Re: Another C compiler shift bug?

2014-05-09 Thread retired mainframer
:: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin :: Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:36 PM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: Re: Another C compiler shift bug? :: :: On Thu, 8 May 2014 15:16:26 -0700,

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Re : Setting A SLIP For A Program Running Under CICS.

2014-05-09 Thread Peter Relson
I presume from the question that using SLIP's PVTMOD/PVTEP does not work. CICS must use either load with address or some other process to load your module. You must find out from CICS how to determine the address of your module. And then you would use the normal SLIP processing that lets you

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread John McKown
This has been an interesting thread. I rather like the escrow idea. For smaller ISVs, I wonder if it would be helpful to integrate something like git or subversion into their processing, with a secure (are there any?) off site backup master. When a change is pushed to production, it would update

Re : Setting A SLIP For A Program Running Under CICS.

2014-05-09 Thread Martin Packer
I thought CICS switched to using standard Program Fetch 25 years ago. Old V3? Does knowing that change anything? Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator, Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter /

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
I was able to get the Trace to work - after removing the -r TLS, that generated an error. *EZA2892I Secure port 21 does not allow the -a or -r start parameter * And from that trace it appears, to me, that the FTP server is not responding correctly to the z/OS client handshake.

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Bob Shannon
For smaller ISVs, I wonder if it would be helpful to integrate something like git or subversion into their processing, with a secure (are there any?) off site backup master. Why do you think this is an original idea? All ISVs deal with source code management. Some use open source

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Rob Schramm
Sorry.. was doing my post via phone.. Here is the short version of GSKSRVR trace Run a GSKSRVR for SSL trace.. the only gotcha is that it must come up before the task you want to trace. - S GSKSRVR - Restart STC - Update GSKWTR PROC to add a dataset to hold the trace. - TRACE CT,WTRSTART=GSKWTR

Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape

2014-05-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thu, 8 May 2014 12:54:04 -0500, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: If the IPLable utility tape was created on a labeled tape, then it isn't going to work and you have no choice but to IPL the installation media. (A power outage isn't going to affect a tape that's not in a

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Rob Schramm
I did a quick search and the error seems like a TLS 1.0 only issue. As I remember it, the FTP TLS on z/OS is restricted to TLS 1.0 with IBM stating something like my impression please use AT-TLS... we are done putting work into task specific TLS implementations /my impression AT-TLS provides

Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape

2014-05-09 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Jaffe On 5/8/2014 10:49 AM, Matthew Stitt wrote: You do not need a remote HMC. You just need to have the local HMC available through the Internet with remote access allowed. I do this all the time. Could

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-05-09 13:35, John McKown pisze: This has been an interesting thread. I rather like the escrow idea. I consider it as useless. - Unclear reason to do it. Why source code in escrow would help the customer? - No warranty the code is complete, well documented and up to date. Without

Re: Is it possible to have ADRDSSU dump/copy output files directly onto z/OS USS files ?

2014-05-09 Thread Tsai Laurence
Dears , bad luck , seems not working as following JCL RC=8 , with msg of ADR374E (001)-OPNCL(14), UNABLE TO OPEN DDNAME DASD, 10 . //DUMP2HFS JOB (LTSAI,81038),CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), // NOTIFY=SYSUID /* //DUMP EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=0M //DASD DD

Re: Is it possible to have ADRDSSU dump/copy output files directly onto z/OS USS files ?

2014-05-09 Thread Staller, Allan
Oh well, you will have to try something else... snip bad luck , seems not working as following JCL RC=8 , with msg of ADR374E (001)-OPNCL(14), UNABLE TO OPEN DDNAME DASD, 10 . //DUMP2HFS JOB (LTSAI,81038),CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), // NOTIFY=SYSUID /* //DUMP EXEC

Re: Is it possible to have ADRDSSU dump/copy output files directly onto z/OS USS files ?

2014-05-09 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-05-09 16:00, Tsai Laurence pisze: Dears , bad luck , seems not working as following JCL RC=8 , with msg of ADR374E (001)-OPNCL(14), UNABLE TO OPEN DDNAME DASD, 10 . //DUMP2HFS JOB (LTSAI,81038),CLASS=A,MSGCLASS=A,MSGLEVEL=(1,1), // NOTIFY=SYSUID /* //DUMP EXEC

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread John Gilmore
Radoslaw Skorupka is right to emphasize that an escrow agreement is not a panacea. Such an agreement may be all but useless, but an able lawyer who understands the software-development process can write one that is useful in extremis. Moreover, the availability of such agreements sometimes makes

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.comwrote: For smaller ISVs, I wonder if it would be helpful to integrate something like git or subversion into their processing, with a secure (are there any?) off site backup master. Why do you think this is an original

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ford
John, I like that idea. I don't know how the ‘business side’ would work. i.e.; the money …unfortunately we all have to earn a living unless your rich, then I say god bless you..We use SVN and I can test you for IBM Mainframe source its kinda ok ..I don't think its SVN. From:

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Skip Robinson
I first encountered the notion of source-in-escrow in the 80's when negotiating purchase of a well known product. History sadly saw demise of the customer while the vendor still thrives. But I'm acutely curious: after all this discussion over the pros and cons of seeking an escrow clause, does

Re: IBM C and Cobol Threading question

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ford
All: I am not trying to pour cold water on any ideas or dis-credit anyone, that's not me . I have a weird kinda legacy issue I am trying to solve. Basically, COBOL STC calling Assembler subroutines. The STC(s), are single threaded or single TCB and the real issue is we need them to run

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
Thanks, rob - I am working on this now. One issue, I don't have z/OSMF on my systems. Guess I'll be stuck with trying to create policies by hand. I seem to recall there was a stand-alone version of the policy tool, but it appears that can not be used with a z/OS 2.1 system. Starting wonder how

Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Ward, Mike S
Hello everyone, do any of you know of a utility that can compare 2 loadlibs with supposedly the same members and report if there is a discrepancy in the modules, I.E. size of module, date of linking, that type of thing? Thanks == This email, and any files transmitted

Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Staller, Allan
SUPERC (ISRUPC) will do fine. For the compare. It will easily identify any member mis-matches as well as missing members. It won't be very good at telling you what the differences are. HTH, Al Staller | Z Systems Programmer | KBM Group | (Tel) 972 664-3565 | allan.stal...@kbmg.com

Re: IBM C and Cobol Threading question

2014-05-09 Thread John Gilmore
Scott, Is this message table in fact a static one than you change only infrequently, e.g., when you also make changes in the routines that use it? If so, you should consider making it into a load module or, preferably, a program object. It can then be brought into storage using a LOAD or LOADX.

FW: FW: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape

2014-05-09 Thread August Carideo/RYE/US
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: FW: z10 IPL from Utility Tape The OP was the z/OS Lpar wouldn't activate after

Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 9 May 2014 15:25:18 +, Staller, Allan wrote: SUPERC (ISRUPC) will do fine. For the compare. It will easily identify any member mis-matches as well as missing members. It won't be very good at telling you what the differences are. Faced with such a problem once, we compared as

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
I haven't used SSL client verification by certificate, so you are past my knowledge. As an experiment, can you get a working connection using userid/password authentication. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mark

Re: Loadlib compare utility

2014-05-09 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
A number of the commercial compare utilities can perform that function. I know for a fact that Compuware's Comparex and Macro4's InSync can do this, and CA FileMaster may have that capability as well, not sure about that one. You can also get CBT file 321, COBANALZ, which will analyze a load

Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape

2014-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7981579224536763.wa.alanaltmarkus.ibm@listserv.ua.edu, on 05/08/2014 at 12:54 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com said: If the IPLable utility tape was created on a labeled tape, then it isn't going to work and you have no choice but to IPL the installation media. Why? You used

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 00c101cf6b20$a7f2b3a0$f7d81ae0$@mcn.org, on 05/08/2014 at 05:50 PM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org said: Many moons ago I wrote, as a contractor, a product for an application software company and they ended up losing the source code for the product (which they were selling as part of a

Re: IBM C and Cobol Threading question

2014-05-09 Thread Scott Ford
John, Yes sir it is static …I like the idea of a load module ..easier for sure..and I can protect it.. A big thanks.. Hey do you know if a Heap can be passed in a C thread ? Regards, Scott From: John Gilmore Sent: ‎Friday‎, ‎May‎ ‎9‎, ‎2014 ‎11‎:‎26‎ ‎AM To: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: Re : Setting A SLIP For A Program Running Under CICS.

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/9/2014 5:17 AM, Martin Packer wrote: I thought CICS switched to using standard Program Fetch 25 years ago. Old V3? Does knowing that change anything? CICS uses directed LOADs for modules found in the DFHRPL concatenation. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
Oh yes. We've been doing it that way for years. Trying to add the ability to secure the log in process. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: I haven't used SSL client verification by certificate, so you are past my knowledge. As an experiment, can you get a

Re: REXX EDIT of Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Jon Butler
Thanks to all for their suggestions. I have tried every permutation I can think of, but to no avail. Yes, I understand some permutations are ignored but I tried them anywayeven IBM software has been reported to have a bug or two from time to time.. ;-)) I'm using z/OS 1.12 and ISPF 6.1.

Re: Is it possible to have ADRDSSU dump/copy output files directly onto z/OS USS files ?

