Re: z/OSMF Startup issue

[David Crayford]

On my system the jar can be found at 
/usr/lpp/wbem/jclient/sblim-cim-client2.jar or there is another 
sblim-cim-client2-v2r2.jar.


On 2019-11-22 7:00 AM, Chris Parker wrote:

Hello All,

I recently updated an LPAR to RSU1906.  Upon startup of zOSMF after making the 
required RACF changes and home directory changes, I received the following 
errors upon startup:

[ERROR   ] SRVE0283E: Exception caught while initializing context: 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax.wbem.client.WBEMClientFactory  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.navigation.listener.Bootstrap.contextInitialized(Bootstrap.java:383)
  at 
com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:2376)
  at [internal classes]

[ERROR   ] SRVE0283E: Exception caught while initializing context: 
java.lang.IllegalStateException: z/OSMF initialization failure.
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.log.listener.UICommonBootstrap.contextInitialized(UICommonBootstrap.java:212)
  at 
com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:2376)
  at [internal classes]
Caused by: com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.DataAccessControlException: IZUG628E: Class "class 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository attempted to reserve a name space with plug-in 
"TaskRepository" and user "null" , but this object is already reserved.
  at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ObjectHandle.(ObjectHandle.java:154)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ApplicationProperties.(ApplicationProperties.java:104)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.VersionedApplicationProperties.(VersionedApplicationProperties.java:81)
  at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.TaskRepository.(TaskRepository.java:278)
  at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.TaskRepository.(TaskRepository.java:290)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository.(NavTaskRepository.java:133)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository.getInstance(NavTaskRepository.java:148)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.auth.NavRegistrationManager.registerTasks(NavRegistrationManager.java:341)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.log.listener.UICommonBootstrap.contextInitialized(UICommonBootstrap.java:197)
  ... 2 more
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: An attempt was made to reference a 
file that is exclusively locked.
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ReadWriteObject.reference(ReadWriteObject.java:652)
  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.DataRegistry.getReadWriteObject(DataRegistry.java:1310)
  at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ObjectHandle.(ObjectHandle.java:147)
  ... 10 more

This looks like a simple case of a missing jar, but I have no idea which jar I 
should be looking for, and I can't see anything related to a CLASSPATH 
definition.The only warnings I see in the configuration step output 
refers to a change in permissions.  Everything else looks good.  The STDOUT for 
the server shows no errors and provides the expected list of endpoints 
available.  I also get a 500 HTTP code when I attempt to connect to the main 
page, but one problem at a time, and I'm hoping that fixing the first problem 
will take care of the second.

I'm still striking out with Google and the IBM knowledge base.  I am hoping 
someone has hit this or something similar and can provide some guidance.

Thanks,
Chris
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was rc 38

[Joe Reichman]

Wasn't the usall s0c4 rc 4 or 10 or 11 but 38 when I looked at the registers
in TEST none had the high order bit on regardless I did a LLGTR and it
solved my problem

 

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Chris Hoelscher]

Disable GDDM and see how many complain?

Thank You,
Chris Hoelscher| Lead Database Administrator | IBM Global Technical Services| T 
502.476.2538  or 502.407.7266

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z/OSMF Startup issue

[Chris Parker]

Hello All,

I recently updated an LPAR to RSU1906.  Upon startup of zOSMF after making the 
required RACF changes and home directory changes, I received the following 
errors upon startup:

[ERROR   ] SRVE0283E: Exception caught while initializing context: 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: javax.wbem.client.WBEMClientFactory  at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.navigation.listener.Bootstrap.contextInitialized(Bootstrap.java:383)
 at 
com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:2376)
 at [internal classes]

