Re: z/osmf missing directory

2024-03-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
Never mind - again.  The SMP/E job to put the new workflow choked on installing 
the PTF but apparently got far enough to create the directory.  

This install is going to cause me to want to retire!

Rex

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Hi again,

Got past my last problem and now while trying to apply UJ93002 to get the 3.1 
workflow loaded into the filesystem, the apply failed because 
/usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade doesn't exist.  While I can manually go into the FS and 
create the directory, I'm concerned that I missed some step that should have 
created it and others.  The only hits I've found in doing searches online are 
telling me that installing a particular PTF will put the new workflow in this 
location.  

So my questions are 1) is it safe for me to just create this directory, and if 
not, where is the step(s) that I missed that would create it for me?

TIA (again)

Rex

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z/osmf missing directory

2024-03-28 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi again,

Got past my last problem and now while trying to apply UJ93002 to get the 3.1 
workflow loaded into the filesystem, the apply failed because 
/usr/lpp/bcp/upgrade doesn't exist.  While I can manually go into the FS and 
create the directory, I'm concerned that I missed some step that should have 
created it and others.  The only hits I've found in doing searches online are 
telling me that installing a particular PTF will put the new workflow in this 
location.  

So my questions are 1) is it safe for me to just create this directory, and if 
not, where is the step(s) that I missed that would create it for me?

TIA (again)

Rex

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:26:46 +, Jousma, David wrote:

>Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!...
>
>Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion.
> 
And no one knows why.

FTP appears designed to ignore conventions and frustrate programmers.\
Once I coded:
//SYSUT1  DD  RECFM=U,...
...
PUT DD:SYSUT1 ...

expecting FTP to behave like IEBGENER or any well-behaved utility,
treat each block as an unformatted record, and transfer RDWs and BDWs
as data.  Instead, it appeared to ignore my allocation attributes and use
those in the DSCB instead.

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
It is.

Dave Jousma
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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Just a thought, but is Connect Direct available? Michael At 12: 26 PM 
3/28/2024, Jousma, David wrote: >Ding ding ding…. . Gil gets the prize! 
Off-list >send me your favorite adult beverage and where >to send it, and I’ll 
have it delivered


Just a thought, but is Connect Direct available?



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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Michael Oujesky

Just a thought, but is Connect Direct available?

Michael

At 12:26 PM 3/28/2024, Jousma, David wrote:

Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!   Off-list 
send me your favorite adult beverage and where 
to send it, and I’ll have it delivered to your door!


Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion.


EZA2509I 16169 megabytes transferred - 10 second 
interval rate 150928.44 KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 130424.81 KB/sec
EZA2509I 17603 megabytes transferred - 10 second 
interval rate 150308.75 KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 131845.13 KB/sec
EZA2509I 19080 megabytes transferred - 10 second 
interval rate 154934.56 KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 133384.38 KB/sec
EZA2509I 20516 megabytes transferred - 10 second 
interval rate 150550.75 KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 134457.31 KB/sec
EZA2509I 21989 megabytes transferred - 10 second 
interval rate 154457.94 KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 135633.81 KB/sec

250 Transfer completed successfully.

DSS running at the remote end

  REST INDD(TAPE)  ODY(RST02A) ADMIN
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'REST '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2024.088 13:22:47 
INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED

ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2024.088 13:22:47 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR780I (001)-TDFP (01), THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET 
BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY Z/OS DFSMSDSS VERSION



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Will give that a shot Gil. Running now, at the 
fast speed. We’ll if if ADRDSSU at the remote 
end can read the file Dave Jousma Vice President 
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Will give that a shot Gil.  Running now, at the 
fast speed.   We’ll if if ADRDSSU at the remote end can read the file




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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Ding ding ding…..Gil gets the prize!   Off-list send me your favorite adult 
beverage and where to send it, and I’ll have it delivered to your door!

Coding EBCDIC, and STRU R was the magic potion.


EZA2509I 16169 megabytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 150928.44 KB/sec 
- Overall transfer rate 130424.81 KB/sec
EZA2509I 17603 megabytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 150308.75 KB/sec 
- Overall transfer rate 131845.13 KB/sec
EZA2509I 19080 megabytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 154934.56 KB/sec 
- Overall transfer rate 133384.38 KB/sec
EZA2509I 20516 megabytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 150550.75 KB/sec 
- Overall transfer rate 134457.31 KB/sec
EZA2509I 21989 megabytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 154457.94 KB/sec 
- Overall transfer rate 135633.81 KB/sec
250 Transfer completed successfully.

DSS running at the remote end

  REST INDD(TAPE)  ODY(RST02A) ADMIN
ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'REST '
ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2024.088 13:22:47 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL 
STATEMENTS COMPLETED
ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK
ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2024.088 13:22:47 EXECUTION BEGINS
ADR780I (001)-TDFP (01), THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL 
VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS CREATED BY Z/OS DFSMSDSS VERSION


Dave Jousma
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Will give that a shot Gil. Running now, at the fast speed. We’ll if if ADRDSSU 
at the remote end can read the file Dave Jousma Vice President | Director, 
Technology Engineering From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 


Will give that a shot Gil.  Running now, at the fast speed.   We’ll if if 
ADRDSSU at the remote end can read the file



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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Will give that a shot Gil.  Running now, at the fast speed.   We’ll if if 
ADRDSSU at the remote end can read the file

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On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14: 41: 32 +, rpinion865 wrote: >As you have 
determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker. Using XMIT or 
TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B. But we all know there is CPU 
consumption from using


On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:41:32 +, rpinion865 wrote:



>As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker.  
>Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B.  But we all know 
>there is CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends.

