Re: Q: Where is LISTDSI kept? A: Not where you think.

2023-02-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Tzvi AMV"SH, You said: "...Be careful. If you meant a fully qualified dataset name, you need to code this. ..." That's true unless the user has issued: PROFILE NOPREFix Regards,. David On 2023-02-20 20:32, Hobart Spitz wrote: On Mon, 20 Feb 2023, 17:07 Steely.Mark, wrote: Here is a si

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Leonard, You said: "... a manager who thought if he couldn't see you, you weren't working ..." This is the government mentality I referred to earlier. Here is one other weird fact .., the per capita insanity (in Yiddish M'shugaas) rises from municipal to state/provincial to federal. (I've wo

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-20 Thread David Spiegel
it is simply a description of what going back is like. -C S Lewis, quoted in _In His Image_ by Dr Paul Brand and Philip Yancey */ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Monday, February 20, 2023 06:49 I have seen many job ads which say &

Re: How long for an experiened z/OS sysprog to come up to speed on a new environment?

2023-02-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, I've been saying this (i.e. matter of trust) for many years. I also say that any (potential) employer who demands that a SysProg work on-site is being illogical. I have seen many job ads which say "remote until COVID". This means that they are willing to trust my work out of the office

Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, In IOF: MVS D PROG,APF Regards, David On 2023-02-16 06:23, Bill Giannelli wrote: thank you all for your responses and feedback! We dont have SDSF we have IOF. I dont know if IOF has features to display things like APF authorizations. thanks Bill ---

Re: [EXTERNAL] CLIST for APF and link list datasets

2023-02-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bill, Maybe OMEGAMON or SYSVIEW? Regards, David On 2023-02-14 17:04, Bill Giannelli wrote: no, it had a menu of almost all the entries in z/OS with APF and LLA amongst them. It might have been a third party software --

Re: Transmitting SMF records

2023-01-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Paul, Do you DFSMSdss->AMATERSE->XMIT large amounts of SMF Data? (Probably not.) I would never try to XMIT a Dataset like this (assuming that you could even have enough space for the XMIT Output.) Not only that , but BLKSIZE=3120 is inefficient and really slow (and with no Transmit Exit, gene

Re: Changing the INTRAY parameter of an output file

2022-12-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gadi AMV"SH, Program Rexx to do it via SDSF API calls? Shabbat Shalom Regards, David On 2022-12-29 07:33, Gadi Ben-Avi wrote: I know I can do it in SDSF, but the job in question can have tens of output files, and I'm sure to miss one. As opposed to other actions done through SDSF, this one

Re: ZFS Address Space, shared ENQ but filesystem isn't mounted

2022-12-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Shelia, "WHOHAS" is not a IBM-supplied TSO Command. Regards, David On 2022-12-28 16:19, Shelia Chalk wrote: Mark, Have you tried going to 3.4 put in the zfs address space dataset and in the command field type in whohas This will tell who has the dataset. Thanks Shelia C -Original Me

Re: ICKDSF

2022-12-22 Thread David Spiegel
HI Steve, |//jobname JOB //stepname EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A //DDCARD DD UNIT=(3390,,DEFER),VOL=(PRIVATE,SER=VL3390), // DISP=OLD //SYSIN DD * BUILDIX DDNAME(DDCARD) OS NOPURGE /* ||//jobname JOB //stepname EXEC PGM=ICKDSF //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=A //VOLDD DD UNIT=(3

Re: Markup languages

2022-12-22 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jeremy, CBT Files 280-287 (cbttape.org) Regards, David On 2022-12-22 12:24, Jeremy Nicoll wrote: On Thu, 22 Dec 2022, at 00:38, Thomas Kern wrote: I have liked Waterloo Script since I was introduced to it and began writing Data Center Operation manuals using it. Is an executable for it av

Re: Computers

2022-12-11 Thread David Spiegel
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of David Spiegel <0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2022 3:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Computers Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, IIRC, IEHDASDR supported 3350. Regards, David On 2022-12

