It must go the opposite way,

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
>From *which* time zone? You may have different processes running with >different values for TZ. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul Gilmartin

Using a Variable in an IPCS LENGTH tatement

2019-12-30 Thread esst...@juno.com
Hello, . After much testing and research I have the following RUNCHAIN command - IP RUNC ADDRESS(50_40713830) LINK(3:7) LEN(X'30') CHAIN(1000) NULL(X'14617ADC') + DISP VERIFY EXEC((LIST X+10? LENGTH(1000)) . Im trying to avoid hard coding values where possible. . The RUNCHAIN command performs

Re: Chaning time zone for Unix based tasks

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 11:23:29 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote: >... >The correct place to set TZ (as documented in the UNIX Planning book) is >/etc/init.options. >... z/OS UNIX is brain dead in this >regard, and the "init" process environment is not inherited by blind-dubbed >processes. > >See this

Re: VSAM record length 0

2019-12-30 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
SC23-6855-30, DFSMS Using Data Sets Version 2 Release 3, pages 198-200 of the PDF in "Chapter 11. Processing Control Intervals" describe the format of the RDF and CIDF control fields in a VSAM control interval. From that documentation it does not appear to me to be an architected restriction

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
The 3850 was a redesign of the 2321 in the same sense that the QE2 was a redesign of the Boeing 747. The 3850 used tape cartridge with helical recording and staging to 3330 volumes. It wasn't remotely similar to the 2321, and its falure mode weren't remotely similar to the failure modes of the

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Not even close. The strips were stored in containers called cells, each containing 20 subcells of 10 strips. It was the cells that were arranged in a cylinder, not the strips. The 2321 extracted a single strip and wrapped the one strip around a drum to read or write it, then returned it,

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Both the jukebox and the 3488 were available on the RCA 301. Due to trademark issues RCA had to drop the RACE name, although I believe that they were able to refer to it a R.A.C.E. through the Spectra 70. DRF? Don't ask, don't tell. You're better off using the Data Disk File. -- Shmuel

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBT

Re: CBT File 120 - A new article - Member BM1912DE

2019-12-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:15:04 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Does AMATERSE let you terse an entire PDS? > From: https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.ieav100/tseres.htm A PDS must be compressed to a DASD. (I suspect it must POINT to update a prefix

Re: RCA MCF and jukebox

2019-12-30 Thread R.S.
Gentlemen, First: THANK YOU for your responses. I appreciate it much. Regarding topic: I'm looking for any information related to RCA devices, however other devices are also interesting for me, so thank you for IBM 2321 and MSS. Now it's time for small disclaimer: I have never worked with