>

Might STRU R be preferable to MODE B?



(But O discovered that STRU R garbles RECFM=VBS.)



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Re: IBM VTS and cloud

2024-03-28 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Another option is IBM Cloud Tape Connector.  One of its capabilities is Virtual 
Tape Replication, which replicates tape data sets to cloud object storage.  If 
interested in finding out more, please email me at wilc...@us.ibm.com  and I 
can connect you with the SME.  Thanks.

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:41:32 +, rpinion865 wrote:

>As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker.  
>Using XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B.  But we all know 
>there is CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends. 
>
Might STRU R be preferable to MODE B?

(But O discovered that STRU R garbles RECFM=VBS.)

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Re: IBM VTS and cloud

2024-03-28 Thread Glenn Wilcock
I sent your question to Joe Swingler, TS7700 architect and replied as follows: 
"As of today, a single TS7700 can be either cloud attached or tape attached, 
but not both.  So, a third TS7700C would be needed or one of the two tape 
attach boxes would have to become only cloud attached."

Glenn Wilcock

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Colin Paice
The doc says..
Mode B
Sets the block mode. In block mode, data is transmitted as a series of data
blocks, preceded by one or
more header bytes. Block mode preserves the logical record boundaries of
the data set or file. When
MOde is set to B, the data transfer type must be EBCDIC.

Mode S
Sets the stream mode. In stream mode, data is transmitted as a stream of
bytes. Any data transfer
type can be used with stream mode.
*Stream mode is efficient because data block information is nottransferred.*

**
Why worry about EBCDIC?   as it is z/OS to z/OS you want binary mode.


*___*
With Mode S it may send data in chunks for the send and receive size (so up
to MB chunks).  With Mode B it may send a count of records before wait, -
which may be in 100's of bytes.

If you issue TSO NETSTAT ALL ( PORT 22

it will display data for all FTP connections.
For the one of interest, look at
SendBufferSize:/ ReceiveBufferSize:
 CongestionWindow:
MaximumSegmentSize:  DSField:
Round-trip information:
  Smooth trip time:SmoothTripVariance:
ReXmt: ReXmtCount:
DupACKs:RcvWnd:

With Dynamic Right Sizing you should have Send buffers > 64KB - perhaps 1MB
( and receive buffer at the remote end)

Bytes Out/Segments out give you a rough measure of the amount of data sent
per packet.

If you send me the data from each end, I can have a look at if for you

Colin








On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 14:32, Jousma, David <
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> Max,
>
> As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC is slow.  Same file
> just binary mode, it is fast.   Of course, cant transmit a DSS dump as just
> binary.
>
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> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Dave, it becomes more interesting. Could it depend on the file data itself
> ? Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ? Same
> kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC. Regards. Max. Il giorno gio 28 mar
> 2024 alle ore
>
>
> Dave,
>
>
>
> it becomes more interesting.
>
> Could it depend on the file data itself ?
>
>
>
> Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ?
>
> Same kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC.
>
>
>
> Regards.
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
As you have determined, it seems that MODE B (Block Mode) is the kicker.  Using 
XMIT or TERSE would eliminate the need for MODE B.  But we all know there is 
CPU consumption from using those two utilities on both ends. 




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> And all lpars are at the same levels of software.
> 
> Dave Jousma
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> From: Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com
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> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:30 AM
> To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
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> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Max,
> 
> As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC is slow. Same file just 
> binary mode, it is fast. Of course, cant transmit a DSS dump as just binary.
> 
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Dave, it becomes more interesting. Could it depend on the file data itself ? 
> Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ? Same 
> kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC. Regards. Max. Il giorno gio 28 mar 
> 2024 alle ore
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> 
> 
> it becomes more interesting.
> 
> Could it depend on the file data itself ?
> 
> 
> 
> Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ?
> 
> Same kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC.
> 
> 
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Max.
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
And all lpars are at the same levels of software.

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From: Jousma, David 
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:30 AM
To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Max,

As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC is slow.  Same file just 
binary mode, it is fast.   Of course, cant transmit a DSS dump as just binary.

Dave Jousma
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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Dave, it becomes more interesting. Could it depend on the file data itself ? 
Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ? Same kind 
of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC. Regards. Max. Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 
alle ore


Dave,



it becomes more interesting.

Could it depend on the file data itself ?



Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ?

Same kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC.



Regards.

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Max,

As mentioned, the 50Gb file with MODE B and EBCDIC is slow.  Same file just 
binary mode, it is fast.   Of course, cant transmit a DSS dump as just binary.

Dave Jousma
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 10:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Dave, it becomes more interesting. Could it depend on the file data itself ? 
Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ? Same kind 
of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC. Regards. Max. Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 
alle ore


Dave,



it becomes more interesting.

