Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 08:48:16 -0700, Nightwatch RenBand wrote: > >Add on rant... The human eye can do speed reading effectively only when >columns are a few inches wide. Spread text all across a wide screen and >comprehension rate goes straight down. There is a reason newspapers >(remember those) an

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Horein
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:54 AM, Tom Marchant < 000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > SYMBOLICRELATE is very different from using symbolic substitution in > IDCAMS control statements. The former is done dynamically every time > the alias is referenced. The latter at the time th

Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Phil Smith III
Nightwatch RenBand wrote: >Yes, PDF's are great and portable, but they are designed for print. >It is high time to come up with something better which will adapt to any >screen format. Print should be secondary these days, I think that's called "HTML". Alas, all too many "web designers

Re: Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types....

2017-10-05 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 6:19 PM, scott Ford wrote: > Beverly, > > Not surprising, a lot of manglers don't have a clue what a real systems > programmer does or know. > Especially those who only know Windoze... > > I have z/OS customers who can't install simple software without us holding > their ha

Re: Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types....

2017-10-05 Thread scott Ford
Beverly, Not surprising, a lot of manglers don't have a clue what a real systems programmer does or know. Especially those who only know Windoze... I have z/OS customers who can't install simple software without us holding their hand and doing there work for them. Sorry for the rant, been a day.

Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 17:00:28 +1100, Andrew Rowley wrote: > >... Responsive HTML ... > It's dismaying that HTML has become so perverted from its original objective that such a retronym ever arose. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: IEAVPSE parameter question

2017-10-05 Thread Mike Schwab
The cache line size is 256 bytes. The performance should be higher if the token doesn't cross that boundary. On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > Thanks! > > Should the doc contain a hint that performance would be improved if the > token were doubleword aligned? I looked and l

Re: PROCUSERMAX in OMVS Segment

2017-10-05 Thread Dan Little
Yes it does On Oct 5, 2017, 08:37 -0400, Mark Jacobs - Listserv , wrote: > This question might be better asked in the RACF or OMVS mailing lists, > but I'm starting here. > > Does a value set in the OMVS segment for PROCUSERMAX override the > setting of MAXPROCUSER in BPXPRMxx? It's documented th

Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Add on requirement: With a "flowed" format of some sort it would also be worlds easier to just extract text for non-book purposes (like Abe K.'s website of instructions). The Xpdf batch utility (Linux and Windows) pdftotext does pretty well (using the "-table" option) extracting text from the P

Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread ITschak Mugzach
Lionel I promise to create 9x16 screen format brochures next time ;-) although it was a one pager. ITschak בתאריך 5 באוק׳ 2017 5:48 אחה״צ,‏ "Nightwatch RenBand" < johnmattson...@gmail.com> כתב: > In the words of Tevye: "From your lips to God's ears". > Yes, PDF's are great and portable, but the

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Trust me - you weren't the straw that broke the camel's back ;-) -- Lionel B. Dyck Mainframe Systems Programmer - TRA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behal

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Ask and ye shall receive. Just not necessarily what you were hoping for. . . J.O.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-543-6132 Office ⇐=== NEW robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Main

Re: Interesting article in IEEE Annals of the History of Computing

2017-10-05 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
dbo...@sinenomine.net (David Boyes) writes: > IBM Branch Offices: What They Were, How They Worked, 1920s–1980s > > James W. Cortada > > Abstract: > IBM branch offices were the company’s local face around the world in > the 20th century. Its sales and customer support came out of these > organizatio

Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
And slightly mis-spelled, actual address is MHV... not MVH...: mhvr...@us.ibm.com HTH Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Hunkeler Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 2:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject

AW: Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>To make it perhaps easier to remember, I'll add that "mvhrcfs" stands for "Mid-Hudson Valley Reader Comment Forms." Poughkeepsie is located in the Mid-Hudson Valley in New York State. ROTFLOL. I always wondered about that rather difficult to remember name, but never tried to imagine what it s

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 11:20:10 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >I opened an SR on an unexpected error when I used SYMBOLICRELATE. >Support replied that the problem was that I had no symbols in my alias. But >though z/OS 2.1, the IDCAMS Ref. says: >SYMBOLICRELATE(entryname) >Allows the spec

Re: Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types....

2017-10-05 Thread william janulin
What goes around comes around. On Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:50 AM, "Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)" wrote: As an "Assembler" guy.that's great news ! Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf

Re: ShopZ order response

2017-10-05 Thread Allan Staller
Might also be a flood of orders. CBPDO/SERVERPAC do require a lot of processing. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sho

Re: ShopZ order response

2017-10-05 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Good question. However, I did not hear last Friday (original delivery date) about anyone talking about z/OS 2.3. Perhaps shipment has been delayed. If it has been, that might explain why the status has remained "Manufacturing". Otherwise, you may want to try emailing this link: SWG ESW ShopCat

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017 07:04:17 -0400, John Eells wrote: > >As the person who got the Catalog/VSAM team to create SYMBOLICRELATE >some time ago, *I* certainly do not want it to go away, and I doubt very >much that it will go away. >... >That people found other uses for this function is a serendipit

