Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Mills
AMEN!

Charles
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I'm with you Scott ... I like to have the pdf on local disk.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me.

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:09:09 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:

Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links for 
completeness.
The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The others 
just popped up.

Another great technological leap backwards.
 
Indeed.  Recently it took me 20 minutes merely to copy-and-paste a line
each from two different manuals into an RCF concerning a third manual;
not what I'd want to download two manuals for.  But in retrospect it
would have been faster.

KC is javascripted to the gills.  It snatches keystrokes, even shortcuts
and takes unexpected actions, vectoring to a different page or a different
position on the current page.

The lines I wanted to copy contained anchors.  Usually I can just copy
the embedding paragraph and edit in the target window.  KC wouldn't
let me.

I tried to use Firefox Find-in-page for which FF supplies a text entry box
at the lower left of the window, but KC pops up a nav bar at bottom of
the screen, obscuring the text entry box.  Similarly, I can't get to the
horizontal scroll bar at the bottom.

And I'm using an outdated OS X which provides a window resize handle
only in the lower right corner.  Same nav bar problem.  I switched to a
different tab; resized; switched back to KC.

When I follow a link then go back to the parent page, most sites return
to that page scrolled as I left it; KC always places me at the top of that
parent, particularly irritating when that parent is a ToC.  I'm learing to
open any link in a new tab so I can return to the undisturbed parent page

Sheesh!  What about ADA?  How does all this play with an audio or Braille
reader?  (But it's monochrome, which is accesibility-compliant.)

A challenge to IBM: Provide a script-free, frames-free, popup-free
(Classic?) option for KC.

Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
when you had very little chance of reading a document written on another
computer, another word processor, or another network.
  -- Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996
http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

(Not quite apropos -- I suspect that no browser can deal comfortably with KC.)

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 10:24:21 -0400, Scott Ford wrote:

I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me.

Not me. I still prefer the .boo. In fact, most of the time, I 
still use the z/OS 1.13 books rather than the current doc 
unless I'm going to print part of it, or unless I know that I 
need something more current. In that case, I sometimes do 
a search with the 1.13 .boo, then find the corresponding 
part of the current pdf.

The exceptions to this are the Principles of Operation and
the zArchitecture Reference Summary. I use the 
Reference Summary so often that I have it printed out. I 
didn't yet have the new refsum printed this morning when 
I needed to look something up, so I printed out the one 
that I had downloaded.

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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hi Liz,

The information is in the subject. I tried to access JOBNUM and other
information that are seen in SDSF LOG cmd, but are not available to TSO
CONSOLE/GETMSG commands. Anyway, it's not an issue as I used the masking
option of the $T CJ command.

Regards,

ITschak.

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security  Risk Assessments Professional

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
wrote:

 What process are you using to intercept the HASP890 message?  Is this a
 REXX, Assembler exit or 

 What tools do you have available?  OPS/MVS, Tivoli or other automation
 tool?  What scheduling tools do you have, Jobtrac, ESP or other?

 Are jobs being submitted on hold and then the class changed?

 Are you using WLM Initiators?


 Thanks

 Lizette


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  Subject: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?
 
  I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then
 wish to
  change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable to the
  getmsg command. Any help?
 
  Regards
  Itschak
 

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Dan Little
Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite
, quirks and all.

No waiting.  No fishing around for what website might have some doc.

I am on TSO and my problem is on the mainframe so I look up what I need in
seconds...one copy for everyone!

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Paul Gilmartin 
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 19:09:09 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:

 Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links
 for completeness.
 The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The
 others just popped up.
 
 Another great technological leap backwards.
 
 Indeed.  Recently it took me 20 minutes merely to copy-and-paste a line
 each from two different manuals into an RCF concerning a third manual;
 not what I'd want to download two manuals for.  But in retrospect it
 would have been faster.

 KC is javascripted to the gills.  It snatches keystrokes, even shortcuts
 and takes unexpected actions, vectoring to a different page or a different
 position on the current page.

 The lines I wanted to copy contained anchors.  Usually I can just copy
 the embedding paragraph and edit in the target window.  KC wouldn't
 let me.