Could it depend on the file data itself ?



Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ?

Same kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC.



Regards.

Max.







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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
There is no compression involved.As mentioned,  the transfer is only slow 
when using MODE B, EBCDIC on the FTP.   If I remove those, and just do a binary 
file transfer, it flies.

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
David,

far from me the idea XMIT would have solved.
It's a try to understand if problem is related to the FTP server or client.
:D

Regards.
Max

Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 15:11 David Spiegel <
0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> ha scritto:

> Hi Max,
> XMIT??? ... They would probably exceed some limit long before the
> transmission begins.
>
> Regards,
> David
>
> On 2024-03-28 09:57, Massimo Biancucci wrote:
> >   Dave,
> >
> > did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything
> > different ?
> > Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?
> >
> > Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any
> difference ?
> >
> > Best regards.
> > Max
> >
> > Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 14:54 Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core
> > Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <
> > 00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> ha scritto:
> >
> >> Classification: Public
> >>
> >> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
> >> does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
> >> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
> >>
> >> Andy Styles
> >> z/Series Systems Programmer
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jousma, David
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> >>
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> >> There is, but same for all lpars involved.
> >>
> >> Dave Jousma
> >> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> behalf
> >> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> >> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> >> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> >> Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at
> 8:
> >> 03 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
> edu>
> >> wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400
> bytes
> >>
> >>
> >> Is there a firewall or switch in the path?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <
> >>
> >> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Joe,
> >>> I had not, just did, worse yet
> >>> EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
> >>> EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
> >>> EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
> >>> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
> >>> Dave Jousma
> >>> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> >>> behalf
> >>> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> >>> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
> >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> >>> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> >>> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
> >>> at
> >>> 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
> >>> edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
> >>> baffled too. >
> >>> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
> >>> Joe
> >>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
> >>> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>  All,
>  Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>  To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
>  DFDSS
>  dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
>  transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
>  transfers
> >>> to
>  some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
>  other
>  systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down
> >>> the
>  problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
>  since
> >>> it
>  is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
>  systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
>  solution though.
>  So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers
> >> are
> >>
>  to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
>  to
> >>> the
>  traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no
> difference,
> >>> nor
>  does LPAR busy or not busy.
>  It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
>  systems
>  that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
>  me,
> >>> I
>  cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
>  that the
>  issue is at the remote end, in that the OS 

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
Dave,

it becomes more interesting.
Could it depend on the file data itself ?

Have you tried a BIG file, EBCDIC with mostly the same data inside ?
Same kind of transmission, MODE B and EBCDIC.

Regards.
Max.




Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 15:09 Jousma, David <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> ha scritto:

> As I mentioned, a standard binary transfer runs all day to all lpars at
> 140Mb/sec.   It seems that only DSS dump files with MODE B, and EBCDIC
> specified slows them down.
>
> I have reached out to our network/firewall teams to see if there some sort
> of data inspection going on.
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
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> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:54 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Classification: Public Do you have access to any other kind of transfer
> mechanism, and if so, does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:
> Direct for example). Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast
> vs slow? Andy Styles z/Series
>
>
> Classification: Public
>
>
>
> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
> does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
>
> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
>
>
>
> Andy Styles
>
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
What about non-zEDC compression for the destination output dataset?




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On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 10:08 AM, Jousma, David 
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> As I mentioned, a standard binary transfer runs all day to all lpars at 
> 140Mb/sec. It seems that only DSS dump files with MODE B, and EBCDIC 
> specified slows them down.
> 
> I have reached out to our network/firewall teams to see if there some sort of 
> data inspection going on.
> 
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU on behalf of 
> Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations ) 
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> 
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:54 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> 
> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Classification: Public Do you have access to any other kind of transfer 
> mechanism, and if so, does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect: Direct 
> for example). Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow? 
> Andy Styles z/Series
> 
> 
> Classification: Public
> 
> 
> 
> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so, does 
> it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
> 
> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread David Spiegel

Hi Max,
XMIT??? ... They would probably exceed some limit long before the 
transmission begins.


Regards,
David

On 2024-03-28 09:57, Massimo Biancucci wrote:

  Dave,

did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything
different ?
Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?

Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any difference ?

Best regards.
Max

Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 14:54 Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core
Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <
00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> ha scritto:


Classification: Public

Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?

Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM
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There is, but same for all lpars involved.

Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:
03 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu>
wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes


Is there a firewall or switch in the path?



Joe



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:




Joe,
I had not, just did, worse yet
EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
behalf
of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
at
7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
baffled too. >
Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
Joe
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

All,
Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
DFDSS
dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
transfers

to

some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
other
systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down

the

problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
since

it

is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
solution though.
So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers

are


to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
to

the

traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,

nor

does LPAR busy or not busy.
It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
systems
that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
me,

I

cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
that the
issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data
fast
enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
direction to look….
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
As I mentioned, a standard binary transfer runs all day to all lpars at 
140Mb/sec.   It seems that only DSS dump files with MODE B, and EBCDIC 
specified slows them down.

I have reached out to our network/firewall teams to see if there some sort of 
data inspection going on.

Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of 
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<00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Classification: Public Do you have access to any other kind of transfer 
mechanism, and if so, does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect: Direct 
for example). Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow? 
Andy Styles z/Series


Classification: Public



Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so, does it 
happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).

Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?



Andy Styles

z/Series Systems Programmer



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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Max,   Yes tracerte’s have been run, packet traces.   It is standard FTP, no 
SSL encryption going on.

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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:58 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Dave, did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything 
different ? Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ? Did you try with XMIT through JNE 
(if available) to measure any difference ? Best regards. Max Il giorno gio 28 
mar 2024


 Dave,



did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything

different ?

Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?



Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any difference ?



Best regards.

Max



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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
All between 4 z15’s

Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:37 AM
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Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
How about processors (z15/z16)? On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7: 30 AM Jousma, David 
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > > All, > > 
Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too. > > To clone


How about processors (z15/z16)?



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:30 AM Jousma, David

<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>

> All,

>

> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS 
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file 
> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to 
> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other 
> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the 
> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it is 
> a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow systems, and 
> still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a solution though.

>

> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
> the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
> does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems that 
> is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I cannot 
> put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the issue is 
> at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast enough, so 
> TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

>

> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction 
> to look….

>

>

> Dave Jousma

> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

>

>

>

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Massimo Biancucci
 Dave,

did you try the basic PING and TRACERTE to see if there's anything
different ?
Is it a basic FTP ? SFTP ? FTPS ?

Did you try with XMIT through JNE (if available) to measure any difference ?

Best regards.
Max

Il giorno gio 28 mar 2024 alle ore 14:54 Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core
Infrastructure & IT Operations ) <
00d68f765d25-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> ha scritto:

> Classification: Public
>
> Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so,
> does it happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
> Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?
>
> Andy Styles
> z/Series Systems Programmer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  On Behalf
> Of Jousma, David
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 1:14 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
>
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> There is, but same for all lpars involved.
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:
> 03 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu>
> wrote: > Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes
>
>
> Is there a firewall or switch in the path?
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <
>
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Joe,
>
> >
>
> > I had not, just did, worse yet
>
> >
>
> > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
>
> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
>
> > EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
>
> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
>
> > EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
>
> > KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
>
> >
>
> > Dave Jousma
>
> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> > behalf
>
> > of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
>
> > Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
>
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
>
> > Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
>
> > Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
> > at
>
> > 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
>
> > edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
>
> > baffled too. >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Joe
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
>
> >
>
> > 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > All,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
> > > DFDSS
>
> >
>
> > > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
>
> >
>
> > > transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
> > > transfers
>
> > to
>
> >
>
> > > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
> > > other
>
> >
>
> > > systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
> > > since
>
> > it
>
> >
>
> > > is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
>
> >
>
> > > systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
>
> >
>
> > > solution though.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers
> are
>
> >
>
> > > to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
> > > to
>
> > the
>
> >
>
> > > traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,
>
> > nor
>
> >
>
> > > does LPAR busy or not busy.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
> > > systems
>
> >
>
> > > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
> > > me,
>
> > I
>
> >
>
> > > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
> > > that the
>
> >
>
> > > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data
> > > fast
>
> >
>
> > > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
>
> >
>
> > > direction to look….
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Dave Jousma
>
> >
>
> > > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Styles, Andy (CIO GS - Core Infrastructure & IT Operations )
Classification: Public

Do you have access to any other kind of transfer mechanism, and if so, does it 
happen with that too? (thinking Connect:Direct for example).
Is the target device of the transfer the same on fast vs slow?

Andy Styles
z/Series Systems Programmer

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There is, but same for all lpars involved.

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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8: 03 AM 
Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > 
Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes


Is there a firewall or switch in the path?



Joe



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:



> Joe,

>

> I had not, just did, worse yet

>

> EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec

> EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec

> EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec

>

> Dave Jousma

> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

>

>

>

>

> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on
> behalf

> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM

> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 

> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's

> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024
> at

> 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.

> edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is

> baffled too. >

>

>

> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?

>

>

>

> Joe

>

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <

>

> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>

>

>

> > All,

>

> >

>

> > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> >

>

> > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a
> > DFDSS

>

> > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file

>

> > transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file
> > transfers

> to

>

> > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to
> > other

>

> > systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down

> the

>

> > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer
> > since

> it

>

> > is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow

>

> > systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a

>

> > solution though.

>

> >

>

> > So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are

>

> > to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are
> > to

> the

>

> > traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,

> nor

>

> > does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> >

>

> > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow”
> > systems

>

> > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of
> > me,

> I

>

> > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except
> > that the

>

> > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data
> > fast

>

> > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

>

> >

>

> > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a

>

> > direction to look….

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dave Jousma

>

> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

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>

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>

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
FWIW I transferred a DSS dump of a z/OS 2.4 SYS1.LINKLIB (3540 tracks) to a 
test LPAR that is capped and to a production LPAR that is not capped.  On the 
test LPAR I got 31MB/sec and on the production LPAR I got 70MB/sec.




