Re: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

2013-08-20 Thread Jousma, David
Like this with the + sign:

oshell cp -p /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  +
/usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/
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Subject: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

Last week there was a thread that discussed copying USS files in batch mode. 
One of the examples posted was:

//OSHELL   JOB CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A
//UNIXIVP  EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1B,DYNAMNBR=20 //SYSPROC  DD  
DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.CLIST //SYSTSIN  DD  DATA,DLM=$$  oshell cp -p 
/service1/ABC* /service2/testdir/ $$ //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD DUMMY
//


My question is what is the proper method to continue a command across input 
lines when hhe command itself exceeds the physical length of the input

If I specify
 oshell cp -p /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  
/usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/ 


How do I properly continue the copy statement when it wraps the length of the 
80 position input ?

Is there a continuation character ?


Paul D'Angelo 
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MGET ERROR

2013-08-20 Thread Dazzo, Matt
The ftp commands provided by IBM below once worked with zos1.11 but now on 
zos1.13 it does not, can't be 100% sure but I believe that's when it stopped 
working. I did the upgrade from 1.11 to 1.13 so I know there were no changes 
made to the TCPIP config files. I tried adding in keyword SITE LISTSUBDIR  but 
I got the same error.

What I have to do to get the files is modify the commands to cd into SMPPTFIN 
and SMPHOLD and do a get on the file in each folder. What am I missing here? 
tks Matt


cd 2013081959238/PROD
lcd /u/st1mat/IBM/
binary
lmkdir U01302168
lmkdir U01302168/SMPPTFIN
lmkdir U01302168/SMPHOLD
lcd U01302168
mget *  (REPLACE
lcd SMPPTFIN
mget SMPPTFIN/* (REPLACE
lcd ../SMPHOLD
mget SMPHOLD/*  (REPLACE
quit
/*

EZA1736I  cd 2013081959238/PROD
EZA1701I  CWD 2013081959238/PROD
250 CWD command successful.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  lcd /u/st1mat/IBM/
EZA2581I HFS directory /u/st1mat/IBM/ is the current working directory.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  binary
EZA1701I  TYPE I
200 Type set to I.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  lmkdir U01302168
EZA2593I HFS directory /u/st1mat/IBM/U01302168 created.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  lmkdir U01302168/SMPPTFIN
EZA2593I HFS directory /u/st1mat/IBM/U01302168/SMPPTFIN created.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  lmkdir U01302168/SMPHOLD
EZA2593I HFS directory /u/st1mat/IBM/U01302168/SMPHOLD created.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  lcd U01302168
EZA2581I HFS directory /u/st1mat/IBM/U01302168 is the current working directory.
EZA1460I Command:
EZA1736I  mget *  (REPLACE
EZA1701I  TYPE A
200 Type set to A.
EZA1701I  PORT 27,1,39,74,4,141
200 PORT command successful.
EZA1701I  NLST *
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list.
226 Transfer complete.
EZA1701I  TYPE I
200 Type set to I.
EZA1701I  PORT 27,1,39,74,4,142
200 PORT command successful.
EZA1701I  RETR GIMPAF.XML
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for GIMPAF.XML.
226 Transfer complete.
EZA1617I 2720 bytes transferred in 0.270 seconds.  Transfer rate 10.07 Kbytes/se
EZA1701I  PORT 27,1,39,74,4,143
200 PORT command successful.
EZA1701I  RETR GIMPAF.XSL
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for GIMPAF.XSL.
226 Transfer complete.
EZA1617I 4800 bytes transferred in 0.320 seconds.  Transfer rate 15.00 Kbytes/se
EZA2554W Get fails: /u/st1mat/IBM/U01302168/SMPHOLD is a directory.
EZA1735I Std Return Code = 22000, Error Code = 00018
EZA1701I  QUIT
221 Goodbye.

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pax and autoconversion (was: MGET ERROR)

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:20:43 -0500, Paul Gilmartin (yes, I) wrote:
 
... Does your waystation system support pax, or equivalently,
tar?