Re: Computers

2022-12-11 Thread David Spiegel
6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ElFsy5cZk%2FxPN1iM1nnt1kUa0TMCIJnsNiZ3z2e%2FRLc%3D&reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, Decem

Re: Computers

2022-12-09 Thread David Spiegel
IEHDASDR  was part of MVT (early '70s) DF/DSS came much later (maybe 10 years?) On 2022-12-09 13:12, Seymour J Metz wrote: I believe that DASDR and DF/DSS came later. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=05%7C0

Re: Computers

2022-12-06 Thread David Spiegel
Lk2nuJDhYaKsIFnuMMnfCTpeznjEMdH5cYzKFB1FQ%3D&reserved=0 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of David Spiegel [0468385049d1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu] Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 6:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@L

Re: Computers

2022-12-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Leonard, You said: "... That computer center had MVS 3.0 running in the mid 1970s. ..." Is "MVS 3.0" a typo? (I do not recall ever hearing of MVS 3.0.) Thanks and regards, David On 2022-12-02 02:15, Leonard D Woren wrote: Bill Hitefield wrote on 11/30/2022 10:39 AM: In college we had an IB

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Rene. You said: "... Who actually wants to use Windows for work? ..." Whether they want to or not, 90% of people use Windows for work. Regards, David On 2022-11-18 13:12, René Jansen wrote: RMFIII is my main use case. Not supporting GDDM is a case of self-fulfilling prophecy. Quality of 327

Re: TNZ 3270 Emulator: Any Experiences?

2022-11-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi KB, OCO=Object Code Only That is, IBM's 1983 unintelligent decision to stop supplying Source Code. Yet, schizophrenically, they support Open Source. SMH (for the last 39 years). Regards, David On 2022-11-18 10:33, kekronbekron wrote: Hi Paul, What's OCO? - KB --- Original Message --

Re: Songs of the IBM

2022-11-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Dave, When I worked at STC Canada, one of the FE's had a way of playing Beethoven's 9th using a SPAR Tape and flicking switches inside the controller. Regards, David On 2022-11-15 12:29, Dave Jousma wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 11:03:46 -0600, Carmen Vitullo wrote: Had me thinking of the

Re: End of several eras

2022-11-01 Thread David Spiegel
5ML237RZCH7jEd5FDWlbJTROyDEo28%3D&reserved=0 On 10/31/2022 4:42 PM, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Tom, 1983, eh? The same year as the (expletive deleted) OCO policy. I've seen IBM-lifers defend it on this forum, yet, it still did not/does not make sense. Regards, David On 2022-10-31 19:31, T

Re: End of several eras

2022-10-31 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Tom, 1983, eh? The same year as the (expletive deleted) OCO policy. I've seen IBM-lifers defend it on this forum, yet, it still did not/does not make sense. Regards, David On 2022-10-31 19:31, Tom Brennan wrote: I get it... I just heard from an old co-worker that sometime this month they s

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Iebcopy rename hlq??

2022-10-21 Thread David Spiegel
number of qualifiers. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Iebcopy rename hlq?? Hi James, You can use DFSMSdss to COPY with RENAME. Here is an exa

Re: Iebcopy rename hlq??

2022-10-20 Thread David Spiegel
Hi James, You can use DFSMSdss to COPY with RENAME. Here is an example: //STEP001 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU ,PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' //SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=* //SYSIN    DD  *   COPY DS(    - INCL(   - HLQ

Re: JES3 SMPE zone in Serverpac

2022-10-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Keith, z/OS V2.5 is the last release that IBM will deliver JES3. That may also be related to the separate Target Zone. Regards, David On 2022-10-06 09:11, Keith Gooding wrote: Thanks Paul. We still need to have JES3 because as an ISV we do have to do some testing on a JES3 system. It wou

Re: How to use LISTDSI from Rexx under Unix shell?

