Reasonable? People who weren’t aware of 5-9’s, who thought pharmacies weren’t
open 24 hours a day. Silly you.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 11:07 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
And here I thought you could have a reasonable conversation about an
important topic.
And here I thought you could have a reasonable conversation about an
important topic. Silly me.
On 10/21/2021 7:59 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
I don’t really care Tom. Any more than I cared in 1995 when people like you
told me the mainframe was going to be gone in 5 years and I better look for
I don’t really care Tom. Any more than I cared in 1995 when people like you
told me the mainframe was going to be gone in 5 years and I better look for my
next profession. I’m not looking for agreement like most of you.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:50 PM,
You guys are the 2021 version of the guy who said the mainframe would be dead
by 2000.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:50 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
Then you're lucky because my view is more like what David said.
On 10/21/2021 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>
Lol, you think IBM post false numbers? You’re an idiot.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:35 PM, David Crayford
wrote:
On 22/10/2021 9:47 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
> I highly doubt your claim regarding banks.
>
Then you're lucky because my view is more like what David said.
On 10/21/2021 6:49 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
Plus, I’ve worked in 15 shops in my career, including banking, insurance,
retail, and health care. In all of them, the mainframe is the most important
and most used platform. And it’s
On 22/10/2021 9:47 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
I highly doubt your claim regarding banks.
https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statistics
Oh, a mainframe blog that quotes IBM numbers! Thanks Bill.
Don't take my word for it. There's a video and presentation that
describes the
I remember when “experts” were touting SAP, Powerbuilder, and others while
other/same “experts” were saying the mainframe was going to be obsolete by
2000. 2 decades later, it’s still going strong with no end in sight. Those
software du jour aren’t likely to replace it.
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Plus, I’ve worked in 15 shops in my career, including banking, insurance,
retail, and health care. In all of them, the mainframe is the most important
and most used platform. And it’s not even close.
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On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 9:13 PM, David Crayford
I highly doubt your claim regarding banks.
https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statistics
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How important is the
On 21/10/2021 7:31 am, Bill Johnson wrote:
I do almost everything important via app with a mainframe on the back end. Banking,
health records, retail shopping, insurance claims, investing. And with very high
confidence the transactions are secure, fast, & always available. Not sure how
more
I think "Mainframe Modernization" is an umbrella term that can be used
to describe many different things. That may be new UIs or application
modernization such as adding a REST API to a legacy application. IBM are
doing a great job adding modern languages to z/OS that have features
You're using the wrong signal. SIGABND catches abends such as x37. If
you want to catch machine checks use SIGSEGV (0C4), SIGILL (0C1) etc.
On 19/10/2021 11:03 pm, Jantje. wrote:
Esteemed listers,
I have the situation that in the vast majority of cases the C program just
works fine, but in
I recall the 3540 well because the team that did the data keying would use
them. IIRC there was an issue in terms of getting the disks ejected and I
ended up writing a channel program to eject the disk as part of the batch job.
I also remember the 3895 because we installed it when I worked for
I just ran across this thread, and thought I'd correct/confirm a couple of
things. I spent the first part of my IBM career on the development team that
designed the 3890 and 3895, so I am familiar with those machines.
First, the 3895 was NOT a printer. It was a specialized kind of check
We transitioned from Ibm Session Manager to CL/SUPERSESSION.
Wasn’t straightforward there are many parameters to touch i.e. user access,
user modifications to be allowed and many others.
Ask the group here we might help a bit.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 9:08 AM Mark Regan wrote:
> Is there a
Mark,
Most of the CL/Supersession documentation appears to be available online.
Search "IBM CL/Supersession V3". I found multiple PDF's - Basic Config
Guide, Customization Guide, Problem Determination Guide, etc.
Ramsey
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 12:25 PM Gilson Cesar de Oliveira
wrote:
> Mark:
Mark:
Here in Brazil we have configured CLSS 3.1 to replace Netview Access.
It is working as expected but there are some difference if you compare
with Netview Access.
I have to get most of the configuration steps in manuals.
If you need information on how to do
Ed,
I stand corrected. Thanks for the link to https://ibmdocs.pocnet.net/,
which I was previously unaware of.
About a week ago, I was looking for BatchPipes manuals and had only
found the main reference manual. Now
I have added the other manuals to my collection.
Allan
On Thu,
I would've said Shmegoogle (a takeoff on Shmegheggi)
On 2021-10-21 12:34, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 10/21/2021 9:16 AM, allan winston wrote:
When I Google "TSO PIPE", I found that it is a command within Netview.
BatchPipes is a completely different program product.
Google Schmoogle...
The message
On 10/21/2021 9:16 AM, allan winston wrote:
When I Google "TSO PIPE", I found that it is a command within Netview.
BatchPipes is a completely different program product.
Google Schmoogle...
The message id shown in my example (BPW00256I) is documented in Appendix
C of IBM BatchPipes OS/390
When I Google "TSO PIPE", I found that it is a command within Netview.
BatchPipes is a completely different program product.
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 11:59 AM Ed Jaffe
wrote:
> On 10/21/2021 8:18 AM, Nash, Jonathan S. wrote:
> > ... I just tried TSO PIPE and it worked
>
> READY
> pipe
>
On 10/21/2021 8:18 AM, Nash, Jonathan S. wrote:
... I just tried TSO PIPE and it worked
READY
pipe
BPW00256I Enter a pipeline specification
READY
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831 Parkview Drive North
El Segundo, CA 90245
https://www.phoenixsoftware.com/
Google > replacing mainframe with cloud >> ck the companies statements on
LEGECY , BUT PRECISELY pretty much hits the nail on the head when it comes to
looking at what you have vs going to another platform.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Nash,
I for one believe in the Right tool for the Right Job! For general purpose
programming, Cobol does the job. Java, it has to be translated each time it
run, provided you know the language and it's been debugged. Schools may teach
it but they too want to make money and look good because
Some goverment agencies are replacing
their mainframe COBOL with java.
