Re: COBOL 6.2 - use of identical data name in a nested COMMON subprogram generates a IGYPS0037-S compiler error

2021-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for the reply Tom. I am of the opinion that the wording of that paragraph is not clear enough. One extra sentence to make clear that the CONTAINING program definitions take precedence over CONTAINED definitions of the same name. If I can find the time I can submit an RCF to that

Re: z/OSMF Serverpac installation

2021-10-12 Thread Bill Johnson
Kurt Q & Peter Relson are worth their weight in gold. Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Tuesday, October 12, 2021, 9:39 AM, Kurt J. Quackenbush wrote: - I have attempted to model the configuration on a 2.4 software instance which I created, but although the zone names are primed with the

Re: IBM z/OS Learner's Edition

2021-10-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The 'lady' didn't know what she's talking about - this is a direct copy from the FAQ The ZD for Learners Edition is $120.00 USD per year for qualified applicants. See it at https://ibm.github.io/zdt-learners-edition-about/ Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com Github:

Re: IBM z/OS Learner's Edition

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
The lady who contacted me said $120.00 per month, not year. Too much for me for a hobby. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:20 AM Lionel B. Dyck wrote: > More information https://ibm.github.io/zdt-learners-edition-about/ > > According to this there are 3 steps to acquire with the 3rd being to > contact

Re: IBM z/OS Learner's Edition

2021-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Then their website is lying - you should counter her by pointing her to the website and threaten reporting to gov't agencies if she balks. Ask to talk to her manager first though. That usually gets better results. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Ward Able, Grant
Associate Director :-) Regards - Grant. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Worry more about your character than your reputation.  Character is what you are, reputation merely what others think you are. - John Wooden If you don't have time to

Re: CICS VSAM LSR pools and IBM DASD PPRC type mirroring.

2021-10-12 Thread Ron Hawkins
Radoslaw, Isn't this also the case for VSAM when you lose your OS with the files open? I may be out of date or have a lapse in memory, but I recall a file journaling option that allowed CICS to roll forward/back updates to a file with LSR buffered writes. It could be just another senior

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Peter Vander Woude
I've had several different titles during my tenure at my current company. Currently it's Systems Administrator. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PSRs and SEs. They often provided the marketing folks with potential sales leads way before the manglers knew they needed stuff because the worker bees would ask for information about future HW and SW in advance of speaking to the higher ups!

Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
I have this entry in a catalog, I'd like to delete it. What's the recommended way to do so? CLUSTER --- Mark Jacobs Sent from [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com), Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key -

Re: [EXTERNAL] Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread Pommier, Rex
Are you sure you want to do that? I believe that is the self-defining entry for the catalog in question. For example, I just did a listc of one of my catalogs and this is at the top of the output: LISTC CAT(CATALOG.CICS ) IDCAMS

Re: COBOL 6.2 - use of identical data name in a nested COMMON subprogram generates a IGYPS0037-S compiler error

2021-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Indeed, that was the issue, so thank you. I still do not understand why the compiler requires that qualification in the nested subroutine. It doesn't need it in the main (outermost) program, so why in the subprogram? If I was the compiler writer I would use the "nearest" definition (i.e.,

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Cameron Conacher
I tried o get "King" once, but that did not get very far. Thanks, …….Cameron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Westerman Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 1:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [External] Re: System Programmer Titles I

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Richards, Robert B. (CTR)
I once worked for a bank and had four titles at once and a fifth for pay purposes: Infrastructure Architect Enterprise Technologist Subject Matter Expert Vice President Pay slot: Sr. Systems Programmer (but way out of that salary band) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Bill Ogden
I was a Systems Engineer (with progressive title levels) for 30 years (starting in 1966) with you-know-who, so I became a little curious about the exact meaning of the title. Over the years I discovered there was really no specific meaning to it. I am an electrical engineer but no one ever

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a larger mistake. Regards, David On 2021-10-12 10:36, Richards, Robert B. (CTR) wrote: The biggest mistake "HAL" made was dissolving PSRs and SEs. They often provided the marketing folks with potential sales leads way before the manglers

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Cameron, How about Big K'nacker? (Sounds something like Conacher) Regards, David On 2021-10-12 09:42, Cameron Conacher wrote: I tried o get "King" once, but that did not get very far. Thanks, …….Cameron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: [EXTERNAL] Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread Pommier, Rex
If you look at appendix B in the AMS Commands manual, it shows this entry in IBM's examples. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2021 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Delete

Re: [EXTERNAL] Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread Mark Jacobs
You might me right. One second And you are. Thanks for hitting me over the head. Long day. I'm running RCNVTCAT against a MCAT and it's giving me errors, trying to eyeball the catalog to see if I can find any bad entries. Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG

z/OSMF Serverpac installation

2021-10-12 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
- I have attempted to model the configuration on a 2.4 software instance which I created, but although the zone names are primed with the 2.4 values none of the dataset names have been primed with the 2.4 names. Should I set the names to their eventual values (eg SYS1.Linklib) or leave them