I've done things similar to (from memory; not verbatim tested):

ssh waystation tar -cf - U01302168 |
iconv -f IBM-1047 -t ISO8859-1   |# I hate EBCDIC!
tar -xvf -
 
Could this be done relying on autoconversion, omitting the explicit
iconv, with either pax or tar?

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Re: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

2013-08-20 Thread Kirk Wolf
Only IBM would see the wisdom in running TSO in batch in order to run a
z/OS Unix shell :-)

The rational way would be where the z/OS shell input was read its stdin
from a DD just like it works interactively:

// EXEC PGM=??
//STDIN DD *
cp -p -R /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  \
   /usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/
//

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS Co:Z Batch is just a utility.  It is part of the Co:Z Toolkit and is
free to use under our Community License; Enterprise License and Support
agreements are also available.
http://www.dovetail.com/products/cozbatch.html

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Re: MGET ERROR

2013-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
I dispense with making individual directories. 

lcd /u/mydir
binary   
mget *  (REPLACE 
mget SMPPTFIN/* (REPLACE 
mget SMPHOLD/*  (REPLACE 
quit 

After the FTP is complete I rename the files to:

SMPHOLD.pax.Z
SMPMCS.pax.Z

Then I run the unzip.

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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UK GSE Conference 2013 - Registration is open

2013-08-20 Thread Mark Wilson
All,

I am pleased to announce that the agenda for the Large Systems Stream at this 
years GSE conference is now finalised.

Details can be found here:

http://tyc.gse.org.uk/gse/presentation/view-all

Registration is open and details can be found here:

http://tyc.gse.org.uk/gse/presentation/view-all

You need to scroll to the bottom of the page and select the Click Here To 
Register icon.

Look forward to seeing many of you in Whittlebury.
Regards,

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Re: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:19:20 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:

Only IBM would see the wisdom in running TSO in batch in order to run a
z/OS Unix shell :-)

(Yah, but who other than IBM would have conceived of a z/OS Unix
shell, EBCDIC based even, in the first place?)

The rational way would be where the z/OS shell input was read its stdin
from a DD just like it works interactively:

// EXEC PGM=??
//STDIN DD *
cp -p -R /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  \
   /usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/
//
I suspect there's a third-party utility available, at a very attractive price,
that does something like that.

Of course that particular command will fit in a 100-character PARM
to BPXBATCH.

And when 2.1 becomes available, PARMDD will support enormous
PARMs.

And I believe I can do something similar with BPXWUNIX.  But only
IBM (and I) would see the wisdom in running IRXJCL in batch in
order to run a z/OS Unix shell.

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Re: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

2013-08-20 Thread John McKown
If I'm doing UNIX only work, I use Co:Z. But if I need to intermix TSO and
UNIX, then I use the TMP and OSHELL. And I often use OSHELL examples here
simply because many shops are restricted from installing unapproved
software. I am blessed in that I can install most anything so long as I
don't spend money or introduce reliability issues.

I would love it if IBM would adopt Co:Z like it did your JZOS.


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:

 Only IBM would see the wisdom in running TSO in batch in order to run a
 z/OS Unix shell :-)

 The rational way would be where the z/OS shell input was read its stdin
 from a DD just like it works interactively:

 // EXEC PGM=??
 //STDIN DD *
 cp -p -R /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  \
/usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/
 //

 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

 PS Co:Z Batch is just a utility.  It is part of the Co:Z Toolkit and is
 free to use under our Community License; Enterprise License and Support
 agreements are also available.
 http://www.dovetail.com/products/cozbatch.html

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Re: MGET ERROR

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2013-08-20, at 07:35, Bob Shannon wrote:

 I dispense with making individual directories. 
 
 lcd /u/mydir
 binary   
 mget *  (REPLACE 
 mget SMPPTFIN/* (REPLACE 
 mget SMPHOLD/*  (REPLACE 
 quit 
 
 After the FTP is complete I rename the files to:
 
 SMPHOLD.pax.Z
 SMPMCS.pax.Z
 
 Then I run the unzip.
  