[ERROR   ] SRVE0283E: Exception caught while initializing context: 
java.lang.IllegalStateException: z/OSMF initialization failure.
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.log.listener.UICommonBootstrap.contextInitialized(UICommonBootstrap.java:212)
 at 
com.ibm.ws.webcontainer.webapp.WebApp.notifyServletContextCreated(WebApp.java:2376)
 at [internal classes]
Caused by: com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.DataAccessControlException: IZUG628E: Class 
"class com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository attempted to reserve a 
name space with plug-in "TaskRepository" and user "null" , but this object is 
already reserved.
 at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ObjectHandle.(ObjectHandle.java:154)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ApplicationProperties.(ApplicationProperties.java:104)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.VersionedApplicationProperties.(VersionedApplicationProperties.java:81)
 at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.TaskRepository.(TaskRepository.java:278)
 at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.TaskRepository.(TaskRepository.java:290)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository.(NavTaskRepository.java:133)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.data.NavTaskRepository.getInstance(NavTaskRepository.java:148)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.nav.auth.NavRegistrationManager.registerTasks(NavRegistrationManager.java:341)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.log.listener.UICommonBootstrap.contextInitialized(UICommonBootstrap.java:197)
 ... 2 more
Caused by: java.lang.IllegalStateException: An attempt was made to reference a 
file that is exclusively locked.
 at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ReadWriteObject.reference(ReadWriteObject.java:652)
 at 
com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.DataRegistry.getReadWriteObject(DataRegistry.java:1310)
 at com.ibm.zoszmf.util.data.ObjectHandle.(ObjectHandle.java:147)
 ... 10 more

This looks like a simple case of a missing jar, but I have no idea which jar I 
should be looking for, and I can't see anything related to a CLASSPATH 
definition.The only warnings I see in the configuration step output 
refers to a change in permissions.  Everything else looks good.  The STDOUT for 
the server shows no errors and provides the expected list of endpoints 
available.  I also get a 500 HTTP code when I attempt to connect to the main 
page, but one problem at a time, and I'm hoping that fixing the first problem 
will take care of the second.

I'm still striking out with Google and the IBM knowledge base.  I am hoping 
someone has hit this or something similar and can provide some guidance.

Thanks,
Chris
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

I got this sometime in the late eighties or early nineties.  No, didn't get
an upgrade.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[External Email]

Didn't you get the free upgrade?

Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit 
windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I 
don't recall which).


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Mike Schwab 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

How well does 
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 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
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>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on 
> behalf of Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Seymour J Metz]

Didn't you get the free upgrade?

Have you had problems running the 32 bit windoze version of TSPF on a 32 bit 
windoze? I recall having successfully done so once on either 7 or vista (I 
don't recall which).


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
PINION, RICHARD W. 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:57 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Seymour J Metz
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[External Email]

It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
Mike Schwab 
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

How well does 
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 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> behalf of Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
> --
> Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Seymour J Metz]

For as long as I can remember I've pronounced GDDM that way, nor was I the only 
one.

For that matter, how do you pronounce IGDZILLA?


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I read this as something about "goddamn users", which sorta made sense...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:36 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any
> other commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist
> or lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not
> using it when you look at the ENQs.
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Jerome Benting 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:23 PM
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> Subject: Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.
>
> How can I do best go about doing it?
>
> -Original Message-
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> Of Seymour J Metz
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 10:02 PM
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>
> No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good
> enough for your purposes?
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
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> Subject: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS
>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[zMan]

I read this as something about "goddamn users", which sorta made sense...

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 3:36 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:

> As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any
> other commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist
> or lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not
> using it when you look at the ENQs.
>
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>
> That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.
>
> How can I do best go about doing it?
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good
> enough for your purposes?
>
>
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>
> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
>
> Jerome
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[PINION, RICHARD W.]

I still have the original Tritus ISPF with the 5.25 and 3.5 diskettes.
I have to run it under DOS Box.

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It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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How well does 
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F
 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
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>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Seymour J Metz]

It's totally useless to me if it only runs on windoze. Like the latest clone 
from CTC, it does not support macros written in REXX, mening that I can't run 
macros developed on z/OS. It's missing huge pieces of ISPF that TSPF supports.