2022-09-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, Some software vendors distribute their CLIST/Rexx PDSs/PDSEs only as FB/80. This will cause you grief because you cannot concatenate VB and FB. That is why I have never converted to VB CLISTs/Rexx. It's just not worth the extra work. (Yes, I know that you can ALTLIB, but, that is not alw

Re: Latin

2022-09-18 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Joel, To your point, I read an article on German grammar (same as Yiddish) to figure out the difference between "mir" and "mich". It turns out that one is dative and the other is accusative. Without learning Latin (more than 50 years ago), this article would've been a lot harder to read. R

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-18 Thread David Spiegel
The 2nd edition is selling for $291.03. That's a lot of money for a book. On 2022-09-18 06:09, Arthur Fichtl wrote: You might take a look also at this book, author: Carmine A. Cannatello "Advanced assembler language and MVS interfaces (2nd ed.): for IBM systems and application programmers" h

Re: Assembler courses

2022-09-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, Based upon your remarks, it seems as if you're unfamiliar with Exits and reading dumps. BTW, I took Latin in high school and it helped me (albeit indirectly). Regards, David On 2022-09-17 15:17, Bob T Roller wrote: Learning assembler is like taking latin in high school. It might help

Re: VVDS problem

2022-08-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Matthew, I was thinking the same. I would suggest DELETE x.y.z NSCR before the DEFINE though. Regards, David On 2022-08-26 10:57, Matthew Stitt wrote: I wonder if a DEFINE NONVSAM RECATALOG command would come close to resolving your issue. Matthew On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 11:52:35 +0100, Jack

Re: realtime monitoring of various storage subpools

2022-08-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Dave, Have you looked at GFS Trace? Please see: GETMAIN, FREEMAIN, STORAGE (GFS) trace - IBM Documentation Regards, David On 2022-08-25 13:37, Dave Jousma wrote: All, is there another method to monitor s

Re: rexx and IDCAMS functions

2022-08-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, I am late to the party ... IDCAMS Commands in TSO are not the same as IDCAMS Commands  in IDCAMS. For example, this works in TSO, but, it does not work in IDCAMS: LISTC EN('SYS1.LINKLIB) (In IDCAMS "EN" is not a valid abbreviation for ENTRY, but, in TSO it is valid.) Also, when invoking I

Re: ARM

2022-08-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steve, The AB/S0878 might be a result of SMF Exits needing re-coding. Also, if you supply the (subcode e.g. 0C) it would be helpful. It might also be related to too many active channels in MQ. Please see: Why is the IBM MQ Channel Initiator abending with ABEND878?

Re: REXX Testing a bit?

2022-08-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Lionel, (assuming Rexx) you can omit "=1" Regards, David On 2022-08-02 07:50, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: What is the best way to test if a bit is 1 or 0? I'm doing this but was thinking there may/probably is a better way: If substr(x2b(c2x(flag1)),6,1) = 1 then say 'got it'

Re: Catalog to VTOC comparison

2022-08-01 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, As you requested: //STEP001 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01 //STEPLIB  DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=FILE135.PDS //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSIN  DD *   VTOC volser -    CAT -    LIM(CAT NE C) -   PRINT(NEW (CAT ALLOC  UNUSED PCT EX DSO RFM LRECL BLKSZ CDATE REFDT -   VOLUME DSNAME)) - where "volse

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-25 Thread David Spiegel
;s Sunday. Yes COPY DELETE is correct. On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 4:18 PM David Spiegel < dspiegel...@hotmail.com> wrote: Hi John, "...ADRDSSU MOVE..." There is no such verb. Maybe you mean COPY ... DELETE? Regards, David On 2022-07-24 17:03, John McKown wrote: ADRDSSU MOVE

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, "...ADRDSSU MOVE..." There is no such verb. Maybe you mean COPY ... DELETE? Regards, David On 2022-07-24 17:03, John McKown wrote: ADRDSSU MOVE can scan volumes for uncatalogued datasets and MOVE the to a sequential dataset, or just DD DUMMY. It doesn't care what the DSN is, even if it

