Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Suresh, Maybe Mike went home, so I will answer your question: IBM will always charge the peak of the month, no matter how you changed the MSUs during the month. So if you can delay adding MSUs until the second of the next month, they will not be charged in the current month. Also if you plan to

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread suresh chacko
Thanks Vernooij. That answers the qn. Cheers On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: Suresh, Maybe Mike went home, so I will answer your question: IBM will always charge the peak of the month, no matter how you changed the MSUs during the month.

Re: Has anyone measured CPU savings using external SORT's vs. internal (COBOL) SORT's?

2013-12-05 Thread Martin Packer
A bit late to the discussion but did the O.P. consider REPLACING the COBOL code with a pure DFSORT / ICETOOL implementation? That MIGHT remove duplicate data moves. Such a process a customer and I worked together on last week took a 200 minute job and made it run in 10 minutes. YMMV. :-)

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In CAE1XxDF6a57+wPEJsLQesOTun3OFeq-ObR=zudw++gw9ceg...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/04/2013 at 10:09 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said: We're not dealing with what Google wishes to honor, Of course we are. We're dealing with the problem of resolving semantic ambiguity, No. We're dealing

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In b870629719727b4ba82a6c06a31c29124c5781e...@hqmailsvr01.voltage.com, on 12/04/2013 at 07:46 AM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com said: Well, common sense would suggest www.google.comhttp://www.google.com. Common sense is frequently wrong. Try that. BTDT,GTS -- Shmuel (Seymour J.)

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In caajsdjg7hhfkk5jwq7u9xytddqzfrk9jak2mculh5oogztq...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/04/2013 at 11:09 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: NVT? See TELNET PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION, RFC 854. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1mhu99pv4m3ki96ug6d0g46nb44j1bc...@4ax.com, on 12/04/2013 at 11:16 AM, Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca said: What was the VMS facility like? Part of the naming syntax was a version number, and there was a command to control how many versions of a specific file to retain. If you

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread Joel C. Ewing
Depending, of course, on whether you have cyclic workload peaks and where during the month they fall. For example, if all your hottest 4-hour averages are consistently during the last week of the month, then typically the effect of changes will only be seen when you encounter that cyclic peak

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
And then, of course, those pesky end-users do billion row queries all at the same time and your peaks get set higher than normal. Suresh, take a look at potentially using group capacity coupled with lpar-level defined capacity. See if that combination gives you the level of control you are

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Suresh said the question was anwered. I think we are creating complicating situations that ask for even more complicated solutions. I thing lowering MSUs on the 1st of the month and raising the MSUs on the 2nd, simply prevents unintended billing problems, without having to care about

Re: 4-Hour Rolling Average in sub capacity reporting

2013-12-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Kees, It prevents nothing if the horses have already left the barn (if he has already hit his peak for the month). Now if Suresh can tell us that he is tracking the four-hour rolling average and knows that his workload definitely increases on the first of the month, then perhaps his idea has

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In caajsdjg7hhfkk5jwq7u9xytddqzfrk9jak2mculh5oogztq...@mail.gmail.com, on 12/04/2013 at 11:09 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com said: NVT? See TELNET PROTOCOL SPECIFICATION, RFC 854.

CoD On/Off (capacity on demand) question

2013-12-05 Thread R.S.
Technical question about CoD: I have 706 machine with CoD contract. That means I can temporarily upgrade it do 712 (up to 100% actually, 712 is 100%, nevermind). Of course the more CPs activated the more money is to paid. On resourcelink I generate an Order - electronic record. I specify

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ford
I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Dec 4, 2013, at 9:57 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:38:46 -0500, Scott Ford wrote: I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang What's *nix like? On a cursory brush, I believe VMS has a hierarchic filesystem. That's *nix like. It doesn't have an ALLOCATE command. That's

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Literal translation would be that goes, ca va is a shortened comment ca va, ie how goes it(that)?. OK would be ca va bien. Without bien it's meaningless in the context. Bien would be the OK piece, ie fine On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey zMan,