 I tried to use Firefox Find-in-page for which FF supplies a text entry
 box
 at the lower left of the window, but KC pops up a nav bar at bottom of
 the screen, obscuring the text entry box.  Similarly, I can't get to the
 horizontal scroll bar at the bottom.

 And I'm using an outdated OS X which provides a window resize handle
 only in the lower right corner.  Same nav bar problem.  I switched to a
 different tab; resized; switched back to KC.

 When I follow a link then go back to the parent page, most sites return
 to that page scrolled as I left it; KC always places me at the top of that
 parent, particularly irritating when that parent is a ToC.  I'm learing to
 open any link in a new tab so I can return to the undisturbed parent page

 Sheesh!  What about ADA?  How does all this play with an audio or Braille
 reader?  (But it's monochrome, which is accesibility-compliant.)

 A challenge to IBM: Provide a script-free, frames-free, popup-free
 (Classic?) option for KC.

 Anyone who slaps a 'this page is best viewed with Browser X' label on
 a Web page appears to be yearning for the bad old days, before the Web,
 when you had very little chance of reading a document written on
 another
 computer, another word processor, or another network.
   -- Tim Berners-Lee in Technology Review, July 1996
 http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/

 (Not quite apropos -- I suspect that no browser can deal comfortably with
 KC.)

 -- gil

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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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on 03/11/2015
   at 07:07 PM, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com said:

The information is in the subject. I tried to access JOBNUM and other
information that are seen in SDSF LOG cmd,

LOG displays syslog and is not analogous to anything in CONSOLE.
Compare what you get with getmsg with what you get after issuing
/command in SDSF.

Have you looked at IEAVM105?
 
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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 9655256407995553.wa.m42tomibmmainyahoo@listserv.ua.edu, on
03/11/2015
   at 11:16 AM, Tom Marchant
000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu said:

Not me. I still prefer the .boo.

Soo do I, but I could live with PDF if IBM would provide bookshelf and
bookindex files, even if I had to write my own application to read
them.
 
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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
CAG5iWUQJd5RT-Sn50kpYXKuF2Er_nNisZ=rgf2bmf_p52l6...@mail.gmail.com,
on 03/11/2015
   at 04:44 PM, Dan Little dwlit...@gmail.com said:

Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite

I prefer to have the bki, bks and boo files on a network file server,
so that I can get to them from a PC even if I'm not logged in to TSO.
But both works for me.
 
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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Scott Ford
Charles,

I agree , I search then if i find the .boo I download the PDF. The searches
are much faster on you local pc for sure..

Regards,
Scott

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote:

 Agreed on this also. Prefer PDF to KC except for the most trivial of
 quick searches and .boo to PDF for shelf searches. I too do *exactly*
 what Tom describes below. Search the 1.13 .boo's, and then look at the
 corresponding 2.1 PDF.

 IBM, are you listening? Your customers are speaking loud and clear.

 Charles

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 Not me. I still prefer the .boo. In fact, most of the time, I still use
 the z/OS 1.13 books rather than the current doc unless I'm going to print
 part of it, or unless I know that I need something more current. In that
 case, I sometimes do a search with the 1.13 .boo, then find the
 corresponding part of the current pdf.

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Re: MGCR in a non typical asid

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Hi Scott,

I tried the ROUTE command (ROUTE xxx,REPLY nn,Y). It failed by RACF as
all other commands comes from non typical addressspaces.

I think I don't have fingers to count the (new) z/os versions not
sup[ported since the one I am running on... I compared the macros between
1.7 and 1.13 and found that in v1.13 the gap between MGCR  MGCRE is
colsed. THis is not true in V1.7, but ... dsect IEZMGCR do have a room for
utoken! I'll change the program to generate a utoken.