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, One problem ... If you use ISPF 3.4 to search (masked) VOLSERs, your results won't show if the Datasets are Cataloged or not. Regards, David On 2022-07-24 15:11, wrote: Hi, I remembered an old way to get what you want. Use ISPF 3.4 and specify : Volume serial Last Updated: 2021-

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-23 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, What if you ... 1) Restore an old backup copy of a Catalog? 2) Do a DELETE dsname NOSCRATCH? Regards, David On 2022-07-22 19:08, Mike Schwab wrote: SMS storage groups can't have uncataloged data sets, so you can eliminate those volumes. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 9:01 AM Jack Zukt wrote

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, So will The VTOC Command Processor (CBT File 112) and it's free. Not only that, but VTOC an also show incorrectly Cataloged Datasets (with the same Job). Regards, David On 2022-07-22 11:10, Mike Shaw wrote: Jack, MVS/QuickRef will give you a list of the uncataloged data sets across

Re: Finding uncatalogued datasets

2022-07-22 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jack, The VTOC Command Processor (CBT File 112). If you install it, I can supply JCL  to do this. Regards, David On 2022-07-22 10:00, Jack Zukt wrote: Hi all, As a byproduct of what I am working now, I have found out a few uncatalogued datasets. Now I would like to find out all the uncatalog

Re: VM: redefine virtual storage from an EXEC

2022-07-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Binyamin AMV"SH, Place a x'15' between  commands Regards, David On 2022-07-14 09:16, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I have not been successfully making an exec re-IPL CM'S after redefining storage. If I directly issue #cp def stor 32m#cp ipl cms parm autocr it changes the storage size and re-

Re: How do I issue a command with a blank in it?

2022-07-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, You said: "..as XEDIT and "sed" do ..." IIRC, TSO Edit should be included in this list. Regards, David On 2022-07-10 11:31, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 13:11:17 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: ... if someone were able to do an RFE with a compelling business case to allow

Re: NOTSP The Latin of Software Code Is Thriving - The New York Times

2022-07-08 Thread David Spiegel
+1 On 2022-07-08 10:51, Dave Jones wrote: Timothy Sipples said: "Which leads to an interesting thought exercise. In 2022 if you're trying to choose a programming language for business application programming that stands the best chance of being durable (being realistically maintainable, exten

Re: Using SORT to generate sequential Dates

2022-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi, You said: "... lunar calendar used in Israel ..." The lunar calendar is used by all Jews, not just Jews in Israel. That is why Passover, Chanukah, Rosh HaShanah etc. don't always start on the same solar date. Regards, David On 2022-06-30 19:35, Retired Mainframer wrote: -Original Mes

Re: Java?

2022-06-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Gil, "...traumatized during gestation by a dubbing? ..." Maybe, too many foreign movies? {:->} Regards, David On 2022-06-30 13:03, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:55:08 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: "dubbing" basically means that a TCB gets assigned a z/OS UNIX pid.If you run z

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
edition p189. */ -----Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2022 10:47 When I programmed PL/I 40+ year ago, lining up the END; with the body was de rigeur. Initially, of course, that was using cards. When ISPF (or XEDIT) came

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Bob, When I programmed PL/I 40+ year ago, lining up the END; with the body was de rigeur. Initially, of course, that was using cards. When ISPF (or XEDIT) came along, lining up the END: with DO/SELECT etc. made a lot more sense since excluded lines could be shown by column number containing

Re: Some questions on SYSCALL

2022-06-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi David, The paragraphing style was used historically by PL/I. Rexx syntactically is a PL/I derivative, Regards, David On 2022-06-29 08:32, David Crayford wrote: On 29/06/2022 8:27 pm, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: The formatting was a quick and dirty - I typically use the REXXFORM edit macro to clea

