Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Charles Mills
> I believe not. If that were the case, it would have the final value, XYZZY, > in all steps Ah. I was too hasty. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 2:43 PM To: IB

Re: Accessing TIOT->JFCB segments from COBOL (June 2014)

2015-11-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Many thanks for this. Could be very useful, especially the demonstration of the use of the FUNCTION-POINTER type. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David S. Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 6:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LI

Re: Accessing TIOT->JFCB segments from COBOL (June 2014)

2015-11-06 Thread David S.
[I realize this thread is kind of old, but I have yet to find a better COBOL solution anywhere else so I thought I'd post it. This was originally posted to the "Mainframe (COBOL, etc) Experts" LinkedIn Group, which I manage for group owner Vikas Kumar, see http://linkd.in/1S4BarK ] Here's a COBOL

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
I can confirm this behavior on V2.1, and I find it counter-intuitive as well. Moving the SYSUT1 DD * and their input lines to the place where there are actual PROC executions does not change the behavior, the formulation below gives the same results as the first example. Something's wrong for s

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:31:21 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Hmmm. JCL processing versus run-time? When does the SET V2= happen? When JES >reads the job in? I suspect so. Or when it runs? > BTW, that was on z/OS 2.1. The result was the same on 2.2. But if I add a following step referencing &V2 in

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
I WISH! Although I know someone who has one :P -Connor K On 11/6/2015 5:46 PM, William Donzelli wrote: Barf. 3290 or bust. -- Will On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: 3174? If it has a Token Ring connector you could connect a Apple ][ with a token ring card as a master cons

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread William Donzelli
Barf. 3290 or bust. -- Will On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: > 3174? If it has a Token Ring connector you could connect a Apple ][ > with a token ring card as a master console. > > On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Connor Krukosky > wrote: >> On 11/6/2015 3:10 PM, Richard Pini

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:31:21 -0800, Charles Mills wrote: >Hmmm. JCL processing versus run-time? When does the SET V2= happen? When JES >reads the job in? I suspect so. > I believe not. If that were the case, it would have the final value, XYZZY, in all steps. >Or when it runs? > In fact, this e

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Mike Schwab
3174? If it has a Token Ring connector you could connect a Apple ][ with a token ring card as a master console. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote: > On 11/6/2015 3:10 PM, Richard Pinion wrote: >> >> Did you buy DASD to go with it? >> > I bought a SCSI SAN box, which should be

Re: Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Charles Mills
Hmmm. JCL processing versus run-time? When does the SET V2= happen? When JES reads the job in? I suspect so. Or when it runs? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 2:17

Premature SYMBOL substitution in SYSIN?

2015-11-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In the job fragment: //* // EXPORT SYMLIST=* //P PROC //GEN EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=(,) //SYSIN DD DUMMY //SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(,) //SYSUT1DD *,SYMBOLS=JCLONLY GENER step; with V2=&V2.. //P PEND //* // SET V2=WOMBAT *

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
Single, 18, in college, VERY TOLERANT PARENTS! -Connor K On 11/6/2015 4:48 PM, Grinsell, Don wrote: Wow! I assume you are either single or married to the most wonderful woman. Good luck. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov "We want a few mad people now. See

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Tony Thigpen
Or his mom still loves him and he lives in her basement. :-) :-) Of course, putting it in the basement was a good idea, expectantly around February. No need to turn on the oil heater while it's running. :-) Tony Thigpen Grinsell, Don wrote on 11/06/2015 04:48 PM: Wow! I assume you are eithe

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Grinsell, Don
Wow! I assume you are either single or married to the most wonderful woman. Good luck. -- Donald Grinsell State of Montana 406-444-2983 dgrins...@mt.gov "We want a few mad people now. See where the sane ones have landed us!" ~ George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950) > -Original Message- >

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Bigendian Smalls
Outstanding … very cool > On Nov 6, 2015, at 3:05 PM, Connor Krukosky wrote: > > Mine is a model 320. > I wouldn't mind getting a larger system but the problem is if I can't just > trade say the PU Book and the SE's to do this then I would like to NOT have > to go through the trouble of removi