Regards,

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security  Risk Assessments Professional

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:34 PM, Scott Fagen 
004e4c25b017-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:

 On Thu, 5 Mar 2015 17:29:54 +0200, Itschak Mugzach imugz...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I am running a MPF exit that works fine from user adress spaces. In
 respond
 to RACF msg ICH302D, the userid assigned is +CONSOLE. The OPERCMDS profile
 is having uacc read, but racf refuses the REPLYxx,Y
 Another command issued under the same conditions (no acce)is MVS SEND
 command, this time from mstjcl00.I am trying to avoid converting to MGCRE.

 - snip -

 If you're wedded to the idea of staying with MGCR, what *might* work is to
 get the command out of the user space and into a system address space.
 This could be accomplished by pre-pending RO cvtsname, to your REPLY
 command.  Remember to compress out any blanks for a system name that is
 less than eight characters.

 No guarantees...if you try it and it works, I'd love to know (having been
 one of the original developers of the ROUTE command...).

 Also, it looks like MGCR has been beefed up a bit to allow the
 specification of security information on the macro call:


 http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_1.13.0/com.ibm.zos.r13.ieaa800/mgcr.htm

 Scott Fagen
 Chief Architect - z Systems and Workload Automation
 CA Technologies
 Plano, TX

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Ed Finnell
And if TSO is down?
 
 
In a message dated 3/11/2015 3:45:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
dwlit...@gmail.com writes:

...one  copy for everyone!


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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 16:44:53 -0400, Dan Little wrote:

Bookmanager Read TSO is still my favorite
, quirks and all.

No waiting.  No fishing around for what website might have some doc.

I am on TSO and my problem is on the mainframe so I look up what I need in
seconds...one copy for everyone!

Not exactly; one copy for everyone*at*your*site*.  And you must refresh
for each update (do you get notifications?)

Others swear by Quick-Ref, if they pay for it.

Has anyone tried using Lobo on z/OS?  Has anyone tried accessing KC with Lobo?
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xamj/files/Lobo%20Browser/

On Wed, 11 Mar 2015 18:31:35 -0400, Ed Finnell wrote:

And if TSO is down?

Then you need the publications either not at all or very badly.

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Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Easy alignment to a 256 byte boundary?

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 18:57:53 -0400 David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote:

:Per the new PoOps:
:
:
:LZRG R1,D2(X2,B2) [RXY-a]
:
:The second operand, with the rightmost byte set to zero, is placed 
:at the first-operand location. [snip] for LZRG, the first and second 
:operands are 64 bits.
:
:
:I guess my imagination fails me, so I have to ask... Why?

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Re: Time change effect on JES2 AUTO commands

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lucas Rosalen wrote:

Mike is right.
At 2:01 you've added 3600s (to make it 3:01), so JES2 tried to catch up as 
the interval had already been more than satisfied.

Indeed and this is documented, 

quote 
If, at 1:15 a.m., the clock is set ahead two hours, making the current time 
3:15 a.m., the command will be issued immediately, at 3:15 a.m., and will be 
issued again at the next interval (two hours beyond 3:15 a.m.), which is 5:15 
a.m.
end quote

But does not 100% describe the OP's problem. I'm also puzzled by this. I 
believe we all missed something obvious.

What we're doing is, we let the automation software issues several $T commands 
(with T= and I= keywords) on the hour (whatever) or about 5 minutes after hour 
and then we let JES2 go on.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Robin Atwood
I searched the archives and found a very similar problem to mine in the thread 
https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0606L=IBM-MAINP=R34295I=-3X=D02C315241E55CCC48Y=abend922%40gmail.comd=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches
 back in 2006 and ably answered by Rob Scott. I seem to have a very similar 
problem. I am trying to convert a very ancient C module which listens for 
incoming connections and hands them off to a subtask in the same ASID. Now I 
want to handover the socket to another ASID so, following the above thread and 
the Sockets API manual, I changed the task name in the listener's client id to 
the jobname of the worker ASID and set the subtask name to blanks. I have also 
issued a getclientid() and set the task/subtask names in a system-wide 
Name/Token pair. In the worker ASID, which is written in assembler, I have 
picked up the N/T pair and inserted the value into a client id and issued 
takesocket(). The socket number is communicated via the code in a cross-memory 
post which wakes up the worker. Every time I get errno=113 (EBADF). I have 
tried setting the subtask name in the givesocket() to that used in the worker's 
INITAPI, but no difference. The client id from the listener looks like this:

TAU0200I  13:35:12.736 Socket   1 received from MFADEV  
 
TAU0015I  13:39:06.296 Before call TAKESOCKET   
 
AddressOffset   Word 1   Word 2   Word 3   Word 4 Word 5   Word 6   
Word 7   Word 8*   Storage  Content *  
1EA41614  0002 D4C6C1C4 C5E54040 0081   7F4E7D00  
   *MFADEV  ...a+'.*  
1EA41634 0020   
 *.   *  
TAU0065I  13:43:21.612 After  Call TAKESOCKET   RC :  ERRNO : 
0071   

The task name is the jobname but the subtask name is binary. Is this 
acceptable? I tried zeroing it out but that didn’t help; setting it to blanks 
produced errno=121 (illegal argument). I seem to be doing what's described in 
the manual but it just won't work. Any pointers as to what I have missed?

TIA
Robin

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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote:

I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then wish to 
change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable to the 
getmsg command. Any help?

What command did you used to get $HASP890? Please post the command and the 
results as well your code (getmsg) to retrieve the messages.

Did you also used the LONG version of your command? Something like $D J123,LONG?

Also are you making provision for receiving messages spanned across multiple 
lines?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Staller, Allan
The new tools are not as available, reliable, or efficient as their 
predecessors [1].

[1] In a bout of frustration I complained to a duty manager about the 
performance and availability of one of the new tools.
I was informed that it was still the same old green screen application w/a GUI 
front end. It  was the front end that was causing the
performance/availability issues, not the old tool . Score 1 for the PFCSK's.

snip
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Shane Ginnane
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links for 
completeness.
The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The others 
just popped up.

Another great technological leap backwards.
/snip

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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Itschak Mugzach wrote:

The command synrax us $dn,all,q=xeqk

I tried out your command just as is and got $HASP650.

I then tried $dn,all and see CLASS=A for one job as an example. So I don't see 
what the problem is.

Please look at my other questions, I believe you may have a problem using 
console and getmsg.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread nitz-...@gmx.net
 Dusting off this old thread:
 I set a slip trap that included the TCPIP address space in the address spaces 
 to be dumped. TCPIPCS socket detail on that slip dump gives me:
 
 TCPIP Socket Analysis  
 BLS18100I ASID(X'002B') 01F0_2280 not available
 
 The address is in hvcommon, according to rsmdata.
 
 How come a slip dump does not dump common storage above the bar  despite both 
 SQA and CSA being set?

Actually, I take that back. LD on the slip dump tells me that 
01F0_2280.:01F0_22900FFF. was dumped, 'belonging' to one of the other 
address spaces that I had dumped (primary asid at the time the slip hit). 
Apparently the TCPIPCS formatter only works correctly when this HVCOMMON 
storage is attributed to the TCPIP address space, as it was in the dynamic dump 
I took later. In that case this HVCOMMON storage 'belonged' to x'2b'- TCPIP. 
Duh. Is that IPCS or TCPIP at fault?

Barbara

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How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then wish
to change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable to
the getmsg command. Any help?

Regards
Itschak

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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
The command synrax us $dn,all,q=xeqk

Utschak
בתאריך 11 במרץ 2015 15:20, ‏Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za כתב:

 Itschak Mugzach wrote:

 I am trying to itercept msg$hasp890 in order to get the class. I then
 wish to change job class. The problem is that job number is not accessable
 to the getmsg command. Any help?

 What command did you used to get $HASP890? Please post the command and the
 results as well your code (getmsg) to retrieve the messages.

 Did you also used the LONG version of your command? Something like $D
 J123,LONG?

 Also are you making provision for receiving messages spanned across
 multiple lines?

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
I can tell you the intent. Each allocation of above-2G storage fits into
one of 5 should I include it in the dump? categories --
- like region (default for private)
- like LSQA
- like CSA (default for common)
- like SQA
- do not dump automatically

The intent is to dump like x when 'x' is included. Things that are do
not dump automatically are expected to be included explicitly (e.g.,
LIST64, SUMLIST64) in a dump, when needed.