Re: Highlighted Console Messages

2022-06-24 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Brian, I purposely avoided being explicit to let the readers draw their own conclusions. Regards, David On 2022-06-24 00:18, Brian Westerman wrote: That's almost the same thing, right? :) On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 06:56:29 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: HI Brian, In Ontario, OPP=On

Re: Highlighted Console Messages

2022-06-23 Thread David Spiegel
HI Brian, In Ontario, OPP=Ontario Provincial Police. Regards, David On 2022-06-22 23:35, Brian Westerman wrote: Please excuse the marketing aspect of this, but our SyzMPF/z product can notify via email, sms text message, or TSO notify any person or persons that are interested in any message t

Re: Some UNIX file usage questions

2022-06-21 Thread David Spiegel
Shkoyach! On 2022-06-21 08:55, Seymour J Metz wrote: Lots of Yiddish idioms are in the form of a question, and if a translator misses the implied question mark, all meaning is lost. The phrase "I could care less" is the result of applying a tin ear to a sarcastic Yiddish idiom. The Yiddish id

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, It's a good thing that טומטום and אנררוגינוס were not introduced into this discussion. That might really cloud the issues. Regards, David On 2022-06-09 16:49, Seymour J Metz wrote: Neuter singular pronouns for living beings. "They" and "them" are nominally plural in conte

Re: ] Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I don't want to go too far off-track here (this forum has nothing to do with Hebrew), but, the plural form (in Biblical Hebrew) denotes more importance (i.e. חֲשִיבוּת) than the singular form and is ALWAYS set to the masculine gender (however sexist that may sound to modern

Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, I've been hearing "an Exec" (referring to VM) since 1982. One has to keep in mind, however, that "an Exec" was also used for EXEC and EXEC2. Regards, David On 2022-06-08 06:58, Seymour J Metz wrote: While I cringe at "a REXX" or "a software", "an EXEC" doesn't bother me. I

Re: "A Rexx" (or "A REXX")

2022-06-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, *obscenities Regards, David On 2022-06-08 06:35, Seymour J Metz wrote: This abuse of latin-derived plurals leads to such obsenities as "piece of data" where "datum" would suffice and "medias". "Why can't the English learn to speak?";was that in Pygmalian, or added for My

Re: Rexx generic compare

2022-06-07 Thread David Spiegel
HI ITschak AMV"SH, Have you looked at the Catalog Search Interface (CSI)? There is a Rexx sample in 'SYS1.SAMPLIB(IGGCSIRX)'. If you care to look at Regular Expressions, please see Martin Packer's TSO Regular Expression Testing Tool – Mainframe, Performance, Topics (mainframeperformancetopics.co

Re: SLIP IF not working

2022-06-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, Is the module an LPA module? Regards, David On 2022-06-07 09:19, Robin Atwood wrote: I wanted to get a dump of my server when the instruction at 001234 in module MOD1 gets executed, so I entered: SLIP SET,IF,J=SRV1,PVTMOD=(MOD1,001234),ID=SLP1,END I made a transaction that

Re: data set deletion problem

2022-05-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Ed, His Dataset is SMS-Managed, Your solution will not work. Regards, David On 2022-05-28 23:56, Ed Jaffe wrote: On 5/28/2022 5:27 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Doesn't IBM supply a "Use at Your Own Risk" facility to rename a data set despite an ENQ on the DSN? https://nam12.safelinks.prot

Re: Has anyone successfully configured TLS v1.3 in PAGENT?

2022-05-19 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, On my V2.5 (zPDT) system, it's still the V2.3 sample. I would also be interested in a working AT-TLS 1.3 setup for FTP Server. Regards, David On 2022-05-19 19:34, Charles Mills wrote: I've got PAGENT working with TLS v1.2 and below for FTP Server. I started working my way through h

Re: File Manager questions (or other way to copy unlike PDSes)

2022-05-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, Q3. I don't know about preventing change to ISPF Statistics, but, they can be set via the PDS Command Processor (CBT File 182). ATTRIB member1 ID(myuser) CREATED(05/11/22) LAST(05/12/22) TIME(1015) SECS(30) (You can write a program to issue the ATTRIB against all of the members in t

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
of my default DATACLAS. I know the EOF is there. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Hi Dave, I tested it. Your hypothesis

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 9:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques Hi Paul, Allocation does allocation and nothing but allocation. It does not write anything at all. Regards, David On 2022-05-11 12:17, Paul

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
the file later. -Original Message----- From: David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:07 AM I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14 (with respect to allocation/freeing unused disk space by DD Statement)? Maybe your shop has an Exit or add-on product

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques HI David, I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14

Re: Potential Resource Savings Techniques

2022-05-11 Thread David Spiegel
HI David, I do not understand this at all. How does any program differ from IEFBR14 (with respect to allocation/freeing unused disk space by DD Statement)? Maybe your shop has an Exit or add-on product which does Storage Management? David On 2022-05-11 01:53, wrote: 5. Consider changi

Re: SAF without an ESM

2022-05-05 Thread David Spiegel
*flotsam On 2022-05-05 19:45, Kirk Wolf wrote: Oh my, LOL. About half of ibm-main posts are attempts at humor (many unintentional), and the other half are just pedantic flotsum but that actually landed somewhere else. On Thu, May 5, 2022, at 5:25 PM, Phil Smith III wrote: Alan Altmark wrote

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Phil, 1) Use the SET DISPLAY ON command to see your settings 2) OWNER PHS 3) PREFIX ** (2 asterisks are necessary; it's been a quirk in the product since GA back in '87.) 4) INPUT ON Regards, David On 2022-05-03 11:46, Phil Smith III wrote: Lionel and I have been communicating about his ve

Re: SDSF - ISPF questions (wishes?)

2022-05-02 Thread David Spiegel
Hmm ... Sounds like IOF's ARChive command. On 2022-05-02 08:07, Lionel B. Dyck wrote: Kirk - I know of no way to add a descriptor record separating each DD when extracting multiple DD's using SDSF to a single target dataset. That does look to be a useful feature - you should submit an RFE for i

Re: Question About ADRDSSU

2022-04-12 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Mike, There is no asterisk to the left of PARM. Regards, David On 2022-04-12 02:27, Mike Shorkend wrote: You can code your EXEC statement like this to check which datasets ADRDSSU will process (without actually doing it): //COPYMOVE EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,REGION=7M,TIME=99,*PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'*

Re: AFP confusion

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Jay, If you code LNKAUTH=APFTAB in IEASYSxx, then you're correct. If you code LNKAUTH=LNKLST, then your assertion is incorrect. Regards, David On 2022-03-30 15:01, Jay Maynard wrote: Libraries accessed through STEPLIB/JOBLIB aren't APF-authorized simply by virtue of being listed on the link

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Metz. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David Spiegel Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22 Hi Charles, Samuel is a "translation" o

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Charles, Samuel is a "translation" of Sh'muel (based upon the Septuagint's Bible translation (Hebrew->Greek->English). Regards, David On 2022-03-30 11:32, Charles Mills wrote: Different Samuel/Shmuel! Charles -- For

Re: Contributions to CBT snce 02/22/22

2022-03-30 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, "... laid up ..."? In case this involves something health-related, R'fuoh Sh'leimoh. If you want a MeShebeirach, please give me your full Jewish name and you mother's full Jewish name. Hatzlochoh! Regards, David On 2022-03-30 10:09, Sam Golob wrote: Dear Folks,    I hav

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
avid On 2022-03-29 10:37, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 29 Mar 2022 09:22:10 -0400, David Spiegel wrote: You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes the DO st

Re: FORTRAN comma

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
it?  (I looked with google, without success). Thanks, Robin On 2022-03-30 00:22, David Spiegel wrote: Hi Robin You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes t