Hmmm.  Does SMP/E understand that envelope if those files aren't
in those particular individual directories?  I thought the GIMPAF
manifests expect them there.

Is there any advantage of unzip (I assume GIMUNZIP) over
a direct RECEIVE FROMNTS?

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Re: USS Continuation (Was Coptying Unix Files)

2013-08-20 Thread David Crayford
On 20/08/2013, at 10:10 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I'm doing UNIX only work, I use Co:Z. But if I need to intermix TSO and
 UNIX, then I use the TMP and OSHELL. And I often use OSHELL examples here
 simply because many shops are restricted from installing unapproved
 software. I am blessed in that I can install most anything so long as I
 don't spend money or introduce reliability issues.
 
 I would love it if IBM would adopt Co:Z like it did your JZOS.
 

Me too! It's a joy to use. 

 
 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Kirk Wolf k...@dovetail.com wrote:
 
 Only IBM would see the wisdom in running TSO in batch in order to run a
 z/OS Unix shell :-)
 
 The rational way would be where the z/OS shell input was read its stdin
 from a DD just like it works interactively:
 
 // EXEC PGM=??
 //STDIN DD *
 cp -p -R /usr/lpp/cics_test/utill/  \
   /usr/lpp/cics_prod/utill/
 //
 
 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com
 
 PS Co:Z Batch is just a utility.  It is part of the Co:Z Toolkit and is
 free to use under our Community License; Enterprise License and Support
 agreements are also available.
 http://www.dovetail.com/products/cozbatch.html
 
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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello great Lizette, thanks for the reply :)

We are using z/OS 1.12 and SDSF=HQX7770. We are also using ACF2.

Operator authority is not a problem, team specific access is;

The problem is that some prod jobs have a NOTIFY of, let's say, NOTIFY=ABCD001 
and we have a GPLEN(4) on isfparms, so all users that start with ABCD would 
have access over that job. The jobname itself doesn’t start with ABCD.
Also, users have access to all jobs that start with the 4 first characters of 
their userid, and I couldn't find an easy way to do that though JESSPOOL that 
would not include defining tons of SAF profiles (one for each prefix).

Any insight? 

Thanks!
Leo


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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

What version of z/OS and/or SDSF?

Which SAF are you going to?  RACF, TSS, ACF2

The section on Security to SAF in SDSF manual SDSF Operation and Customization  
SA22-7670   should be helpful

You can give operators access to jobs, output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets 
for a particular destination, without authorizing the operators to those jobs, 
output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets through the JESSPOOL class.

This destination operator authority is the equivalent of specifying DEST for 
CMDAUTH and ADEST for DSPAUTH in ISFPARMS. This is also used for authorizing 
destinations as described in “Destination names” on page 182.

To provide destination operator authority you:
1. Give the user READ authority to the ISFOPER.DEST.jesx profile in the SDSF 
class. This identifies a user as a destination operator for the SDSF session.
2. Give the user authorization for the profiles that protect destinations for 
jobs,



Lizette

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Subject: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello list,

We are willing to migrate from ISFPARM to SAF for our SDSF security, the thing 
that is preventing us is that there is no direct replacement for NOTIFY or 
GROUP in the CMDAUTH and DSPAUTH parameters.

Any of you had a problem with this and could manage a workaround?

Regards,
Leonardo Vaz

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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello Efinell15,

Unfortunatelly we use ACF2, and that rexx doesn't even create the RACF commands 
since it tries to issue some racf commands to create the list, also, since 
there is no one-to-one relation for the GROUP and NOTIFY, I wonder what that 
would generate.

Regards,
Leo

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ISFACR will convert the ISFPARMS member to RACF commands?



In a message dated 08/19/13 21:30:29 Central Daylight Time, 
stars...@mindspring.com writes:
What version of z/OS and/or SDSF? 