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
Mine is a model 320. I wouldn't mind getting a larger system but the problem is if I can't just trade say the PU Book and the SE's to do this then I would like to NOT have to go through the trouble of removing the WHOLE thing from the basement again and putting another one back into the basemen

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Tony Thigpen
What model is it? I have a big one that I would trade for a 110 (the smallest model). Tony Thigpen Connor Krukosky wrote on 11/06/2015 02:55 PM: Hi I'm new to the list, was pointed here by someone because I need some help using the HMC on the z890 to get an LPAR setup to boot via FTP. I bought

Re: z/OS 2.2 Install PFA

2015-11-06 Thread Mark Pace
Never mind. I don't want to admit to how stupid I've been on this particular install. The first install for a test system went well. This install, which will eventually be the production system, not so much. On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Mark Pace wrote: > I'm confused with an error I get d

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
On 11/6/2015 3:10 PM, Richard Pinion wrote: Did you buy DASD to go with it? I bought a SCSI SAN box, which should be fine over FCP for linux which I plan to run since z/OS requires FICON storage which is expensive and getting a z/OS license going to be impossible. Also as of now I would like t

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Tom Brennan
This is so cool. Maybe try starting with something like ZZSA? I never tried, but I heard that can be IPL'd from DVD in the HMC. Leonardo Vaz wrote: Really nice indeed! I don't think you can IPL z/OS via FTP though. I guess you want to run linux? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Richard Pinion
You could IPL a stand-alone utility such as Innovation Data Processing's FDR stand-alone restore. But do you have DASD to restore to, and tape drives to restore from? --- leonardo@cn.ca wrote: From: Leonardo Vaz To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: I just bought an

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Leonardo Vaz
Really nice indeed! I don't think you can IPL z/OS via FTP though. I guess you want to run linux? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Beaver Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 3:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subjec

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Which OS do you want to run on it? Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Pinion Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 12:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: I just bought an IBM z890 Did you buy DASD to g

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Duffy Nightingale, SS
Very cool man. Wish I could help you but I'm a software guy. Pretty sure you will find your answers. Good luck! Duffy Duffy Nightingale > On Nov 6, 2015, at 11:55 AM, Connor Krukosky > wrote: > > Hi I'm new to the list, was pointed here by someone because I need some help > using the H

Re: I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Richard Pinion
Did you buy DASD to go with it? --- conn...@connorsdomain.com wrote: From: Connor Krukosky To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: I just bought an IBM z890 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:55:28 -0500 Hi I'm new to the list, was pointed here by someone because I need some he

I just bought an IBM z890

2015-11-06 Thread Connor Krukosky
Hi I'm new to the list, was pointed here by someone because I need some help using the HMC on the z890 to get an LPAR setup to boot via FTP. I bought this machine for $237 :) It wasn't fun to get into the basement but its here now. http://imgur.com/a/5uWit I have gotten it to power on and 'power-

Re: zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-06 Thread Williams, Jeff (TBS)
We're jumping from 1.13 to 2.2 at the moment. I've just restored the dasd from the order. It doesn't look like it will be too big a change, but one surprise has been the enormous increase in space required. For example, all of the USS zfs/hfs files no longer fit on a single 3390-9 any longer. I

z/OS 2.2 Install PFA

2015-11-06 Thread Mark Pace
I'm confused with an error I get during setup of PFA. Job HBB7790M runs some scripts to setup PFA. But I'm getting a failure because it can not find a file IBMUSER.PFA.TEMP and I can not find where that file gets created in the first place. -- The postings on this site are my own and don’t ne

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-06 Thread michelbutz
Thanks I understand that in the beginning SRB were quick and dirty however now they have become more robust If you can maybe guide me to the control blocks associated with them the same way TCB is associated with a task I am thinking of WEQ WUQ and SSRB Thanks so much Sent from my iPhone >