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-29 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin You said: "... BTW, the change in format of the DO was essential in preventing the flaw in FORTRAN (which still exists) by which a period instead of the first comma changes the DO statement into an assignment statement.  ..." Have you ever read the Datamation article regarding the comma

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-28 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, You said: "... These new features were introduced in PL/I: ..." Pseudo-variables (i.e. SUBSTR, UNSPEC), Source Margins (not exactly the language itself). Regards, David On 2022-03-28 06:26, Robin Vowels wrote: On 2022-03-28 20:43, Seymour J Metz wrote: I'm fully aware of the initia

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Like ALGOL and Pascal? Regards, David On 2022-03-27 22:52, Seymour J Metz wrote: Personally, I wish that IBM had chosen ":=" for assignment. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmason.gmu.edu%2F~smetz3&data=04%7C01%7C

Re: PL/I question

2022-03-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Robin, While you're busy correcting ... IBM uses American spelling  ... *Optimizing (not the British/Continental/etc. Optimising). Regards, David On 2022-03-27 11:25, Robin Vowels wrote: Oops, a typo. The PL/I Optimising and checkout compilers were available from 1970. --- This email has

Re: FORMAC was ABP

2022-03-25 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Carmen, At different jobs in the '80s: 1) "Decision Support" with the ADRS add-on (at a computer hardware company) 2) crunching Nielsen marketing data (at a large multi-national food company) 3) actuarial stuff (insurance) Regards, David On 2022-03-25 14:47, Carmen Vitullo wrote: I don't want

Re: How to simplify IODF activation

2022-03-17 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Allan, Why can't the user FTP the Batch Activate Job to all 28 LPARs? Regards, David On 2022-03-17 11:03, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential I believe you are out of luck. Since these are all single-image systems, each needs the IODF activated individually. There is an optio

Re: ESTAE and IEBCOPY

2022-03-08 Thread David Spiegel
Screen Scrape the Job Log /SYSLOG via SDSF API. On 2022-03-08 10:03, Steff Gladstone wrote: In one of our REXX procedures we execute IEBCOPY to copy a member from one PDS to another. Sometimes IEBCOPY fails (e.g., for lack of space either in the directory or the library). It intercepts the aben

Re: RTM2WA

2022-03-08 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Steff, IBM introduced SYS1.MODGEN many years ago (1990s). In case a PTF is APPLYd, but not ACCEPTd, you're not going to see it in SYS1.AMODGEN. Regards, David On 2022-03-08 07:37, Steff Gladstone wrote: Where can I find the DSECT for the RTM2WA control block? I did not find it in either S

Re: How to get APAR number

2022-03-07 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Allan, I looked at Fix Central (as you suggested) and searched on Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for Messaging for z/OS V7.5.0. It does not contain z/OS APARs/PTFs. It does, however, contain Windows/*IX service. Regards, David On 2022-03-07 09:14, Allan Staller wrote: Classification: Confidential No

Re: Job submission from CMS to MVS

2022-03-06 Thread David Spiegel
Hi R'Shmuel AMV"SH, Gut Voch How about via TCP/IP from CMS? Regards, David On 2022-03-06 09:58, Seymour J Metz wrote: There are two obvious way to submit an MVS job from CMS: 1. Spool it ti RSCS and let it go in via NJE 2. Spool it to a virtual reader on MVS I'm curious as to how many s

Re: Meet Zorow, An Open Mainframe Project For z/OS Systems - Open Mainframe Project

2022-03-03 Thread David Spiegel
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Re: Meet Zorow, An Open Mainframe Project For z/OS Systems - Open Mainframe Project

2022-03-01 Thread David Spiegel
Take a cue from Charles Manson ... Zezozose Zadfrack On 2022-03-01 20:01, PINION, RICHARD W. wrote: No wait, Zoltar, from a MST3000 episode. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, March 1, 2022 7:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: Rexx routine to dump all variables when debugging?

2022-02-16 Thread David Spiegel
Hi W M, I'm interested. da...@ddstar.com Thanks and regards, David On 2022-02-16 20:38, W Mainframe wrote: Hey,Provide me your email and I will send a routine to list  rexx variables. In my routine you will be able to search variables current rexx pool showing the result in sysout or you can

Re: Holy Moly ...

2022-02-15 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, Good thing you're not RUSTy. Regards, David On 2022-02-15 21:47, John McKown wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:34 PM Seymour J Metz wrote: While it's certainly not impossible, it's certainly very difficult to retrain a HLASM programmer to Java, Python, Javascript etc. It's not beca

Re: Definition of z/OS SYSRES volume

2022-02-14 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Matt. You said: "... contains configuration information about the system being started. ..." The PARMLIB concatenation and IODF do not have to be on the SYSRES. Your statement is therefore incorrect. Regards, David On 2022-02-14 20:12, Matt Hogstrom wrote: It depends on the background of t

Re: MVS PURGE command

2022-02-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Radek, Was it CICS-related? Regards, David On 2022-02-03 15:34, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: W dniu 03.02.2022 o 21:25, Tony Harminc pisze: On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 at 12:59, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: BTW: current z/OS 2.4 still supports UNIT=SEP construct in JCL. Yes, it is ignored, but still syn

Re: USS Rexx mistery

2022-02-03 Thread David Spiegel
Hi KB, It's a contraction  for "Hash Bang", i.e. a number sign/pound sign/Hash (Upper Shift 3 on a US Keyboard) followed by an exclamation mark (Upper Shift 1 on a US Keyboard). The Shebang is used at the start of a script to tell the *ix shell which scripting language to invoke. It is similar

Re: More of LOG4J

2022-01-30 Thread David Spiegel
AFAIK, UID(0) (via CNMEUNIX) has nothing to do with reading (downloading) the unprotected RACF Database. There is another factor ... the uneducated/inexperienced administrators did not protect a multi-session product (IIRC, it was TPX). As well, the hackers found a bug in NVAS ... changing a non-

Re: Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-27 Thread David Spiegel
Thu, 27 Jan 2022 at 16:31, David Spiegel wrote: Is it possible for an Exec/CLIST to determine from which Exec/CLIST it was invoked? If yes, please specify how. <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tek-tips.com%2Fviewthread.cfm%3Fqid%3D1162402&data=

Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-27 Thread David Spiegel
Hi List, Is it possible for an Exec/CLIST to determine from which Exec/CLIST it was invoked? If yes, please specify how. Thank you in advance. Regards, David -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-26 Thread David Spiegel
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Tracking CLIST/Exec Usage

2022-01-26 Thread David Spiegel
Hi List, I have been given the task of cleaning up unused software. Part of that is identifying which CLISTs/Execs are not being used. Can someone please suggest a way to do this? Thank you in advance. Regards, David -- For IB

Re: Available ASIDs low and dropping

2022-01-10 Thread David Spiegel
Hi John, I am curious ... How does your shop APPLY maintenance without an IPL? (I know that the LNKLST can be rebuilt dynamically, but, that (according to documentation I've read) is not 100% foolproof.) Regards, David On 2022-01-10 10:22, John Blythe Reid wrote: Rob, ADABAS does support REU

Re: Console message alignement

2022-01-09 Thread David Spiegel
Hi Peter, With z/OS up, please try  these 2 console commands: K E,D (in case there a re messages on the bottom of the screen) K A,NONE Try a command which displays a large message, e.g. D A,L Regards, David On 2022-01-09 01:19, Peter wrote: Hello I am referring the MVS tuning and reference to

Re: ... Re: Top 8 Reasons for using Python instead of REXX for z/OS

2022-01-04 Thread David Spiegel
As an aside, In Quebec French, The "ne" is dropped. On 2022-01-04 20:17, Seymour J Metz wrote: I don't know of any language where two negatives make a negative. I know of languages that have distributed negatives, e.g., "Je ne parle pas Français." in French. AFAIK it would be incorrect to omit

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