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Re: Man Pages for Ported Tools?

2013-08-20 Thread John McKown
On my system I do:

export MANPATH=${MANPATH}:/usr/lpp/ported/man/%L

I can then do a man ... for things like curl, bzip2, sudo


On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:

 Should the man pages for Ported Tools be there (where?) if
 the Tools have been installed properly?

 Thanks,
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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Leonardo,

You might, if you have not done so, join the RACF newsgroup.  Even though you 
will be doing this for ACF2, they have a good knowledge of the JESSPOOL process 
and might be able to provide some suggestions.

Racf newsgroup http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html


There is also an ACF2 newsgroup you might want to join as well if you have not 
done so
It is on Yahoo groups   acf...@yahoogroups.com

Lizette



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Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello great Lizette, thanks for the reply :)

We are using z/OS 1.12 and SDSF=HQX7770. We are also using ACF2.

Operator authority is not a problem, team specific access is;

The problem is that some prod jobs have a NOTIFY of, let's say, NOTIFY=ABCD001 
and we have a GPLEN(4) on isfparms, so all users that start with ABCD would 
have access over that job. The jobname itself doesn’t start with ABCD.
Also, users have access to all jobs that start with the 4 first characters of 
their userid, and I couldn't find an easy way to do that though JESSPOOL that 
would not include defining tons of SAF profiles (one for each prefix).

Any insight? 

Thanks!
Leo


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

What version of z/OS and/or SDSF?

Which SAF are you going to?  RACF, TSS, ACF2

The section on Security to SAF in SDSF manual SDSF Operation and Customization  
SA22-7670   should be helpful

You can give operators access to jobs, output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets 
for a particular destination, without authorizing the operators to those jobs, 
output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets through the JESSPOOL class.

This destination operator authority is the equivalent of specifying DEST for 
CMDAUTH and ADEST for DSPAUTH in ISFPARMS. This is also used for authorizing 
destinations as described in “Destination names” on page 182.

To provide destination operator authority you:
1. Give the user READ authority to the ISFOPER.DEST.jesx profile in the SDSF 
class. This identifies a user as a destination operator for the SDSF session.
2. Give the user authorization for the profiles that protect destinations for 
jobs,



Lizette

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Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello list,

We are willing to migrate from ISFPARM to SAF for our SDSF security, the thing 
that is preventing us is that there is no direct replacement for NOTIFY or 
GROUP in the CMDAUTH and DSPAUTH parameters.

Any of you had a problem with this and could manage a workaround?

Regards,
Leonardo Vaz

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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Norman.Hollander
Leonardo-
You may consider opening a Problem Ticket with CA with the ACF2 team.  They 
have done this setup
many times before.  No need to re-invent the wheel.

zNorman

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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:17 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Leonardo,

You might, if you have not done so, join the RACF newsgroup.  Even though you 
will be doing this for ACF2, they have a good knowledge of the JESSPOOL process 
and might be able to provide some suggestions.

Racf newsgroup http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html


There is also an ACF2 newsgroup you might want to join as well if you have not 
done so
It is on Yahoo groups   acf...@yahoogroups.com

Lizette



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello great Lizette, thanks for the reply :)

We are using z/OS 1.12 and SDSF=HQX7770. We are also using ACF2.

Operator authority is not a problem, team specific access is;

The problem is that some prod jobs have a NOTIFY of, let's say, NOTIFY=ABCD001 
and we have a GPLEN(4) on isfparms, so all users that start with ABCD would 
have access over that job. The jobname itself doesn’t start with ABCD.
Also, users have access to all jobs that start with the 4 first characters of 
their userid, and I couldn't find an easy way to do that though JESSPOOL that 
would not include defining tons of SAF profiles (one for each prefix).

Any insight? 

Thanks!
Leo


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

What version of z/OS and/or SDSF?