Re: zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-06 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 09:09:57 -0800, Steve Beaver wrote: >Generally was a group we all move on the odd-number releases. Does anyone >have An opinion as to moving from 1.13 to 2.2 or is that too big a jump? As Lucas wrote, it isn't too big a jump. After all, it is "only" two releases. However, wi

Re: zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-06 Thread Bob Shannon
> Generally was a group we all move on the odd-number releases. Does anyone > have An opinion as to moving from 1.13 to 2.2 or is that too big a jump? From 1.13 to 2.1 you had consecutive odd releases. I would be inclined to install 2.2. Looking forward, since the releases are every two years

Re: zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-06 Thread Lucas Rosalen
It's not a too big jump, it's a normal supported/documented upgrade path: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/e0z3m110.pdf --- *Lucas Rosalen* Emails: rosalen.lu...@gmai

zOS 2.1 vs. zOS 2.2

2015-11-06 Thread Steve Beaver
Generally was a group we all move on the odd-number releases. Does anyone have An opinion as to moving from 1.13 to 2.2 or is that too big a jump? Thanks Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruction

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-06 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
Go to http://www.syncsort.com/en/Products/Mainframe/ZPSaverSuite and see what we can do on z/IIP engines. In a nutshell, we can offload about 90% of our normal TCB workload to a z/IIP engine, your mileage may vary depending on a number of things, but we can do an awful lot. This has been a mul

Re: AW: PL/I and optional parameters

2015-11-06 Thread Jon Butler
The name of the program is ESCHATON, and irrespective of the number or value of parameters passed, always returns 42. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 6 Nov 2015 08:11:52 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >SRB's were not meant for general application code. Also, I hope nobody builds >a quick and dirty SRB routine. Those should be carefully constructed and >tested. >If by quick and dirty you mean short lived, then yes, that was th

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-06 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.
SRB's were not meant for general application code. Also, I hope nobody builds a quick and dirty SRB routine. Those should be carefully constructed and tested. If by quick and dirty you mean short lived, then yes, that was their original use case. Some SRB routines today are much more robust a

Re: BPXWUNIX and sort

2015-11-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 06:10:57 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote: > >Try setting LC_COLLATE=S370 or SAA > Looks good experimenting from shell command line: user@OS/390.24.00: locale LANG=C LC_CTYPE="C" LC_COLLATE="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_SYNTAX="C" LC_TOD="C" LC_ALL=

Re: SRB And Enclave SRB

2015-11-06 Thread Clark Morris
On 5 Nov 2015 16:07:26 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >KEY 0 is not required by an SRB. See IEAMSCHD documentation. Supervisor >state is required. For application code, isn't this an integrity exposure? Clark Morris > >On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 3:48 PM, michelbutz wrote: > >> I would

Re: BPXWUNIX and sort

2015-11-06 Thread John P. Baker
Bill, Including" LC_COLLATE=S370" resolved the problem. Thanks for your insight. John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Godfrey Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 7:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: BPXWUNIX and sort

2015-11-06 Thread Bill Godfrey
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 23:13:34 -0500, John P. Baker wrote: >Kirk, > >The following example illustrates what I am trying to do -- > >Call BPXWUNIX "sort -k 3 -k 4 -k 1 -k 2", table_in., table_out., messages_out. >; > >In the above example, "table_in." in a stem variable containing the rows to be >so

Re: RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?

2015-11-06 Thread Giliad Wilf
Much to my regret I've seen the discussion on topic "RE-IPL for the Daylight to Standard time conversion?" too late, and was unable to read all posts on the issue, so bear with me if it turns out that someone else has already mentioned an excellent publication I'm mentioning now: SG24-2070 -

AW: Re: BPXWUNIX and sort

2015-11-06 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>The problem that I am experiencing is that the data is being sorted using the >ASCII collating sequence (i.e., numerics precede alphabetics). I understand the UNIX sort shell command always sorts according to the *collating sequence* defined in the current locale. Is't not ASCII and it's not