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2013-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Why did the NSA even bother to get a internet tap, when they could have just re-routed packets through their servers? (Maybe the extra delay is causing our messages to be re-sent creating duplicate messages?) http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/bgp-hijacking-belarus-iceland/ Earlier this

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ford
Yep..but on Switzerland French shall we say interesting like the Swiss German Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.com wrote: Literal translation would be that goes, ca va is a

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2013-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
Microsoft finally woke up. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/05/microsoft-u-s-government-is-a-potential-security-threat/ Microsoft is trying to change the terms of the NSA debate — literally. The company is labeling any government effort to spy on its online

Re: CoD On/Off (capacity on demand) question

2013-12-05 Thread Alan Field
Yes. When you request to add capacity on the HMC you are presented with a list of all increments from your base up to the maximum CoD. Last year we made our 509 a 510, then a 512 and back to a 511. Alan Field Technical Engineer Principal BCBS Minnesota Phone: 651.662.3546 Mobile:

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2013-12-05 19:38, Scott Ford pisze: I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang In simple words: No. VMS is similar to ...VMS, and maybe older DEC systems which I don't know (RSX-11 AFAIR). Few concepts of VMS: Unix has single root,

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
paulgboul...@aim.com (Paul Gilmartin) writes: And an alien once asked me, VM is a version of MVS, isn't it? cms had about 64kbytes of code that was the os simulator that allowed os compilers and many applications to run unmodified. the burlington mall vm370 development group was working on a

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ford
Gil and R.S., I was curious about VMS because I haven't worked on that platform. Worked many others in a past life supporting LU 6.2 file transfer on 26 platforms. But that was like a lifetime ago. I went from OS/VS2 to VSE to VM/VSE , then MVS so I feel your pain Gil Scott ford

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 6 Dec 2013 07:34:48 +1100, Wayne Bickerdike wrote: Literal translation would be that goes, ca va is a shortened comment ca va, ie how goes it(that)?. OK would be ca va bien. Without bien it's meaningless in the context. Bien would be the OK piece, ie fine Think idiom. First

Re: NSA foils much internet encryption

2013-12-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:19:55 -0600, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft finally woke up. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/05/microsoft-u-s-government-is-a-potential-security-threat/ Microsoft is trying to change the terms of the NSA debate � literally.

Re: Base-less programming

2013-12-05 Thread zMan
Ouch. SO true. On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: I've seen a lot of baseless programming in my life. Had no idea you were talking about registers in assembler. g Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Phil Smith
Tony Harminc wrote: Unfortunately that takes me to https://www.google.ca, which doesn't seem to have a search tools choice. I can force Google to go to the .com (i.e. US) site, but it's still HTTPS, and it still has no search tools that I can see. And merely quoting a phrase doesn't (contrary to

Re: Base-less programming

2013-12-05 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Ouch. SO true. Yes. In this same vein, but a bit more seriously, why don't we start using RI-programming (for Relative Immediate) or RelImm-programming. Because there is _no_ way that I can think of to write _useful_ code

U.S. bill patent troll bill passes the House.

2013-12-05 Thread John McKown
http://www.infoworld.com/t/government/patent-troll-bill-clears-house-huge-majority-232218 This _sounds_ good to me. But I ASSuME that they have written something reasonable. OOPS, my bad. -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John

Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ford
Gil, Your correct it's an idiom..slang...more or less...in 3 yrs in Switzerland I learned I needed a better accent to speak French and Swiss German and don't ask for items in French in a Swiss German canton or State..it ain't pretty Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite

Re: Base-less programming

2013-12-05 Thread Scott Ford
Fines are serious pain, worked in banking , every minute the SDLC line was down to the Fed. The bank was being fine $$$ ..per min, it gives all new meaning to pressure, oh yeah John, I hear you have been there when it's ugly Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom

Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers

2013-12-05 Thread Mike Schwab
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239984/OpenVMS_R.I.P._1977_2020_ On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang Scott ford