If you know of a product that supports as much of ISPF as TSPF does and runs as 
either an OS/2 PM application or as a Linux KDE application, including 
clipboard support, I'll take a look at it. In the meantime, "cold dead fingers".

for that matter, if you know of an OS/2 or Linux application that does what 
DCF, BM/build and BookMaster do, I will be very interested.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:17 PM
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How well does 
http://secure-web.cisco.com/1Yj7f9keIh_ZHN-4COJ4EKV7tBbfIAjMpTNBVys_oKhPxLVL0raBDlc7_cRph9f_2IGjAw6E4FPQtK0bkOEq80eEwHYpA1DeGQZTqjixs9XMO2aHcd2Ebw7B3Uk14PDKjRf_SfRvOCBAtDSfnyJah2qCBygV5j5-r3dFR8p2vx3ov_zFM_7EWfdK7_M_e_8FvEfGgihEXptOBil4eOv35X6dFbOppysJ5wD5Zo2m4DCFJ29yhyBKP1PegJY_8aBQBzzbkNJVMQlyKJRBU5AGTx4vBFYbOSGzyP1y7WIBqEmFN9PJAJe4nyHHa789vm8v36ChQrC58z6Oqy_dj3JlCVoKtRHbGhs10BjtX0sLRLVDY2T7Ycuhmkaepf2ySk4Pz/http%3A%2F%2Fspflite.com%2F
 work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
> --
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
> http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3
>
>
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
> Jeremy Nicoll 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
>
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Re: WLM Exit Samples

[Salva Carrasco]

Have you try DGAXWLMX?

What do you want to do with the exit?

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Seymour J Metz]

As ITschak Mugzach wrote, "Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any other 
commonly (but centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist or 
lpalist." Just remember that there may be users of GDDM who are not using it 
when you look at the ENQs.


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:23 PM
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That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.

How can I do best go about doing it?

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No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
for your purposes?


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Subject: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

Jerome

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Re: A real light bulb moment [for 3420 tape drives] | Computerworld Shark Tank

[Charles Mills]

I would personally tend to question the posting here of links to weekly 
stories. If I (for one) wanted to subscribe to Computerworld I would.

Charles


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So, no reflection on Mark for posting, but: pretty boring story. Hardware
problem was hard to diagnose. This is special?

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Jerome Benting]

That will be helpful, I need an indicative amount.

How can I do best go about doing it?

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No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
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Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

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Re: AUTHPGM in IKJTSOxx

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Authorized in the sense that an AC(1) application can load it without an ABEND, 
not in the RSAPF sense (unless it is bound/linked with AC(1), of course.)


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On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 20:03:59 +, Seymour J Metz  wrote:

>What do you mean by "the initial program"? The TMP doesn't need to be in any 
>list.
>
>There are a few caveats on authorization.
>
>   Whether the entire linklist is autoorized depends on what you have in 
> PARMLIB.
>
>   Anything in the LPA is authorized.

No, but that's a common misconception (or, perhaps, a common mis-statement).

The correct statement is: anything in LPA is considered to reside in an 
authorized library.

What that means is:
1. It can be loaded by something that is running either unauthorized or 
authorized (APF, system key, or supervisor state). When loaded, the state of 
the running program's authorization is not changed. (I will ignore the further 
complications that can be imposed by RACF Program Control, as those are not 
really related to authorized vs unauthorized.)

2. If it is loaded by the Initiator as a jobstep program, and it is linked 
AC(1), it will run APF-authorized. (I will ignore possible JOBLIB/STEPLIB 
effects.)

3. If it is run under TSO and is in the appropriate IKJTSOxx list (AUTHPGM, 
AUTHCMD, AUTHTSF) for the way it was run, it will run APF-authorized. (Again, 
ignoring possible JOBLIB/STEPLIB effects.)

But it is only truly "authorized" if it is loaded by an already-authorized 
program in case 1, or when cases 2 or 3 apply.