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On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 9:36 AM, Mike Schwab 
<05962a42dc49-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> How about processors (z15/z16)?
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:30 AM Jousma, David
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote:
> 
> > All,
> > 
> > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
> > 
> > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS 
> > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be. Its roughly a 50Gb file 
> > transfer. There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to 
> > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other 
> > systems on the same CEC. With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the 
> > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it 
> > is a DSS dump. Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow systems, 
> > and still fast on the fast systems. Obviously that isn’t a solution though.
> > 
> > So, we are a GDPS shop. The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
> > the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
> > traditional application systems. TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
> > does LPAR busy or not busy.
> > 
> > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems 
> > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I 
> > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the 
> > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast 
> > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
> > 
> > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction 
> > to look….
> > 
> > Dave Jousma
> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> > 
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Mike Schwab
How about processors (z15/z16)?

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:30 AM Jousma, David
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>
> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS 
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file 
> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to 
> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other 
> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the 
> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it is 
> a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow systems, and 
> still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a solution though.
>
> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
> the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
> does LPAR busy or not busy.
>
> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems that 
> is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I cannot 
> put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the issue is 
> at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast enough, so 
> TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
>
> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction 
> to look….
>
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be 
> privileged.   It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you 
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
There is, but same for all lpars involved.

Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf of Joe 
Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 9:12 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Is there a firewall or switch in the path? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8: 03 AM 
Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > 
Joe, > > I had not, just did, worse yet > > EZA1485I 12902400 bytes


Is there a firewall or switch in the path?



Joe



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:



> Joe,

>

> I had not, just did, worse yet

>

> EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec

> EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec

> EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23

> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec

>

> Dave Jousma

> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

>

>

>

>

> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf

> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>

> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM

> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 

> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's

> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at

> 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.

> edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is

> baffled too. >

>

>

> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?

>

>

>

> Joe

>

>

>

> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <

>

> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

>

>

>

> > All,

>

> >

>

> > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> >

>

> > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS

>

> > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file

>

> > transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers

> to

>

> > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other

>

> > systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down

> the

>

> > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since

> it

>

> > is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow

>

> > systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a

>

> > solution though.

>

> >

>

> > So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are

>

> > to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to

> the

>

> > traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,

> nor

>

> > does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> >

>

> > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems

>

> > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me,

> I

>

> > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the

>

> > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast

>

> > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

>

> >

>

> > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a

>

> > direction to look….

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Dave Jousma

>

> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and

> may

>

> > be privileged.   It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Joe Monk
Is there a firewall or switch in the path?

Joe

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 8:03 AM Jousma, David <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I had not, just did, worse yet
>
> EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27
> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
> EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65
> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
> EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23
> KB/sec - Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List  on behalf
> of Joe Monk <05971158733e-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
> Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at
> 7: 31 AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua.
> edu> wrote: > All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is
> baffled too. >
>
>
> Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?
>
>
>
> Joe
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
>
> 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > All,
>
> >
>
> > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>
> >
>
> > To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS
>
> > dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
>
> > transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers
> to
>
> > some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other
>
> > systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down
> the
>
> > problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since
> it
>
> > is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
>
> > systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
>
> > solution though.
>
> >
>
> > So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are
>
> > to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to
> the
>
> > traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference,
> nor
>
> > does LPAR busy or not busy.
>
> >
>
> > It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems
>
> > that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me,
> I
>
> > cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the
>
> > issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast
>
> > enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
>
> >
>
> > A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
>
> > direction to look….
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Dave Jousma
>
> > Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Joe,

I had not, just did, worse yet

EZA1485I 12902400 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 1281.27 KB/sec - 
Overall transfer rate 1281.27 KB/sec
EZA1485I 21381120 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 838.65 KB/sec - 
Overall transfer rate 1059.52 KB/sec
EZA1485I 29491200 bytes transferred - 10 second interval rate 791.23 KB/sec - 
Overall transfer rate 969.15 KB/sec

Dave Jousma
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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E? Joe On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7: 31 
AM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-request@ listserv. ua. edu> wrote: > 
All, > > Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too. >


Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?



Joe



On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:



> All,

>

> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS

> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file

> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to

> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other

> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the

> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it

> is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow

> systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a

> solution though.

>

> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are

> to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the

> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor

> does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems

> that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I

> cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the

> issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast

> enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

>

> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a

> direction to look….

>

>

> Dave Jousma

> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

>

>

>

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Thanks Colin,

We’ve already taken packet traces of both, and sent to IBM.   They see the send 
window being reduced automatically by TCPIP because the remote end cannot keep 
up.   the problem only surfaces when doing EBCDIC and BLOCK transfers.


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Colin Paice <059d4daca697-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
Dave, I've been working on a TCP session monitor. It reports MB/Second + 
changes to the TCP parameters, such as change in window size, buffer size etc. 
all of which affect throughput. I can let you have a copy of the program if you 
are interested. 


Dave,



I've been working on a TCP session monitor.   It reports MB/Second +

changes to the TCP parameters, such as change in window size, buffer size

etc. all of which affect throughput.



