Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> No, we are very tight on DASD space. > I am trying to get a list with a HLQ of datasets with their space > allocations to find large candidates to delete Bill, If you are intending to get large candidates, it is quite simple to do it in ISPF in 3.4 bring up the dataset list with HLQ.* and

Re: SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:53:39 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >we are having an issue recalling a migrated SMPPTS dataset. if all my past >maintenance is already received can I just delete and reallocate my SMPPTS >datasets? > I wouldn't do that before the APPLY. And I believe there is a path where

LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
How might I run an IDCAMS LISTCAT to get just the space allocations? Should I use a different utility? thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
unfortunately, I have not done an accept yet. the dataset is migrated and when I try to recall it I get the following: IGD17288I DATA SET OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS COULD NOT BE ALLOCATED NORMALLY AND IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR SPACE CONSTRAINT RELIEF (MULTI VOLUME)

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
I dont get a "RECALL" panel it just goes to a DFSMSHSM tso prompt with static messages -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> I need a large list of datasets by HLQ and space allocations as a > report for management before they are removed. If you need multiple HLQ's then you can get the information from DCOLLECT. You run DCOLLECT and use an utility to strip the data you are interested in. Thanks, Kolusu

Re: [External] Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
stupid question.when replying how do I leave the original message? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Sri h Kolusu
> stupid question.when replying how do I leave the original message? Looks like you are using GMAIL , so try this Click Gmail Settings (gear at the top right) Under the General tab, check Conversation View settings. You can turn them off or on by clicking the appropriate radio button, and

Re: [External] Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
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SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
we are having an issue recalling a migrated SMPPTS dataset. if all my past maintenance is already received can I just delete and reallocate my SMPPTS datasets? Thanks Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: is it possible to allocate two dd to same temp file ?

2021-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 18:37:28 -0700, Sri h Kolusu wrote: >> I have used >> >> //SORTIN DD DSN=&X,DISP=(OLD,PASS) >> //SORTOUT DD DSN=&X >Clark Morris, > >Please don't ever do that with a COPY operation. > It might appear to work in a small test case where the data don't exceed a single block

Re: [External] LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bill, I'm assuming you're trying to figure out how big the migrated SMPPTS dataset is for restoring it. Use an HSM HLIST command for that. Easiest is in ISPF 3.4, just enter hlist dsn(/) on the line with the dataset name you want to see. You should get something like this back.

Re: SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
Bill, Do you mean "already ACCEPTED"? My simple answer could be yes in that case. Regardless, I let SMP/E purge upon ACCEPT. Don't you have a backup copy made prior to migration? Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Friday,

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Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
that is under our storage teams controlbeen waiting -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: [External] Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
Or once you find out how much space the SMPPTS needs, you could potentially migrate 1 or more large datasets to free up space temporarily. Then restore the SMPPTS, accept the maintenance you can (with purge to delete the accepted PTFs from the PTS), compress then free space in the PTS to

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
How are you attempting to recall the dataset? Using ISMF to list the dataset, type HRECALL next to the dataset and on the RECALL panel specify a different volume that has enough contiguous space. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread PINION, RICHARD W.
If you have FDREPORT from IDP/Compuware/BMC, that's a good tool. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 11:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: LISCAT with space allocations [External Email. Exercise

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
I need a large list of datasets by HLQ and space allocations as a report for management before they are removed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: SMF field data

2021-09-03 Thread Martin Packer
I think it's perfectly valid to have a blank QWHCEUWN - End User Workstation Name. What Db2 connection type (QWHCATYP) and reason for invoking accounting (QWACRINV) values do you have? Cheers, Martin Martin Packer WW z/OS Performance, Capacity and Architecture, IBM Technology Sales

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
TSO: LISTDS dsn LABEL IEHLIST: LISTVTOV FORMAT,DSNAME=dsn,VOL=device=serial Numerous programs on the CBT tape, e.g., VTOC. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: [External] LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
No, we are very tight on DASD space. I am trying to get a list with a HLQ of datasets with their space allocations to find large candidates to delete Bill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Bill, What is the issue with trying to recall the migrated SMPPTS? Is it a case of the dataset is gone, bad tape etc.? Or is it just space issues precluding getting it recalled back to primary disk? I would presume you meant that all the maintenance is ACCEPTed, not just RECEIVEd. Do you

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
Try adding another DASD volume. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Bill Giannelli [billgianne...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:43 AM To:

Re: [External] Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread Seymour J Metz
That depends on the e-mail software that you're using and the options that you have set. Are you using the gmail webmail? Listserv? A local client? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential From the standpoint of just having a SMPPTS, you will be fine. I am hesitant to state "logical" effects of any of the contents of the SMPTS. e.g. installed, but not yet accepted maintenance. If it were my dog, I would work on the recovery of t he original SMPPTS.