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Mike Schwab]

How well does http://spflite.com/ work for you?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:00 PM Seymour J Metz  wrote:
>
> Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs 
> that do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, 
> but the syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I 
> would happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
> understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.
>
> If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be 
> fully compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for 
> the utility functions.
>
>
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> > FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF
>
> Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?
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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Seymour J Metz]

No, but you can identify how many are currently using GDDM. Is that good enough 
for your purposes?


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Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

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[Seymour J Metz]

Tritus SPF; it is, alas, abandon-ware, but it is able to run ISPF dialogs that 
do not depend on TSO commands or TSO function packages. It has regexen, but the 
syntax is not the same as either ISPF or the major PC languages. I would 
happily pay for an upgrade if the developers would revive it, but as I 
understand it there are legal issues that make it unlikely.

If  Mark Hessling ever upgrades the support of prefix macros in THE to be fully 
compatible with XEDIT, I may switch, but I would still retain TSPF for the 
utility functions.


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On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF

Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?

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Re: SMS primary allocation

[Seymour J Metz]

The answer to most questions abou SMS managed storage is "it depends". What's 
in the ACS? JCL?


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Hello all,

I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and does
NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together "
600 CYL's as a primary allocation?



Thank you ,



Carlos Martinez

SUNY Downstate Medical Center






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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Roger Lowe]

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:55:31 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>What is that feature code?
>
>>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>>up and operational.
>>
>Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is 
>chargeable).
>
F/C 0104 is the Container Hosting Foundation - 
https://www.ibm.com/support/z-content-solutions/container-extensions/

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Jousma, David]

What is that feature code?

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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>up and operational.
>
Not only will you need zOS 2.4 but also a z14 and hardware F/C 0104 (which is 
chargeable).

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 17:58:28 +, Jousma, David  wrote:

>That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 
>up and operational.
>
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Jousma, David]

That might be a great option LionelI'll have to try that once I get V2.4 up 
and operational.

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-Original Message-
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If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container.


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are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=ee387839-b2648c36-ee3852a1-0cc47a33
> 347c-23124c3b87ab82de=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops
> -tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
>  3347c-ed74e8897f67c247=https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image00
> 

Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Lionel B Dyck]

If it needs linux and if you want to keep it under z/OS why not a container.


Lionel B. Dyck <
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are, reputation merely what others think you are." - John Wooden

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Edgington, Jerry
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
>  l=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
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> >  > ai
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> >
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Jousma, David]

We have DBB server running on RHEL x86 server.

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As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://protect2.fireeye.com/url?k=b9e07acb-e5bc8ec4-b9e05053-0cc47a33
> 347c-e156f91e638ea3ee=https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops
> -tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
> > requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, 
> > and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
> > territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) 
> > communicates with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline 
> > control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the 
> > intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which could be 
> > an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change management 
> > process", etc.
> >
> > I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, 
> > and would interested in sharing some information off-list?
> >
> > Thanks, Dave
> >
> >
> > 
> > __
> > ___
> > Dave Jousma
> > AVP | Manager, Systems Engineering
> > [cid:image003.png@01D4F91
>  3347c-2a446e17f7f37f6e=https://www.google.com/maps/search/id:image00
> 3.png@01D4F91?entry=gmail=g>
> 5.C9E34050]
> >
> > Fifth Third Bank  |  1830 East Paris Ave, SE 
> >  > a33347c-e77a5e0a80a71739=https://www.google.com/maps/search/1830+E
> > ast+Paris+Ave,+SE?entry=gmai
> > l=g>
> > |  MD RSCB2H  |  Grand Rapids, MI 49546
> > 616.653.8429  |  fax: 616.653.2717
> >
> >
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Edgington, Jerry]

You are probably correct.  I haven't installed DBB server component in years, 
but now that you said that, I do remember some issues with trying to run DBB 
server under USS or even Linux on Z.  There are some Java component missing.