Re: PAX/TRS zFS

2021-10-12 Thread Lloyd Fuller
I do this, but I allocate the pax file before trying to write it.  I also specify -x OS390 to be sure to get links and other attributes. Lloyd Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPad On Monday, October 11, 2021, 4:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: On

z/OSMF Serverpac installation

2021-10-12 Thread Keith Gooding
Can anyone share any experiences with this ? My general problem is that I cannot find detailed documentation for this at a similar level to the ISPF “Installing Your Order” manual which was provided for the ISPF dialogue method. The “getting started” link with the order points to a video of a

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
I work for Optum, a company owned by UnitedHealth Group. I am a z/OS sysprog (regardless of title). My official title is "Systems Management Analyst). {Blech] On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 15:28 Herring, Bobby wrote: > I asked this question back in 2004. My boss wants to know if there are any > new

SIGP Orders

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Monk
Hello, Looking thru the z/arch POP, I noticed that SIGP order 14 is no longer listed as unassigned, but its definition and functions are missing from the POP. Can someone tell us what this order is for? Joe -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Tom Brennan
When I started the work I'm currently doing with an IBM business partner, they made a card for me that said: Sr. zEngineer IBM zEnterprise Practice It was so embarrassing I never gave it out to anyone and went to Kinko's and made my own: Mainframe Technical I'm not sure who Señor zEngineer

Re: Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread David Elliot
Why ? Is it bothering you? That is the catalog. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:57 AM Mark Jacobs < 0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I have this entry in a catalog, I'd like to delete it. What's the > recommended way to do so? > > CLUSTER ---

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
Sorry. FAQ says $120.00/yr On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:45 John McKown wrote: > Found this: https://www.ibm.com/products/z-development-test-environment > > There is a "Learner's Edition" for "eligible students and hobbyists" just > a "Contact us" without a price. > > On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 09:46

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
I prefer Arcane Wizard of Technology On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 08:42 Cameron Conacher < 03cfc59146bb-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > I tried o get "King" once, but that did not get very far. > > Thanks, > > …….Cameron > > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, and I hit Send too soon as well. There is a further FAQ later on the second page that points to a page that tells you how to qualify both for actual students and for already-experienced developers. It's going to be an interesting time. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM

IBM z/OS Learner's Edition

2021-10-12 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
More information https://ibm.github.io/zdt-learners-edition-about/ According to this there are 3 steps to acquire with the 3rd being to contact IBM Sales - I've been on an online chat with them for 30+ minutes and they have no clue (yet). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Website: https://www.lbdsoftware.com

Re: z/OSMF Serverpac installation

2021-10-12 Thread Kurt J. Quackenbush
> Things have moved on somewhat. Having cancelled the deployment > dialogue and started again (possibly with a different 2.4 software > instance - I am not sure which one I selected the first time) I > found that most of the datasets were correctly matched against the > 2.4 configuration and

Re: [EXTERNAL] Delete catalog entry, howto

2021-10-12 Thread Mike Schwab
https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/zos/2.1.0?topic=catalogs-analyzing-errors-synchronization On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 4:28 PM Mark Jacobs <0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > You might me right. One second And you are. Thanks for hitting me over > the head. Long day. > > I'm

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
Found this: https://www.ibm.com/products/z-development-test-environment There is a "Learner's Edition" for "eligible students and hobbyists" just a "Contact us" without a price. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 09:46 David Spiegel wrote: > Hi Bob, > Not allowing people to run z/OS on Intel may be a

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Yes, someone on one of the Hercules lists found that page last month, then they deleted the "Learner's Edition" info from the website. There was some chatter that someone who actually contacted IBM about getting it was told it would be back sometime in October after sales people had been

Re: System Programmer Titles

2021-10-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi john, I am aware of this vague reference, but, I meant that since the advent of affordable home computers until rather recently, this was not available (approximately 30 years). Not only that, but, if they caught you doing it, they would the sue the (expletive deleted) out of you. Just ask

Re: z/OSMF Serverpac installation

2021-10-12 Thread Keith Gooding
Thank you for your reply, Kurt. Things have moved on somewhat. Having cancelled the deployment dialogue and started again (possibly with a different 2.4 software instance - I am not sure which one I selected the first time) I found that most of the datasets were correctly matched against the

COBOL 6.2 - use of identical data name in a nested COMMON subprogram generates a IGYPS0037-S compiler error

2021-10-12 Thread Tom Ross
>The V6.2 Language Reference Manual on page 60 says this about using identic= >al names in nested programs:=20 > >"Identical names >When programs are directly or indirectly contained within other programs, e= >ach program can use identical >user-defined words to name resources. >A program

Re: IBM z/OS Learner's Edition

2021-10-12 Thread John McKown
Thanks. I might consider trying again. But it appears that marketing is not up to date on this. And, actually, I can do any "fun" development on Linux / Intel if I want to even bother. I'm becoming a gaming addict. On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 2:12 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <