When I was at Orange Coast College in the mid-70s, we had a 370-155 that had
non-IBM memory. The College had a microwave link between the Costa Mesa campus
and the Huntington Beach campus. The microwave link was at the campus library,
and they fired it up about 9AM each week-day. The
I can answer one part of this. GDGs can be members of PDS or PDSE. This has
been true for a long time. The actual generated member name is different than
for a GDG dataset.
Lloyd
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On Monday, May 29, 2023, 5:56 PM, Charles Mills wrote:
1. Is there any
I usually use pax either via the command line or batch to an MVS file and then
DFSMS the MVS file.
Lloyd
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On Thursday, August 11, 2022, 8:39 AM, Mark Jacobs
<0224d287a4b1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
I'm trying to use ADRDSSU to backup a
You are misusing things here. SFTP does not equal FTPS.
SFTP is overlaid onshore which is using an encrypted interface itself. FTPS is
what the FTP server can support.
WinSCP can do both but not FTPS on port 22.
Lloyd
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On Wednesday, May 25, 2022, 11:20 AM,
The 037 code page square brackets are not ASCII compatible brackets. That is
part of the reason for 1047.
Regards.
Lloyd
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On Tuesday, February 8, 2022, 7:45 PM, David Crayford
wrote:
On 8/2/22 11:06 am, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> ...
>> The characters are
Did they ever hear of the original VM/360? According to what I understood from
people who worked at Lincoln Labs, that was exactly what it was supposed to do.
It was developed to train 360 CEs.
Regards.
Lloyd
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On Thursday, January 27, 2022, 12:13 PM, Pew,
I do this, but I allocate the pax file before trying to write it. I also
specify -x OS390 to be sure to get links and other attributes.
Lloyd
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On Monday, October 11, 2021, 4:00 PM, Paul Gilmartin
<000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
On
You are dealing with ASCII and EBCDIC. So you will not get the same answers
unless both use one or the other.
Lloyd
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On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 1:59 PM, Isabel
wrote:
Hello!!
We are still doing tests with our ICSF.
Our scenario:
We have the
The issue is probably EBCDIC vs ASCII for the pass-phrase.
Lloyd
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On Monday, April 19, 2021, 6:52 AM, Beesley, Paul wrote:
Hi
Does anyone use IBM Encryption Facility for OpenPGP (FMID HCF7740),
specifically to encrypt files on z/OS and decrypt them on
1 connection 4 addresses on 3274 according to the data sheet. So three LPARs
plus VTAM screen would be possible.
Lloyd
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On Friday, April 16, 2021, 7:53 PM, Tom Brennan
wrote:
Interesting! So now I'm wondering how consoles from 3 different LPARs
appeared
And nobody has mentioned that pax will write or read an MVS file so you are not
restricted to Open MVS for the intermediate files.
Regards.
Lloyd
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> On Oct 29, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Charles Mills wrote:
>
> *Size* (disk space) might be a constraint so compression is good.
>
z/VM and z/VSE allow 3215s as their consoles. z/OS does not. z/OS requires a
3270 full screen console.
Regards.
Lloyd
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Is localhost defined?
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> On Jun 8, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Sean Gleann wrote:
>
> Thanks for the hint about thoroughly checking output, Michael.
> I went back and studied all the saved outputs, hoping to find something
> that might be helpful.
> In the event, there were no
I do not know about VISAM, but 360 FFS used variable length QISAM and BISAM in
the late 60s and early 70s. The DOD used a lot of it. Been there and learned
assembler to support applications using it.
Lloyd
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> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Seymour J Metz wrote:
>
> There
Yes. Use XEDIT and CMSUPDTE. They work well, but are VM only,
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Lionel,
Many years ago
In addition to all of the other suggestions. Check which terminal type you are
emulating. Some of the emulators allow you to specify older terminal types
that do NOT have numerics. Also check what the terminal type is on screen 0 of
ISPF. Maybe you are defaulting to one of the 3277 types or
How much cross-platform C code do you do? With Metal C, it is possible to use
cross-platform code in z/OS environments that do not allow LE.
In my opinion Metal C is VERY useful.
Lloyd
From: Gord Tomlin gt.ibm.li...@actionsoftware.com
To:
You can call a Metal C program with just a simple stack.
If you want to use the library (like sprintf), you need to do the __cinit and
__cterm calls. There is a C structure file that you need to fill out to call
__cinit and I believe the only parameter is the address of that structure. I
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
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Subject: Checking Years( was - Re: Storage Obtain .)
Lloyd Fuller wrote:
Actually in some products quite a lot.
Some other applications like your example:
1. Astronomy: (Calculating position
Actually in some products quite a lot. A product that I worked on in the past
is used by several banks including people who regularly post here and on the VM
list. Many of those banks used the product for various things including escrow
accounts which are VERY long lived. In several cases
In addition to the possibility of decryption, there is the issue that you need
to get the disks from the array back into the same order they were in the
original array with the same type and level of the disk controller. This may
be less of a problem with mainframe disk arrays, but it can
Look at your DSName. It is not a valid MVS dataset name: too many characters
without a period.
Lloyd
From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: pax, ddnames and
Why do you need to use DD:... for pax? If you are going to use a REXX variable
in the DSN parameter, use the REXX variable in the pax command? The use of a
DSN in the pax command is documented and supported. I have not tried to use it
from REXX, but I have used it from the OMVS command line
The problem with using LE programs in exits is the environment in which the
exits run. Many run in cross-memory and/or SRB mode so SVCs are not allowed
and LE functions use SVCs instead of instructions in many cases (i.e., the date
and time routines).
Lloyd
Note that my COBOL sort days are long ago so what I am saying may no longer be
true. What used to happen with E35 is that SORT did NOT create the final
sortout file: the program was given the sorted records from the last merge
set. So you saved, at a minimum, that set of I/O. Each COBOL
That is part of why I use a separate shell script to do this. I parse the
parameters and pull the filename into a variable using sed options. Then I can
build a listing file name and specify it in the actual c89/xlc command.
For example, this builds a C listing filename:
sname3=`echo
Janet,
When I have some options that are not part of the normal, I specify a different
shell script for compiling (like xlc64.sh for example), and specify that as the
compiler in ./configure or make or whatever. Then that shell script calls
the compiler once it has set up things like I want.
And this product is called NOMAD from Select Business Solutions. It has only
been available since 1976 or thereabouts.
And you can even MIX hierarchical and RDBMS if you want.
Geez. Another wheel reinvented.
Lloyd
From: David Crayford
Actually in some circles ADA is the ONLY language. Talk to the embedded
systems people. Unless things have changed quite a bit in the past 6 years or
so, ADA is heavily used in airplanes, etc.
Lloyd
From: John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
To:
No. The crypto cards preceded the z machines. They were available as part of
the 9672s. There are several different ones with slightly different
capabilities. They are all on the I/O bus so they are slightly slower than the
CPACF hardware for the same operation, but they may be more secure
It depends upon the manufacturer of the paper. Most did not, but I saw a few
boxes that did.
Lloyd
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Subject: Greenbar
Settle a debate: did greenbar paper
Actually, US companies have also stolen software. I will not go into details,
but it has happened at a company that I worked for. One of their customers
stole the software for at least a couple of years until we changed how our
license key was generated.
Lloyd
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The problem is not the executable. The real 64-bit problem is in the
installer. The installer that is used with XMIT only installs to 32-bit based
Windows.
If someone updated the installer to a newer version, things would be fine.
So copying the XMIT directory works except you don't get
You have to look at where C was originally designed to run. It was designed
for
the DEC PDP8. Those were SMALL in resources machines. Later versions of C
were
built on the PDP11s, but Richie and crew started out on the PDP8. And, yes, C
was designed to be a middle-level language.
During
And then you have C / C++ that uses RC=1 as the good return code. Any other is
bad.
Lloyd
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On 5/8/2013 2:14 PM, Elardus
, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
Actually, Univac played with it back in the 1960s/1970s.
Any ternary logic or memory in the 1960's was probably implemented
with discrete transistors rather than with IC's.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
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Or just specify the GOFF (-mGOFF) option which forces OBJECT and is MUCH more
useful when combining things with C.
Lloyd
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Sent: Mon, May 6, 2013 7:13:13 AM
Subject: Re: as OpenMVS assembler always gives
Actually, Univac played with it back in the 1960s/1970s. I believe they were
working with someone from OSU. As far as I know, they never marketed a product
with it, but it was at least researched.
Lloyd
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From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net
To:
Yes, but not protected key.