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf Of 
Michael Babcock
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit which 
runs under USS, the other is a DBB server that includes samples that can be 
built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and 
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't 
> have to. The DBB Jar files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar 
> files, need to be load and available in USS, along with IP 
> connectivity to the DBB server.
>
> I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help 
> anyone or not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more 
> information about DBB, Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact 
> me offline.
> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
>
> Thanks,
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
> that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
> > Dave,
> >
> > I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> > be happy to talk with you.
> >
> > Jerry Edgington
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On 
> > Behalf Of Jousma, David
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 4:06 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
> >
> > All,
> >
> > We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> > development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security 
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As I understand it, there are two components to DBB, one is the Toolkit
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can be built and run during testing.  The server component, I was told,
doesn’t run under USS.   Am I being misinformed?

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:09 AM Edgington, Jerry <
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> There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and
> Java/Groovy Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have
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> to be load and available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB
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> https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos
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> only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.
>
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> jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:
>
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> > ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> > sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements
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Re: SMS primary allocation

[R.S.]

W dniu 2019-11-21 o 17:15, CarlosM Martinez pisze:

Hello all,

I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and does
NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together "
600 CYL's as a primary allocation?


It depends!
1. CONTIG parameter in JCL enforces single extent. Usually it is not used.
2. "Regular" allocation will take single extent if possible, or up to 5 
extents if there is no such extent available (free space fragmentation)
3. SMS Data Class have optional parameters which increase the above 5 
extents to maximum possible value (16 or 123 depending on dataset type).
4. SMS Data Class can also have optional parameter which allows to 
decrease 600 cyl value down to predefined "discount", 90% for example 
(0.9 * 600). It is used when there is no enough space on the volume, 
despite on number of fragments/extents.



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Re: SMS primary allocation

[Graham Harris]

Your Space constraint relief definitions in your data classes will affect
things substantially, depending on what your SMS routines are assigning,
and what settings your dataclass has.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.3.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r3.idad400/scra.htm



On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 16:32, Leonardo Vaz  wrote:

> It will, unless you specify CONTIG on the SPACE parameter:
>
> CONTIG
>
> requests that contiguous space (tracks or cylinders) be
> allocated for the primary space quantity - if CONTIG is
> specified and contiguous space is not available, the job is
> terminated with a "Space requested not available" message
>
> Regards,
> Leo
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> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:15 AM
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> Subject: SMS primary allocation
>
> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and
> does
> NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together
> "
> 600 CYL's as a primary allocation?
>
>
>
> Thank you ,
>
>
>
> Carlos Martinez
>
> SUNY Downstate Medical Center
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

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There are a couple of components to DBB. The DBB server, APIs and Java/Groovy 
Classes.  The DBB server can run under USS, but doesn't have to. The DBB Jar 
files, along with the Groovy, Git and other Jar files, need to be load and 
available in USS, along with IP connectivity to the DBB server.

I wrote an article about z/OS and DevOps, not sure if it would help anyone or 
not, but here is the link.  I also have a lot more information about DBB, 
Jenkins and Git on z/OS, if anyone wishes to contact me offline. 
https://ibmsystemsmag.com/IBM-Z/01/2019/devops-tools-zos

Thanks,
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We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:03 AM Edgington, Jerry < 
jerry.edging...@westernsouthernlife.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would 
> be happy to talk with you.
>
> Jerry Edgington
>
>
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> Behalf Of Jousma, David
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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>
> All,
>
> We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application 
> development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements 
> for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it 
> really needs access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my 
> impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the 
> Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
> GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that 
> work on behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or 
> could be the userid of the "change management process", etc.
>
> I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and 
> would interested in sharing some information off-list?
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> Thanks, Dave
>
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[Michael Babcock]

We are doing the same thing as Dave as well.  I was under the impression
that DBB server/samples ran under USS but that’s not the case.   Linux
only.  DBB Tollkit runs under USS though.