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-05-09, at 08:04, R.S. wrote: Try the following: STEP1: ADRDSSU to MVS dataset STEP2: copy the dataset to hfs file. This is almost certain to work, but it falls well short of the OP's desire for directly. PoC JCL appended. I used IEBCOPY rather than ADRDSSU because of my

Re: z10 IPL from Utility Tape

2014-05-09 Thread Karl Severson
Thanks for all of the replies everyone! Yes, there are several reasons that prohibit accessing the HMC via the internet the biggest being that the z10 is on a closed network. Having said that, since we do have a link, I might be able to remote into the HMC from my location. Anyway, I just got

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
Well, if your are doing the SSL server stuff, then the password is not flowing in the clear. On the other hand, my interpretation of the vsftp parm I sent a few days ago is to NOT do certificate based client authentication. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
Sorry, confused, again. We currently do userid/password authentication - without SSL. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote: Well, if your are doing the SSL server stuff, then the password is not flowing in the clear. On the other hand, my interpretation of the

RMF APIs

2014-05-09 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi all, I'm doing an assembler program that needs to know actual CPU consumption of every Lpar in the Sysplex. To address it my program is calling a Rexx that invokes SDSF environment to get this information. It works but the design is poor. Are there any other solution, maybe RMF APIs ?

Re: RMF APIs

2014-05-09 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 5/9/2014 11:13 AM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO wrote: I'm doing an assembler program that needs to know actual CPU consumption of every Lpar in the Sysplex. To address it my program is calling a Rexx that invokes SDSF environment to get this information. It works but the design is poor. Are

Re: RMF APIs

2014-05-09 Thread Staller, Allan
BCPII? snip On 5/9/2014 11:13 AM, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO wrote: I'm doing an assembler program that needs to know actual CPU consumption of every Lpar in the Sysplex. To address it my program is calling a Rexx that invokes SDSF environment to get this information. It works but the

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
Well, for what it is worth, I use the following in my userid.FTP.DATA and successfully talk to vsftp with SSL Encryption: TLSRFCLEVEL CCCNONOTIFY ; EPSV4 TRUE TLSMECHANISM FTP SECURE_MECHANISM TLS SECURE_FTP REQUIRED SECURE_CTRLCONN CLEAR

Re: EZZ9308E UNRESPONSIVE NAME SERVER

2014-05-09 Thread Eric Chevalier
We had a somewhat similar problem a few years ago. In our csse it turned out to be a firewall issue. An internal name server or resolver was trying to resolve a host name using an outside name server. The internal system was sending out EDNS queries, but our Cisco firewall/VPN appliance had an

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread zMan
You could guess, but I'd recommend you don't. I don't believe it to be true, no matter what they claim. On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Mitch mitc...@aol.com wrote: Mark: I absolutely agree. And for the likes of the larger ISVs, I would guess all of their product source code is in escrow

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
WOAH, WOAH, WOAH, what the hell? I copied and pasted your FTP.DATA file into my FTP.DATA file and now it works. Now I just have to determine what was different on yours than every iteration that I have been through so far. THANKS, I think. ;) On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Gibney, Dave

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
On looking at it, I think the TLSRFCLEVEL CCCNONOTIFY ; And/or the EPSV4 TRUE Are newish (in that they were what I had to put in to make it work the last time it broke :) It tends to break when maintenance is put on Linux or vsftp :) -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
Just to add to Mitch's comments. I was one of the developers of the said software that was given to our competitor. We held the software in Escrow with Iron Mountain, The software was mainly z/OS assembler source/macros with the SMPE build code, SMPE APAR/PTF code. We would also package the

Re: z/OS FTPS Client Linux FTP server

2014-05-09 Thread Mark Pace
One thing I just noticed as I was documenting this. I had changed my ftp server from using the GoDaddy assigned certificate to a self-signed certificate. I had send a copy of the .pem file to z/OS and added it to my keyring as Site certificate. - That is what worked. So I went back to the

REXX Symposia 2014 2015

2014-05-09 Thread Hobart Spitz
Posted to multiple lists. The 2014 REXX Symposium, in Memphis TN, has just concluded. While most were from the U.S.A., some attendees connected remotely from the U.K. and Australia and others attended in person from as far away as Holland and Austria. It was a great learning experience for REXX

Re: RMF APIs

2014-05-09 Thread Roger Lowe
On Fri, 9 May 2014 18:13:05 +, ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO 4254.itur...@bradesco.com.br wrote: I'm doing an assembler program that needs to know actual CPU consumption of every Lpar in the Sysplex. To address it my program is calling a Rexx that invokes SDSF environment to get this

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread Dno
Thank you John Sent from my iPhone On May 9, 2014, at 10:15 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: Radoslaw Skorupka is right to emphasize that an escrow agreement is not a panacea. Such an agreement may be all but useless, but an able lawyer who understands the software-development

Re: Vendor Source Code

2014-05-09 Thread CM Poncelet
Yes ... but there is a problem of the third kind where having the source code would have been useful, as follows: 1. An ISV supplies 'calculating' software (running in a separate address space) to which CICS online 4GL transactions pass parameters using cross-memory services. The