I can let you have a copy of the program if you are interested.

colinpai...@gmail.com



it reports

//SYSPRINT

Using --PORT 22 --SLEEP 10 --COUNT 10 --TCPIP TCPIP



HH:MM:SS,remote ,BytesI,BytesO,,SegsI ,

SegsO,,BI/Sec,BO/Sec,,ReXmtC,

08:33:23,10.1.0.2:41984 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:33:23,10.1.0.2:4 ,   676, 45832,,54,63,,67,  4583,,

0,

08:33:33,10.1.0.2:41984 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:33:33,10.1.0.2:4 ,52, 27452,,15,28,, 5,  2745,,

0,

08:33:43,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

Freeing entry 10.1.0.2:41984



08:33:53,10.1.0.2:37728 ,   156,  1164,,14,11,,15,   116,,

0,

08:33:53,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:04,10.1.0.2:37728 ,   416, 71932,,50,77,,37,  6539,,

0,

08:34:04,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:14,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:14,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:24,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:24,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:34,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,

08:34:34,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,

0,



The first time the program sees a connection it dumps out

10.1.0.2:41984  JOBNAME SSHD4 Interface TAP0



10.1.0.2:41984   ResourceId:45   InSegs:37

 OutSegs:31 SSThresh: 65535

10.1.0.2:41984  OutBuffered: 0   InBuffered: 0



10.1.0.2:41984   ReXmtCount: 0CongestionWnd: 41760

 RoundTripTime: 4 RoundTripVar:11

10.1.0.2:41984   SndBufSize: 65536   SndWnd: 64128

 MaxSndWnd: 64256  SendMSS:  1452

10.1.0.2:41984   RcvBufSize: 65536   RcvWnd:131020

 Lcl0WindowCount: 0  Rmt0WindowCount: 0

10.1.0.2:41984





If TCPIP parameters change, such as window size you get in //CHANGE



08:33:23 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:2 - o:4 = -2



08:33:23 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:2 - o:7 = -5



08:33:33 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:3 - o:2 = 1



08:33:33 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:3 - o:2 = 1



08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnCongestionWnd n:36000 - o:20160 = 15840



08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:6 - o:10 = -4



08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:17 - o:29 = -12



08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRcvWnd n:131020 - o:130176 = 844





On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 12:31, Jousma, David <

01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:



> All,

>

> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS

> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file

> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to

> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other

> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the

> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it

> is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow

> systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a

> solution though.

>

> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are

> to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the

> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor

> does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems

> that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I

> cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the

> issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the 

Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Joe Monk
Have you tried MODE S (streaming) and TYPE E?

Joe

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 7:31 AM Jousma, David <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> All,
>
> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>
> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to
> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other
> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the
> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it
> is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
> systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
> solution though.
>
> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are
> to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the
> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor
> does LPAR busy or not busy.
>
> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems
> that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I
> cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the
> issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast
> enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
>
> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
> direction to look….
>
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
Thank you, we’ve already compared TCPIP configurations, and they are identical

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Date: Thursday, March 28, 2024 at 8:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: Slow FTP's
z/OS TCP/IP is not my area of expertise. I would check to insure the ITRACE and 
PKTTRACE are turned off, and take a look at TCPCONFIG TCPMAXRCVBUFRSIZE 
TCPRCVBUFRSIZE TCPSENDBFRSIZE And, another possibility D 
TCPIP,tcpipname,NETSTAT,DEV Look


z/OS TCP/IP is not my area of expertise.  I would check to insure the ITRACE 
and PKTTRACE are turned off, and take a look at





TCPCONFIG TCPMAXRCVBUFRSIZE

  TCPRCVBUFRSIZE

  TCPSENDBFRSIZE



And, another possibility



D TCPIP,tcpipname,NETSTAT,DEV



Look for CHECKSUMOFFLOAD YES









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On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 8:30 AM, Jousma, David 
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:



> All,

>

> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

>

> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS 
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be. Its roughly a 50Gb file transfer. 
> There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to some systems 
> (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other systems on the 
> same CEC. With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the problem to the 
> specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it is a DSS dump. 
> Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow systems, and still fast on 
> the fast systems. Obviously that isn’t a solution though.

>

> So, we are a GDPS shop. The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
> the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
> traditional application systems. TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
> does LPAR busy or not busy.

>

> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems that 
> is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I cannot 
> put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the issue is 
> at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast enough, so 
> TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

>

> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction 
> to look….

>

>

> Dave Jousma

> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering

>

>

>

>

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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread rpinion865
z/OS TCP/IP is not my area of expertise.  I would check to insure the ITRACE 
and PKTTRACE are turned off, and take a look at 


TCPCONFIG TCPMAXRCVBUFRSIZE
  TCPRCVBUFRSIZE   
  TCPSENDBFRSIZE

And, another possibility

D TCPIP,tcpipname,NETSTAT,DEV 

Look for CHECKSUMOFFLOAD YES  




Sent with Proton Mail secure email.