Which SAF are you going to?  RACF, TSS, ACF2

The section on Security to SAF in SDSF manual SDSF Operation and Customization  
SA22-7670   should be helpful

You can give operators access to jobs, output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets 
for a particular destination, without authorizing the operators to those jobs, 
output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets through the JESSPOOL class.

This destination operator authority is the equivalent of specifying DEST for 
CMDAUTH and ADEST for DSPAUTH in ISFPARMS. This is also used for authorizing 
destinations as described in “Destination names” on page 182.

To provide destination operator authority you:
1. Give the user READ authority to the ISFOPER.DEST.jesx profile in the SDSF 
class. This identifies a user as a destination operator for the SDSF session.
2. Give the user authorization for the profiles that protect destinations for 
jobs,



Lizette

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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello list,

We are willing to migrate from ISFPARM to SAF for our SDSF security, the thing 
that is preventing us is that there is no direct replacement for NOTIFY or 
GROUP in the CMDAUTH and DSPAUTH parameters.

Any of you had a problem with this and could manage a workaround?

Regards,
Leonardo Vaz

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Re: SHARE Proceedings

2013-08-20 Thread Norman.Hollander
My SF disc just came the during the week of Share.  You can find last week's
sessions
At www.SHARE.org.  They will be generally available until the next
conference.  There may
be updates in BOS that were not included in the SF sessions.

zNorman 

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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 7:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SHARE Proceedings

I did not attend in Boston.  However, the last one in San Fran did have DVDs
of the presentations. It did take many weeks before it showed up.

Lizette


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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 7:22 AM
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Subject: SHARE Proceedings

Is there a way to go to the website and download *all* available proceeding
handouts/presentations without selecting them one by one?

My boss went to Boston and said there is no longer a SHARE CD. When did that
stop (senior moment)?

Bob

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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Hello Norman, thank you for the tip. I will do this right away!

Regards,
Leo

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Leonardo-
You may consider opening a Problem Ticket with CA with the ACF2 team.  They 
have done this setup many times before.  No need to re-invent the wheel.

zNorman

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Leonardo,

You might, if you have not done so, join the RACF newsgroup.  Even though you 
will be doing this for ACF2, they have a good knowledge of the JESSPOOL process 
and might be able to provide some suggestions.

Racf newsgroup http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html


There is also an ACF2 newsgroup you might want to join as well if you have not 
done so
It is on Yahoo groups   acf...@yahoogroups.com

Lizette



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Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09 AM
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Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello great Lizette, thanks for the reply :)

We are using z/OS 1.12 and SDSF=HQX7770. We are also using ACF2.

Operator authority is not a problem, team specific access is;

The problem is that some prod jobs have a NOTIFY of, let's say, NOTIFY=ABCD001 
and we have a GPLEN(4) on isfparms, so all users that start with ABCD would 
have access over that job. The jobname itself doesn’t start with ABCD.
Also, users have access to all jobs that start with the 4 first characters of 
their userid, and I couldn't find an easy way to do that though JESSPOOL that 
would not include defining tons of SAF profiles (one for each prefix).

Any insight? 

Thanks!
Leo


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

What version of z/OS and/or SDSF?

Which SAF are you going to?  RACF, TSS, ACF2

The section on Security to SAF in SDSF manual SDSF Operation and Customization  
SA22-7670   should be helpful

You can give operators access to jobs, output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets 
for a particular destination, without authorizing the operators to those jobs, 
output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets through the JESSPOOL class.

This destination operator authority is the equivalent of specifying DEST for 
CMDAUTH and ADEST for DSPAUTH in ISFPARMS. This is also used for authorizing 
destinations as described in “Destination names” on page 182.

To provide destination operator authority you:
1. Give the user READ authority to the ISFOPER.DEST.jesx profile in the SDSF 
class. This identifies a user as a destination operator for the SDSF session.
2. Give the user authorization for the profiles that protect destinations for 
jobs,



Lizette

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Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello list,

We are willing to migrate from ISFPARM to SAF for our SDSF security, the thing 
that is preventing us is that there is no direct replacement for NOTIFY or 
GROUP in the CMDAUTH and DSPAUTH parameters.