Dusting off this old thread:
I set a slip trap that included the TCPIP address space in the address spaces 
to be dumped. TCPIPCS socket detail on that slip dump gives me:

TCPIP Socket Analysis  
BLS18100I ASID(X'002B') 01F0_2280 not available

The address is in hvcommon, according to rsmdata.

When I use a dump command (asynchronous to my slip trap) to just dump the TCPIP 
address space, the same command formats out everything I want to see. Same dump 
options on the system:
SDUMP- ADD OPTIONS (ALLPSA,NUC,SQA,RGN,LPA,TRT,CSA,SWA,SUMDUMP,
GRSQ),BUFFERS=K,MAXSPACE=0500M,
MSGTIME=9 MINUTES,MAXSNDSP=015 SECONDS,
AUXMGMT=ON ,DEFERTND=NO

complete dump in both cases.

How come a slip dump does not dump common storage above the bar  despite both 
SQA and CSA being set?

Barbara

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Re: CICS 4.2 to 5.1

2015-03-11 Thread Jon Butler
There is also quite an overhead...up to 30%...when you use an initial value 
INITIMG(x'40') with a GETMAIN.

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Rex Pommier
Hi Shane,

First of all, I want to make it known that I'm not a fan of the 
knowledgecenter, but that being said I tried your little unofficial experiment. 
 The KC link did come up noticeably slower this morning for me as well, but in 
my case it was a matter of about 5 seconds versus about a second.  So as 
always, YMMV, in my case it wasn't that big of an issue (this time).

Rex

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Re: LZRG??? Does this mean that 56-bit addressing is a thing?

2015-03-11 Thread David Cole

Oops. I dyslex'd the whole thing. Nevermind.






At 3/11/2015 04:06 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:

Easy alignment to a 256 byte boundary?

On Tue, 10 Mar 2015 18:57:53 -0400 David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote:

:Per the new PoOps:
:
:
:LZRG R1,D2(X2,B2) [RXY-a]
:
:The second operand, with the rightmost byte set to zero, is placed
:at the first-operand location. [snip] for LZRG, the first and second
:operands are 64 bits.
:
:
:I guess my imagination fails me, so I have to ask... Why?

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Re: Dump Defaults (Was: SLIP IF Trap?)

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7676853980546110.wa.nitzibmgmx@listserv.ua.edu, on 03/11/2015
   at 07:41 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net said:

How come a slip dump does not dump common storage above the bar 
despite both SQA and CSA being set?

Did the IARV64 macro have DUMP=NO or XMFCTRL_XDUMP_NO?
 
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Re: Economics of Mainframe Technology

2015-03-11 Thread Charles Mills
*Usually* not.

Charles

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Is there a link to the keynote or the data presented during the keynote?

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Re: Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 002401d05bd3$e8dda010$ba98e030$@gmail.com, on 03/11/2015
   at 03:18 PM, Robin Atwood abend...@gmail.com said:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Please check your listserv options for IBM-MAIN. It looks like you
were sending format=flowed but the listserv did not preserve your
Content-Type: options. As a result, the trailing blanks are not
recognized as soft line breaks.
 
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Re: How to get job number column in tso console/getmsg commands?

2015-03-11 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Works fine for me and responds with msg hasp890. Anyway, i realized i was
on a wrong root. I don't need the job number. Just change the class with
job mask like this:
$t jq,/jm=xxx,q=xeq,/c=k,c=j

Best
ITschak
בתאריך 11 במרץ 2015 15:33, ‏Elardus Engelbrecht 
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za כתב:

 Itschak Mugzach wrote:

 The command synrax us $dn,all,q=xeqk

 I tried out your command just as is and got $HASP650.

 I then tried $dn,all and see CLASS=A for one job as an example. So I don't
 see what the problem is.

 Please look at my other questions, I believe you may have a problem using
 console and getmsg.