On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 8:30 AM, Jousma, David 
<01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> All,
> 
> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
> 
> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS 
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be. Its roughly a 50Gb file transfer. 
> There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to some systems 
> (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other systems on the 
> same CEC. With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the problem to the 
> specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it is a DSS dump. 
> Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow systems, and still fast on 
> the fast systems. Obviously that isn’t a solution though.
> 
> So, we are a GDPS shop. The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
> the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
> traditional application systems. TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
> does LPAR busy or not busy.
> 
> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems that 
> is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I cannot 
> put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the issue is 
> at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast enough, so 
> TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
> 
> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction 
> to look….
> 
> 
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be 
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Re: Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Colin Paice
Dave,

I've been working on a TCP session monitor.   It reports MB/Second +
changes to the TCP parameters, such as change in window size, buffer size
etc. all of which affect throughput.

I can let you have a copy of the program if you are interested.
colinpai...@gmail.com

it reports
//SYSPRINT
Using --PORT 22 --SLEEP 10 --COUNT 10 --TCPIP TCPIP

HH:MM:SS,remote ,BytesI,BytesO,,SegsI ,
SegsO,,BI/Sec,BO/Sec,,ReXmtC,
08:33:23,10.1.0.2:41984 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:33:23,10.1.0.2:4 ,   676, 45832,,54,63,,67,  4583,,
0,
08:33:33,10.1.0.2:41984 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:33:33,10.1.0.2:4 ,52, 27452,,15,28,, 5,  2745,,
0,
08:33:43,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
Freeing entry 10.1.0.2:41984

08:33:53,10.1.0.2:37728 ,   156,  1164,,14,11,,15,   116,,
0,
08:33:53,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:04,10.1.0.2:37728 ,   416, 71932,,50,77,,37,  6539,,
0,
08:34:04,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:14,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:14,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:24,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:24,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:34,10.1.0.2:37728 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,
08:34:34,10.1.0.2:4 , 0, 0,, 0, 0,, 0, 0,,
0,

The first time the program sees a connection it dumps out
10.1.0.2:41984  JOBNAME SSHD4 Interface TAP0

10.1.0.2:41984   ResourceId:45   InSegs:37
 OutSegs:31 SSThresh: 65535
10.1.0.2:41984  OutBuffered: 0   InBuffered: 0

10.1.0.2:41984   ReXmtCount: 0CongestionWnd: 41760
 RoundTripTime: 4 RoundTripVar:11
10.1.0.2:41984   SndBufSize: 65536   SndWnd: 64128
 MaxSndWnd: 64256  SendMSS:  1452
10.1.0.2:41984   RcvBufSize: 65536   RcvWnd:131020
 Lcl0WindowCount: 0  Rmt0WindowCount: 0
10.1.0.2:41984


If TCPIP parameters change, such as window size you get in //CHANGE

08:33:23 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:2 - o:4 = -2

08:33:23 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:2 - o:7 = -5

08:33:33 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:3 - o:2 = 1

08:33:33 10.1.0.2:4  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:3 - o:2 = 1

08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnCongestionWnd n:36000 - o:20160 = 15840

08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRoundTripTime n:6 - o:10 = -4

08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRoundTripVar n:17 - o:29 = -12

08:33:53 10.1.0.2:37728  NWMConnRcvWnd n:131020 - o:130176 = 844


On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 12:31, Jousma, David <
01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> All,
>
> Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.
>
> To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS
> dump, and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file
> transfer.  There is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to
> some systems (40mb’s a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other
> systems on the same CEC.With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the
> problem to the specification of MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it
> is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and the transfer is fast on the slow
> systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  Obviously that isn’t a
> solution though.
>
> So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are
> to the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the
> traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor
> does LPAR busy or not busy.
>
> It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems
> that is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I
> cannot put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the
> issue is at the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast
> enough, so TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.
>
> A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a
> direction to look….
>
>
> Dave Jousma
> Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may
> be privileged.   It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If
> you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate
> it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure,
> copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is
> prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender
> that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your
> computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated.
>
> 

Slow FTP's

2024-03-28 Thread Jousma, David
All,

Grasping at straws here, IBM support center is baffled too.

To clone z/OS maintenance to various disconnected sysplex’s I do a DFDSS dump, 
and FTP it everywhere it needs to be.  Its roughly a 50Gb file transfer.  There 
is some environmental issue causing slow file transfers to some systems (40mb’s 
a sec) and fast file transfers (150Mb/sec) to other systems on the same CEC.
With IBM support help, we’ve narrowed down the problem to the specification of 
MODE B and EBCDIC on the transfer since it is a DSS dump.   Remove those, and 
the transfer is fast on the slow systems, and still fast on the fast systems.  
Obviously that isn’t a solution though.

So, we are a GDPS shop.   The oddity is that all the “fast” transfers are to 
the K systems(control systems), and all the “slow” transfers are to the 
traditional application systems.   TEST, DEV, PROD makes no difference, nor 
does LPAR busy or not busy.

It seems there is something configured differently on the “slow” systems that 
is affecting mode b, ebcdic file transfers, but for the life of me, I cannot 
put my finger on what, nor can the support center, except that the issue is at 
the remote end, in that the OS cannot offload the data fast enough, so 
TCPIP/FTP is slowing the transfer pace.

A virtual adult beverage of choice to the one that can point in a direction to 
look….