ShopZ order response

2017-10-05 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
On 2017-09-28 I placed my order for a new version of zOS online. I received an eMail back from ShopZ the next day and online shows "Manufacturing" . Unfortunately the person who sent the original eMail has not returned eMail or phone calls, Attempts to call ShopZ have resulted in my leaving messag

Re: Sort Question

2017-10-05 Thread R D Boenig
Thanx Dave! From: David Betten To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/02/2017 09:45 AM Subject:Re: Sort Question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List I see a couple things the DFSORT output The reason for the small mainsize and DSA=0 is because the program is pass

Re: IEAVPSE parameter question

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Smith
Some more memory paged in (to my brain). It's the Pause that returns an updated PET, but while paused, something else needs that current PET to Release you. I suspect the updated PET isn't stored until the Release is done, but that's internal processing and so isn't guaranteed (although the usual

Re: Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types....

2017-10-05 Thread Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
As an "Assembler" guy.that's great news ! Thanks, Tom Savor -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Beverly Caldwell Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2017 11:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Here's a horrifying

Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Nightwatch RenBand
In the words of Tevye: "From your lips to God's ears". Yes, PDF's are great and portable, but they are designed for print. It is high time to come up with something better which will adapt to any screen format. Print should be secondary these days, Add on rant... The human eye can do speed readin

Here's a horrifying thought for all you management types....

2017-10-05 Thread Beverly Caldwell
>From an IBM red book, the one which describes Walmart’s adventures with CICS in a cloud. >From the section which describes the activities of the CICS and z/OS systems programmers: “The traditional role of systems programmers over time became focused on system administration functions. But, to e

Re: IEAVPSE parameter question

2017-10-05 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks! Should the doc contain a hint that performance would be improved if the token were doubleword aligned? I looked and looked for such an assertion, and finding none, took it that a character field is a character field is a character field. Why not document as two doublewords, or at least poi

Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread Charles Mills
I took that to mean "submit an RFC" and that is what I did. Let me add that I have found the Mid-Hudson doc folks to be very diligent. When I have submitted an RFC they have worked with me to make sure they got it right, not just differently wrong. This one is a pretty simple error, but in some ca

Interesting article in IEEE Annals of the History of Computing

2017-10-05 Thread David Boyes
How things used to be done. Interesting perspective on process and benefits to the organization. IBM Branch Offices: What They Were, How They Worked, 1920s–1980s James W. Cortada Abstract: IBM branch offices were the company’s local face around the world in the 20th century. Its sales and cus

Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread Steve Smith
Well then, I guess I should mention that the manual's description of the parmlist for IEA4APE2 is missing one (auth-level). That caused a bunch of "fun". IEAASM has it right, but I think I inferred it from IEAVAPE2, which seems to be correct. sas -

PROCUSERMAX in OMVS Segment

2017-10-05 Thread Mark Jacobs - Listserv
This question might be better asked in the RACF or OMVS mailing lists, but I'm starting here. Does a value set in the OMVS segment for PROCUSERMAX override the setting of MAXPROCUSER in BPXPRMxx? It's documented that way for THREADSMAX, but not for PROCUSERMAX. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer S

Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread John Eells
Peter Relson wrote: "Open a doc PMR"? Really? By all means make sure that we get the doc updated, but that does not require opening a PMR. I don't see our taking a doc APAR. I'll get the ID folks to fix... I have said this here before, but I guess it bears repeating: When you post about z/OS

Re: IEAVPSE parameter question

2017-10-05 Thread Peter Relson
It is fine with z/OS itself if you use the same field for both the input token and the updated token. Whether it works for you will depend on whether you care. Maybe your recovery looks at something that wants to know if you still have the old token vs the updated one. The functionality of IEAV

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 16:19:03 -0500, Steve Horein wrote: >will SYMBOLICRELATE functionality eventually go >away due to redundancy with the more flexible IAZSYMBL JES symbol service >being available? SYMBOLICRELATE is very different from using symbolic substitution in IDCAMS control statements. The

Re: :IEAVAPE return code doc wrong?

2017-10-05 Thread Peter Relson
"Open a doc PMR"? Really? By all means make sure that we get the doc updated, but that does not require opening a PMR. I don't see our taking a doc APAR. I'll get the ID folks to fix... FWIW, it appears that this isn't the only one that is incorrect in the same way (IEA_XFER_TO_SELF, IEA_XFER_F

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Sales PDFs - a rant

2017-10-05 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I agree - Responsive HTML would be the ideal solution since it is designed to be viewable on many platforms and formats. That would address part of the issue - the multiple columns and having articles that are non-contiguous are another part of the challenge. Authors, publishers, vendors should

Re: JCL 'SYMBOLS=' vs. IDCAMS SYMBOLICRELATE

2017-10-05 Thread John Eells
Steve Horein wrote: I am in the process of building JCL to distribute resources across several images. I've been leveraging 'SYMBOLS=' in JCL to assist in that capacity. I've now come to a point where some conditional processing takes place, and I am using IDCAMS IF-THEN logic to determine whethe