 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Scott Ford
I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me.

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote:

 The new tools are not as available, reliable, or efficient as their
 predecessors [1].

 [1] In a bout of frustration I complained to a duty manager about the
 performance and availability of one of the new tools.
 I was informed that it was still the same old green screen application w/a
 GUI front end. It  was the front end that was causing the
 performance/availability issues, not the old tool . Score 1 for the
 PFCSK's.

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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 javascript:;] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:09 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:;
 Subject: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

 Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links
 for completeness.
 The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The
 others just popped up.

 Another great technological leap backwards.
 /snip

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Re: Knowledgecentre versus the library server

2015-03-11 Thread Sam Siegel
I'm with you Scott ... I like to have the pdf on local disk.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 7:24 AM, Scott Ford idfzos...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would rather download the PDFs,I'm think personally, it's easier more me.

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
 wrote:

  The new tools are not as available, reliable, or efficient as their
  predecessors [1].
 
  [1] In a bout of frustration I complained to a duty manager about the
  performance and availability of one of the new tools.
  I was informed that it was still the same old green screen application
 w/a
  GUI front end. It  was the front end that was causing the
  performance/availability issues, not the old tool . Score 1 for the
  PFCSK's.
 
  snip
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  javascript:;] On Behalf Of Shane Ginnane
  Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 7:09 PM
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU javascript:;
  Subject: Knowledgecentre versus the library server
 
  Reading Kolosu's latest admonishment to gil, I trundled through the links
  for completeness.
  The first (knowledgecentre) took minutes to load - yes *minutes*. The
  others just popped up.
 
  Another great technological leap backwards.
  /snip
 
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Re: Problems with takesocket in another ASID

2015-03-11 Thread Rob Scott
I do not believe that you can use non-character data in the NAME or TASK values 
in GIVE/TAKESOCKET.

Try using a test program with a single subtask with a known value - eg 
TEST0001

Also ensure that the DOMAIN value is correct in your CLIENT structure is 
correct (for both give and take) and that the INITAPI calls are using the 
correct values.

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Of Robin Atwood
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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Problems with takesocket in another ASID

I searched the archives and found a very similar problem to mine in the thread 
https://listserv.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0606L=IBM-MAINP=R34295I=-3X=D02C315241E55CCC48Y=abend922%40gmail.comd=No+Match%3BMatch%3BMatches
 back in 2006 and ably answered by Rob Scott. I seem to have a very similar 
problem. I am trying to convert a very ancient C module which listens for 
incoming connections and hands them off to a subtask in the same ASID. Now I 
want to handover the socket to another ASID so, following the above thread and 
the Sockets API manual, I changed the task name in the listener's client id to 
the jobname of the worker ASID and set the subtask name to blanks. I have also 
issued a getclientid() and set the task/subtask names in a system-wide 
Name/Token pair. In the worker ASID, which is written in assembler, I have 
picked up the N/T pair and inserted the value into a client id and issued 
takesocket(). The socket number is communicated via the code in a cross-memory 
post which wakes up the worker. Every time I get errno=113 (EBADF). I have 
tried setting the subtask name in the givesocket() to that used in the worker's 
INITAPI, but no difference. The client id from the listener looks like this:

TAU0200I  13:35:12.736 Socket   1 received from MFADEV
TAU0015I  13:39:06.296 Before call TAKESOCKET
AddressOffset   Word 1   Word 2   Word 3   Word 4 Word 5   Word 6   
Word 7   Word 8*   Storage  Content *
1EA41614  0002 D4C6C1C4 C5E54040 0081   7F4E7D00  
   *MFADEV  ...a+'.*
1EA41634 0020   
 *.   *
TAU0065I  13:43:21.612 After  Call TAKESOCKET   RC :  ERRNO : 
0071

The task name is the jobname but the subtask name is binary. Is this 
acceptable? I tried zeroing it out but that didn’t help; setting it to blanks 
produced errno=121 (illegal argument). I seem to be doing what's described in 
the manual but it just won't work. Any pointers as to what I have missed?

TIA
Robin

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