Lloyd
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Sent: Sat, April 27, 2013 2:27:59 PM
Subject: Re: Crypto Facility performance.
Guys,
I have a question , can a vendor use crypto services on Z without the crypto
Scott,
The newer version of z/PDT support crypto cards. I am not sure which version
added it, but I know that the last two or three versions support them. They
have to be configured in the zPDT device map.
Lloyd
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To:
in general. My perception is that it leads to fewer
surprises, although I am also aware of the drawbacks.
Charles
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If he is careful, he can even compile C1 for normal C calls and compile it a
second time with Metal C for calling from Rexx. I agree with Charles, calling
from Rexx to Metal C is probably simpler than calling a standard C routine.
We have several routines that we compile both ways: for some
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
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If he is careful, he can even compile C1 for normal C calls and compile it a
second time
Charles,
Before you get to far, unless things have changed, Metal C does not handle C++.
C only. I have not looked specifically at z/OS 1.13, but I do know that in
1.12
and earlier, C only.
Lloyd
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From: Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org
To:
Charles,
Where was the routine compiled? Under which version of z/OS? If z/OS 1.12 or
newer, make sure that you check the updates to the compiler and the library.
They were significant.
Lloyd
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AM, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net said:
In fact many of the feature upgrades from H Assembler to HLASM came
from the SLAC mods descriptions as we wrote SHARE requirements for
those features.
In at least one case Greg's version was better than IBM's.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
And you could get the SLAC mods for H Assembler which made it MUCH more usable.
Thanks, Greg. :-)
In fact many of the feature upgrades from H Assembler to HLASM came from the
SLAC mods descriptions as we wrote SHARE requirements for those features.
Lloyd
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From:
This is also a great way to hide files from casual users: make the name
unprintable characters and they do not see the file.
Or make it read only on a writable disk: use lower case or unprintable
characters in the name. Without a program it is difficult to overwrite, read,
or delete the
As several other people have pointed out, the ADCD systems are mainly used by
software vendors, mostly for zPDT systems, but sometimes others. And many of
us
HAVE to support old software: we still have customers that have not migrated
for one reason or another.
I agree that ADCD as
At my previous job, when we had to retire the P390 systems, the IT
administrator
had some problems to work off. So he took the 3.5 inch drives home and used
his
splitting ax on them over a couple of week-ends. Cheap and therapeutic. He
brought one back in and they were very nicely
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Subject: Re: Usefullness (or not) of STOC/LOC instructions?
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On 29 November 2012 07:29, Lloyd Fuller leful...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
The latter can also run into issues in AMODE 64. The index register is always
32 bits, not 24, 31, or 64 depending upon AMODE. Waste the extra nano-second,
use
I live in a coastal town, but not near the water. Unfortunately most of the
cell towers that are near my home were also much nearer the water so even
backup
generators/battery backup did not help. I have been told that several of them
are not even standing anymore. With previous storms,
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Sent: Wed, September 5, 2012 5:17:37 PM
Subject: Re: zEC12, and previous generations, why? type question - GPU
computing.
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+...@patriot.net
There were two: the PC/370 and the AT/370. I am not sure that many PC/370s
got
distributed as they were real SLOW. My old company had both for awhile.
Lloyd
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Sent: Thu, September 6, 2012 8:54:25 AM
You can do at least part of this with 3270. The Nomad2 product does part of
it,
but it drives the 3270 itself basically using alternate screen stuff. Only one
piece of the screen is allowed to input and the rest can have scrolling data in
multiple pieces that are driven by the Nomad2
It used to (late 1980s and early 1990s. At some used book dealers you used to
find the cover-less books available. I do not know if it happens anymore.
Lloyd
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From: Ken Brick kbr...@netspace.net.au
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Sent: Mon, August 6, 2012 6:08:07 PM
Yes. I do not remember the name of the malware, but it redirected DNS to a
hijacked one. The US FBI set up a clone of the hijacked DNS server and have
been running it to take away the malware power for better than a year. The
reason for the Monday deadline is that is when the FBI is shutting
Consider the cost of a CEX operation as ((ICSF call CPU)+I/O) and the cost of
a
CPACF operation as ((ICSF call)+(some CPU cycles for the operation)). So the
difference is I/O vs. CPACF cycles. The I/O cost doesn't change (much) with
larger blocks; the CPACF cycles do.
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