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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS
>
> All,
>
> We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application
> development to using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB,
> ->Jenkins -> Urban Code Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the
> sandbox, and am having a hard time finding z/OS security requirements for
> running the Jenkins slave as mainframe Unix user, and what it really needs
> access to.  I'm still learning this territory, but my impression is the
> Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates with the Jenkins slave on the
> MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues GIT, IBM DBB build commands,
> and that the intention that it does that work on behalf of others, which
> could be an individual developer, or could be the userid of the "change
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>
> I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and
> would interested in sharing some information off-list?
>
> Thanks, Dave
>
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Re: SMS primary allocation

[Leonardo Vaz]

It will, unless you specify CONTIG on the SPACE parameter:

CONTIG 

requests that contiguous space (tracks or cylinders) be 
allocated for the primary space quantity - if CONTIG is 
specified and contiguous space is not available, the job is 
terminated with a "Space requested not available" message   

Regards,
Leo

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Subject: SMS primary allocation

Hello all,

I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and does
NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together "
600 CYL's as a primary allocation?

 

Thank you ,

 

Carlos Martinez

SUNY Downstate Medical Center 

 

 


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Re: SMS primary allocation

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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:15:03 -0500, CarlosM Martinez wrote:

>I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and does
>NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together "
>600 CYL's as a primary allocation?

The primary allocation can be satisfied by up to five extents.

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SMS primary allocation

[CarlosM Martinez]

Hello all,

I was wondering if SMS needs like 600 CYL's as a Primary allocation and does
NOT have it will it used fragmented space on a given pack to "put together "
600 CYL's as a primary allocation?

 

Thank you ,

 

Carlos Martinez

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Re: Share Website

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Edgington, Jerry]

Dave,

I have been working on this very item for about 4 years. And I would be happy 
to talk with you.

Jerry Edgington


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Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Edgington, Jerry]

Chris,

There is also an open source called zJenkins on Github, which uses IBM's DBB 
along with the Jenkins' z/OS slave and Git, to build applications on z/OS.  I 
am working on getting zJenkins under the Open Mainframe Project with the new 
name of Polycephaly. 

Jerry 

-Original Message-
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Chris Parker
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 6:18 PM
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Hi Dave,

I wasn't aware that a Jenkins slave was able to run natively under USS.  At the 
last place I worked, Jenkins was being used off mainframe to interface with 
z/OSMF and Zowe to execute and manage the tests.

Chris

-Original Message-
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Jousma, David
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2019 3:06 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe DEVOPS

All,

We are evaluating moving from standard green screen application development to 
using the new tooling including iDZ-> GIT -> IBM DBB, ->Jenkins -> Urban Code 
Deploy, etc.   Working on a mini POC in the sandbox, and am having a hard time 
finding z/OS security requirements for running the Jenkins slave as mainframe 
Unix user, and what it really needs access to.  I'm still learning this 
territory, but my impression is the Jenkins server (off platflorm) communicates 
with the Jenkins slave on the MF and is a pipeline control tool, and issues 
GIT, IBM DBB build commands, and that the intention that it does that work on 
behalf of others, which could be an individual developer, or could be the 
userid of the "change management process", etc.

I'm hoping that there are some shops out there already doing this, and would 
interested in sharing some information off-list?

Thanks, Dave

_
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Re: Mainframe DEVOPS

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019, at 22:21, Seymour J Metz wrote:

> FWIW the PC editor I use most is TSPF

Transport Scotland Pavement Forum ?

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Re: IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[ITschak Mugzach]

Try get who enqueues ADMSYMBL dataset, or any other commonly (but
centrally) used dataset which is outside the linklist or lpalist.

ITschak

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 12:07 PM Jerome Benting  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270
> GDDM users / sessions are logged in at any time?
>
> I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM
> users there are in a rather large 3270 user community.
>
> Rgds.
>
> Jerome
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IDENTIFYING 3270 GDDM USERS

[Jerome Benting]

Hi All,

Does anybody have a quick and easy way to identify how many possible 3270 GDDM 
users / sessions are logged in at any time?

I need to try and identify as close to correct as possible how many GDDM users 
there are in a rather large 3270 user community.

Rgds.

Jerome

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