Re: RENT binder option

2021-09-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:02:07 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: > I found IBM RENT modules that modified themselves >15 years ago when I was experimenting to see what would >happen if we tried to page-protect RENT modules. I have a list: > Have you a similar list of IBM REFR modules that modify

Re: SMF field data

2021-09-03 Thread Charles Mills
Yes, the fields are not "intuitive." It is hard to predict -- or at least it was for me -- what fields would be populated under what circumstances. I am going to venture a wild guess that the BMC report is correct. (I don't work for BMC, and I am not familiar with the specific product.) Charles

Re: SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread Mark Jacobs
Look at the SMP/e CAUSER report and see what is/are the hold reasons. Then it depends on what they are. Bypass or not. There's no need to exclude them. Just expect an RC=8 on the apply. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: SMF field data

2021-09-03 Thread Martin Packer
Having been that novice several times over :-) I agree with you. Hopefully I got it right in https://github.com/MartinPacker/Db2-DDF-Analysis-Tool. If not it's open source so someone can correct it... :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer WW z/OS Performance, Capacity and Architecture, IBM

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Mike Schwab
If you disable some volumes, it won't use that volume for allocations, but will if the data set won't fit on the remaining volumes. It would take some time, but should get you a volume with enough space. Some sites rotate this to 10% of the least used volumes on a daily basis. On Fri, Sep 3,

SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread Bill Giannelli
running an apply check and getting the following on several sysmods: GIM30206E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD UI76575. HOLD REASON IDS WERE NOT RESOLVED What would the proper next steps be? Look into each sysmod for the hold reason or exclude these sysmods? Bill

Re: SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
You can add BYPASS( HOLDSYSTEM HOLDUSER HOLDCLASS(UCLREL,ERRELL) And see which one are still held due to error. I agree with the folks that it's safe to just run, expect an 8, and see what's left. But, I usually did try

Re: SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread James Crudele
I usually evaluate the holds. Then bypass them. Don’t bypass the errors though. A friend did that once. Not good. > On Sep 3, 2021, at 13:20, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > running an apply check and getting the following on several sysmods: > GIM30206E ** APPLY PROCESSING FAILED FOR SYSMOD

Re: SMF field data

2021-09-03 Thread Charles Mills
Yeah, the layout is complex and hard to fathom, but once you get your code right it is going to work every time. I am going to guess the BMC report falls into that category. I am going to struggle to say this well: not trying to be insulting, but I would trust a report over the opinion of someone

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, VTOC Command Processor! (CBT File 112). It has all kinds of filters and even lets you search by partial DSNAME (not starting at the beginning.) I have a number of Batch to do stuff like this. PM me if you want examples. Regards, David On 2021-09-03 10:34, Bill Giannelli wrote: How

Re: is it possible to allocate two dd to same temp file ?

2021-09-03 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 2 Sep 2021 18:37:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main skol...@us.ibm.com (Sri h Kolusu) wrote: >> I have used >> >> //SORTIN DD DSN=&,DISP=(OLD,PASS) >> //SORTOUT DD DSN=& >Clark Morris, > >Please don't ever do that with a COPY operation. For SORT operation you >would be OK to refer

Re: SMF field data

2021-09-03 Thread Martin Packer
I very clearly don't work for BMC, either. :-) And it's not just professional courtesy that suggests they're almost certainly correct: 1) It's probably a more-or-less simple copy from the source to the destination - and would've been reported as a bug long ago. 2) As I indicated, the data

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Michael Brennan
Perhaps you need to set yourself as an admin within the ISMF panels to enable you to get a 'HRECALL' panel. ISMF option 0.0 make sure User mode is set to 2. If not then set it to 2, back completely out of the ISMF panels then go back in. Hopefully security does not get in your way in

Re: LISCAT with space allocations

2021-09-03 Thread James Crudele
Quickref? Maybe. > On Sep 3, 2021, at 11:15, Bill Giannelli wrote: > > I need a large list of datasets by HLQ and space allocations as a report for > management before they are removed. > > -- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
It's always advisable to read the HOLDDATA, often these are advisory in nature, could be "check region size is a minimum" or "these parameters are now obsolete and will be ignored". If you are happy that you understand the hold reasons, as previous posters said you can BYPASS. On Sat, Sep 4,

Re: SMPe GIM30206E

2021-09-03 Thread Retired Mainframer
At my last site, the Quality Control folks would not accept anything higher than a four on a job they were required to review. This was a result of some product teams bamboozling them on 8s and 12s in the past. Management did not like it when the customers discovered delivery errors. Once QC

Re: RENT binder option

2021-09-03 Thread CM Poncelet
At the risk of inviting 'flak', I suspect that there is a misconception of what RENT and REFR modules actually are.   By definition, RENT and REFR modules should never modify themselves (excluding the peculiar case of a RENT module that ENQ's on part of its code, modifies it, restores it to what

Re: [External] SMPe deleting SMPPTS after receive

2021-09-03 Thread Mike Schwab
Sorry. DISABLE,NEW won't allow ANY allocations on that volume. QUIENSCENCE will suppress allocations to that volume unless it won't fit on any ENABLED volumes. On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 11:34 AM Mike Schwab wrote: > > If you disable some volumes, it won't use that volume for allocations, > but

Re: RENT binder option

2021-09-03 Thread Jim Mulder
1. No. I would expect any such incidences to be treated as a defect and fixed. 2. No 3. It was REFR and is still REFR. It was just a simple code bug, passing a field in the static area to BPX1OPT for a return parameter that gets modified by BPX1OPT. Jim Mulder z/OS Diagnosis,

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