I dont see a payoff. I think this is
driven by contracting companies who
will make money off the conversion and
managers who do not know anything about
programming languages but read somewhere
that COBOL is out of date.
Many
What kind of "lies- smoke and mirrors" do you see that IBM should be
pushing back on with our marketing?
I'm just a highly technical crypto guy, so I don't write the marketing
copy, but you have piqued my interest.
Eric Rossman, CISSP®
ICSF Cryptographic Security Development
z/OS Enabling
No idea on the number of users, but they upgraded it to 3.1 to fix some issues.
That is what we have installed.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Mark Regan
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 10:15 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is there a
Unfortunate but true -- causing more irritation than solving real problems ,
BAD programming (making any platform look bad)
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Tony Thigpen
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:22 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject:
Ron,
My opinion is that IBM is just as bad now that they are 'cloud
eccentric'. (Yes, play on words, not a misspelling.)
Tony Thigpen
Ron Wells wrote on 10/21/21 9:05 AM:
IBM needs to push back in Marketing , be more forceful stop the lies- smoke and
mirrors
-Original Message-
Bob,
Thanks for the reply. I had looked for one but came up empty. It makes you
wonder how many customers of CLSS there are. If I was so inclined, I could
start one on groups.io, where NetView and System Automation are. I created
one there for Lionel Dyck's XMITIP program, and it has been getting
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
Always good to be learning.
But yeah, it's scenarios like that (release-based builds) where automation and
GitHub-ing things help.
When an actively maintained clone of PARMLIB, etc. are kept in GitHub, code
reviews are a dream.
Ex: What changed since the last IPL,
Mark,
I am unaware of any user group. Regardless, ask away. If we can answer, we
will.
Bob (CLSS user)
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Mark Regan
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 9:08 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Is there a
On 10/21/2021 6:37 AM, kekronbekron wrote:
It's this kind of scenario that this woke-nizing the mainframe is supposed to
actually help with.
That is, release-based automated builds, and to automatically, easily maintain
different binaries/versions.
Your customers with newer software don't
All that seems to matter today is This Quarter to most managers. OTOH,
there are the ones who are sold on platform "X" (usually Windows) for all
I.T. functions because a single platform is more efficient to manage. My
employer is convinced that one single software product, Facets, can be the
I should not have picked on Java, but you may understand my irritation.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed
Jaffe
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:13 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Modernization
** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE
It's this kind of scenario that this woke-nizing the mainframe is supposed to
actually help with.
That is, release-based automated builds, and to automatically, easily maintain
different binaries/versions.
Your customers with newer software don't need to be 'punished with' binaries
made
On 10/21/2021 5:39 AM, Ron Wells wrote:
Like reinventing a wheel and all they do is add complexity , as example
Java..another moving target, write something for it, change rel. BANG does not
work. Like Windows, if IBM did this, they would have been out of the Boz
decades ago.
We love Java
Is there a CL/SuperSession (CLSS) user group? If not, are there any users
here on IBM-MAIN who can help a new customer with questions about
transitioning to it from another vendor's product?
Regards,
Mark Regan, K8MTR
*CTO1 USNR-Retired, 1969-1991*
*Nationwide Insurance, Retired, 1986-2017*
IBM needs to push back in Marketing , be more forceful stop the lies- smoke and
mirrors
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ron
Wells
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:03 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Modernization
** EXTERNAL
Agree-
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
Bill Johnson
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 8:02 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Mainframe Modernization
** EXTERNAL EMAIL - USE CAUTION **
Understanding TCO is extremely important, yet
Understanding TCO is extremely important, yet frequently overlooked. Management
sometimes doesn’t care or isn’t smart enough to determine it. My last boss only
cared about initial cost, which he could take to his boss and say “see, I saved
you $10,000” even though in 5 years he likely cost the
G'day Bill,
Is there a typo in your program?
I changed
VL 1,VEC2
to
VL 1,VEC1
and got the expected results.
Peter
-
You are quite correct. My old fingers no longer hit the right keys!
Bill Ogden
Marketing BS for the UNEDUCATED MGNT that only look at the $$ and does not know
or understand TRUE TCO.
%
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of
David Elliot
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 5:50 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Mainframe
Like reinventing a wheel and all they do is add complexity , as example
Java..another moving target, write something for it, change rel. BANG does not
work. Like Windows, if IBM did this, they would have been out of the Boz
decades ago.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
I am involved in a project to bring some z/OS products to Zowe. IMHO it sounds
like "put lipstick on pig" (a term from my country). I hate this idea.
Many tiers to access a simple TSO resource or program... Angular... Java...
JSON... Python... Webserver... and my mainframe application is a good
That’s a very good point, Tony.
Rich Smrcina
> On Oct 20, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
> It's a magic salesman word.
>
> A few years ago, it meant moving the mainframe workload to PC using a PC
> based Cobol. Later it meant moving to the cloud.
>
> Anytime you hear the word, it
That's exactly what I wanted to express.
To complement/expand: this is salesman word, we know that. However some
salesmen want to sell their products, not kill mainframe. Do you need
theses product? Probably no. So, what is the reason to buy it? Mainframe
modernization.
From the other hand -
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