Any of you had a problem with this and could manage a workaround?

Regards,
Leonardo Vaz

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Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

2013-08-20 Thread Norman.Hollander
Sure- glad to help.  Tip of the day: never be afraid to open problem tickets 
with your vendors.
That's what your maintenance dollars go to (well some of them)...
zNorman

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Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:21 AM
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Hello Norman, thank you for the tip. I will do this right away!

Regards,
Leo

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Norman.Hollander
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Leonardo-
You may consider opening a Problem Ticket with CA with the ACF2 team.  They 
have done this setup many times before.  No need to re-invent the wheel.

zNorman

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:17 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Leonardo,

You might, if you have not done so, join the RACF newsgroup.  Even though you 
will be doing this for ACF2, they have a good knowledge of the JESSPOOL process 
and might be able to provide some suggestions.

Racf newsgroup http://www.listserv.uga.edu/archives/racf-l.html


There is also an ACF2 newsgroup you might want to join as well if you have not 
done so
It is on Yahoo groups   acf...@yahoogroups.com

Lizette



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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:09 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello great Lizette, thanks for the reply :)

We are using z/OS 1.12 and SDSF=HQX7770. We are also using ACF2.

Operator authority is not a problem, team specific access is;

The problem is that some prod jobs have a NOTIFY of, let's say, NOTIFY=ABCD001 
and we have a GPLEN(4) on isfparms, so all users that start with ABCD would 
have access over that job. The jobname itself doesn’t start with ABCD.
Also, users have access to all jobs that start with the 4 first characters of 
their userid, and I couldn't find an easy way to do that though JESSPOOL that 
would not include defining tons of SAF profiles (one for each prefix).

Any insight? 

Thanks!
Leo


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:30 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

What version of z/OS and/or SDSF?

Which SAF are you going to?  RACF, TSS, ACF2

The section on Security to SAF in SDSF manual SDSF Operation and Customization  
SA22-7670   should be helpful

You can give operators access to jobs, output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets 
for a particular destination, without authorizing the operators to those jobs, 
output groups, or SYSIN/SYSOUT data sets through the JESSPOOL class.

This destination operator authority is the equivalent of specifying DEST for 
CMDAUTH and ADEST for DSPAUTH in ISFPARMS. This is also used for authorizing 
destinations as described in “Destination names” on page 182.

To provide destination operator authority you:
1. Give the user READ authority to the ISFOPER.DEST.jesx profile in the SDSF 
class. This identifies a user as a destination operator for the SDSF session.
2. Give the user authorization for the profiles that protect destinations for 
jobs,



Lizette

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Leonardo Vaz
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 1:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: SDSF ISFPARMs to SAF security

Hello list,

We are willing to migrate from ISFPARM to SAF for our SDSF security, the thing 
that is preventing us is that there is no direct replacement for NOTIFY or 
GROUP in the CMDAUTH and DSPAUTH parameters.

Any of you had a problem with this and could manage a workaround?

Regards,
Leonardo Vaz

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Re: Man Pages for Ported Tools?

2013-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 11:16:35 -0500, John McKown wrote:

export MANPATH=${MANPATH}:/usr/lpp/ported/man/%L
 
Works for me, too.  Thanks.

Fairly Mysterious; I see:

SPPG@MVS3:134$ ( cd /usr/lpp/ported/man amp; find . -ls  )
241 drwxr-xr-x   3 SSSV OMVS  288 Oct  2  2011 .
251 drwxr-xr-x   3 SSSV OMVS  288 Oct  2  2011 ./C
261 drwxr-xr-x   2 SSSV OMVS  288 Oct  2  2011 ./C/man1
27  324 -rw-r--r--   2 SSSV OMVS   655360 Oct  2  2011 
./C/man1/hpuza200.book

How dey do dat?  Is the big thing some sorta archive?

-- gil

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