Dave Jousma
Vice President | Director, Technology Engineering





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Re: DFsort error message

2024-03-28 Thread Lennie Bradshaw
As for many abend codes, the numbers relate to SVC number.

Open SVC is 19, which is x'13' hence many OPEN issues are 213 or 913 and so on.
EOV SVC is 55, which is x'37', hence many out of space issues are D37, E37 and 
so on.

This informal rule applies to many other SVCs as well.

Lennie Dymoke-Bradshaw
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Subject: Re: DFsort error message

One of the most important things I learned 45 years ago was 37 is always a 
space issue. 13 was an open issue and 14 a close issue.

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On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 1:24 PM, Ron Thomas 
<[0600304cab5d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu](mailto:On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 
at 1:24 PM, Ron Thomas < wrote:

> Hi All -
>
> We are getting a sort error on a huge file . Below are the details 
> from log
>
> Parm cards used
> SORT FIELDS=COPY
>
> Error Log details
>
> ICE193I 0 ICEAM1 INVOCATION ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM1 ENVIRONMENT 
> SELECTED ICE252I 1 PARMLIB OPTIONS WERE MERGED WITH INSTALLATION 
> MODULE DEFAULTS ICE088I 0 ITGB9059.STEP02 .SORT , INPUT LRECL = 317, 
> BLKSIZE = 27896, TYPE = ICE093I 0 MAIN STORAGE = 
> (MAX,33554432,33554432) ICE156I 0 MAIN STORAGE ABOVE 16MB = 
> (33497072,33497072) ICE127I 0 OPTIONS: OVFLO=RC0 ,PAD=RC0 ,TRUNC=RC0 
> ,SPANINC=RC16,VLSCMP=N,SZERO=Y, ICE128I 0 OPTIONS: 
> SIZE=33554432,MAXLIM=1048576,MINLIM=450560,EQUALS=N,LIST=Y,ER
> ICE129I 0 OPTIONS: VIO=N,RESDNT=ALL ,SMF=FULL 
> ,WRKSEC=Y,OUTSEC=Y,VERIFY=N,CHALT=
> ICE130I 0 OPTIONS: RESALL=8192,RESINV=0,SVC=109 
> ,CHECK=Y,WRKREL=Y,OUTREL=Y,CKPT= ICE131I 0 OPTIONS: 
> TMAXLIM=33554432,ARESALL=0,ARESINV=0,OVERRGN=65536,CINV=Y,CFW
> ICE132I 0 OPTIONS: VLSHRT=N,ZDPRINT=Y,IEXIT=N,TEXIT=N,LISTX=N,EFS=NONE 
> ,EXITC ICE133I 0 OPTIONS: HIPRMAX=0 
> ,DSPSIZE=2000,ODMAXBF=2097152,SOLRF=N,VLLONG=N
> ICE235I 0 OPTIONS: NULLOUT=RC0
> ICE236I 0 OPTIONS: DYNAPCT=10 ,MOWRK=Y,TUNE=STOR,EXPMAX=2000 
> ,EXPOLD=MAX ,E ICE084I 0 EXCP ACCESS METHOD USED FOR SORTIN ICE889I 0 
> CT=MAX , SB=3, L=0, D=, CCW=1MAM ICE902I 0 O I PP11 ICE906I 1 
> ST=ABOVE,SR=33497072,RC=0 ICE907I 1 
> ST=ABOVE,SA=33497056,NF=1,LF=33497056,SF=33497056
> ICE906I 1 ST=BELOW,SR=98320,RC=0
> ICE907I 1 ST=BELOW,SA=49152,NF=1,LF=49152,SF=49152
> ICE231I 0 STORAGE USED FOR OUTFIL : BELOW 16M = 20480, ABOVE 16M = 
> 2119680 ICE231I 0 STORAGE USED FOR OUTFIL : BELOW 16M = 20480, ABOVE 
> 16M = 2119680 ICE855I 0 SORTOUT : TX=N, R=J, L=J, B=D, BL=0, BR=0, 
> DCT=37, VS=N, RU=X, SB=8 ICE210I 0 SORTOUT : EXCP USED, LRECL = 317, 
> BLKSIZE = 27896, TYPE = FB ICE751I 2 EF-I80638 CB-NONE F0-NONE 
> DA-I76950 ICE185A 0 AN SE37 ABEND WAS ISSUED BY DFSORT, ANOTHER 
> PROGRAM OR AN EXIT (PHASE
>
> Job Step work file details . Allocated SORTWK50 files
>
> XXSORTWK09 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK10 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK11 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK12 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK13 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK14 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK15 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK16 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK17 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK18 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
> XXSORTWK19 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,())
> IEFC653I SUBSTITUTION JCL - DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE),SPACE=(CYL,(200))
>
> //SORTOUT DD DSN=KGN01.PS.RPCFIL.AMT.ACTV.UNLD.FINAL1.HDR,
> // SPACE=(CYL,(1200,500),RLSE),VOL=(,,,99),
> // RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS,
> // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),LRECL=317,BLKSIZE=0
> //SYSIN DD DSN=MK.PS.PROD.PARMLIB(PSJH06P),DISP=SHR
>
> Could someone please let us know what needs to be done here?
>
> Regards
> Ron T
>
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