Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-05-27 02:09, Mike Schwab pisze:

VSAM, IMS, DB2 all require their own backup program.  I would expect
IAM to have their own backup program too.

Not exactly.
DB2 use VSAM and you can use IDCAMS or ADRDSSU to backup/restore/move 
such datasets. However things are more complicated, because you want to 
perform backup without closing the database, DB2 needs all datasets to 
be in sync, etc.
However the same apply to VSAM applications - you cannot freely manage 
VSAM files when open by CICS, if you backup/restore one file, but not 
others your application may not like it.


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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread Rajesh Janakiraman
@Martin: I'm totally new about IAM, if you know anything about this
restoring process pls help me.
@All: I just know that they replaced some part of VSAM to IAM but now they
requested to restore this IAM dataset and i'm very new to IAM.
Kindly help me




On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:40 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote:

 W dniu 2014-05-27 02:09, Mike Schwab pisze:

  VSAM, IMS, DB2 all require their own backup program.  I would expect
 IAM to have their own backup program too.

 Not exactly.
 DB2 use VSAM and you can use IDCAMS or ADRDSSU to backup/restore/move such
 datasets. However things are more complicated, because you want to perform
 backup without closing the database, DB2 needs all datasets to be in sync,
 etc.
 However the same apply to VSAM applications - you cannot freely manage
 VSAM files when open by CICS, if you backup/restore one file, but not
 others your application may not like it.

 --
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 Lodz, Poland






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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread Martin Packer
So they replaced some VSAM data sets with IAM ones and now want to manage 
them. Talk to Innovation or read their manuals is the best advice.

By the way you might want to enquire why they replaced these VSAM data 
sets with IAM ones (probably expecting performance gains) so you can 
anticipate whether some more might get replaced.

Not knowing the IAM product particularly well, and being an employee of 
the maker of VSAM :-) , I have to assume Innovation have a method of 
managing these data sets.

Cheers, Martin

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@Martin: I'm totally new about IAM, if you know anything about this
restoring process pls help me.
@All: I just know that they replaced some part of VSAM to IAM but now they
requested to restore this IAM dataset and i'm very new to IAM.
Kindly help me




On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:40 PM, R.S. 
r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote:

 W dniu 2014-05-27 02:09, Mike Schwab pisze:

  VSAM, IMS, DB2 all require their own backup program.  I would expect
 IAM to have their own backup program too.

 Not exactly.
 DB2 use VSAM and you can use IDCAMS or ADRDSSU to backup/restore/move 
such
 datasets. However things are more complicated, because you want to 
perform
 backup without closing the database, DB2 needs all datasets to be in 
sync,
 etc.
 However the same apply to VSAM applications - you cannot freely manage
 VSAM files when open by CICS, if you backup/restore one file, but not
 others your application may not like it.

 --
 Radoslaw Skorupka
 Lodz, Poland






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 adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej
 przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, 
kopiowanie,
 rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie
 zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo,
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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread Rajesh Janakiraman
Thanks, Martin :)


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:

 So they replaced some VSAM data sets with IAM ones and now want to manage
 them. Talk to Innovation or read their manuals is the best advice.

 By the way you might want to enquire why they replaced these VSAM data
 sets with IAM ones (probably expecting performance gains) so you can
 anticipate whether some more might get replaced.

 Not knowing the IAM product particularly well, and being an employee of
 the maker of VSAM :-) , I have to assume Innovation have a method of
 managing these data sets.

 Cheers, Martin

 Martin Packer,
 zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
 Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

 +44-7802-245-584

 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

 Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
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 From:   Rajesh Janakiraman raj.janaki...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Date:   27/05/2014 10:29
 Subject:Re: Restoration of IAM datasets
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 @Martin: I'm totally new about IAM, if you know anything about this
 restoring process pls help me.
 @All: I just know that they replaced some part of VSAM to IAM but now they
 requested to restore this IAM dataset and i'm very new to IAM.
 Kindly help me




 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:40 PM, R.S.
 r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote:

  W dniu 2014-05-27 02:09, Mike Schwab pisze:
 
   VSAM, IMS, DB2 all require their own backup program.  I would expect
  IAM to have their own backup program too.
 
  Not exactly.
  DB2 use VSAM and you can use IDCAMS or ADRDSSU to backup/restore/move
 such
  datasets. However things are more complicated, because you want to
 perform
  backup without closing the database, DB2 needs all datasets to be in
 sync,
  etc.
  However the same apply to VSAM applications - you cannot freely manage
  VSAM files when open by CICS, if you backup/restore one file, but not
  others your application may not like it.
 
  --
  Radoslaw Skorupka
  Lodz, Poland
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku
  przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być
  jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie
 jesteś
  adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej
  przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie,
 kopiowanie,
  rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie
  zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo,
  prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale
  usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub
  zapisane na dysku.
 
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 is
  intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only
 be
  received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties.
 If
  you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee
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  przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na
 dzień
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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread Steve Dover
Rajesh,

After the restore, make sure the dataset-owner got set properly.  Ours shows an 
owner of $IAM.  If you do not put the owner in, it defaults to native VSAM and 
you cannot read the file.

Steve

On Mon, 26 May 2014 14:57:53 -0500, Rajesh Janakiraman 
raj.janaki...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Mates,

I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume dataset and 
we are taking logical backups.

In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to 
restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the 
file. It shows I/O error.

Mates,
Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special procedure is 
applicable.

Kindly do the needful for the same.



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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-27 Thread John Clifford
If any IAM dataset owners have FDR in their shop, It backs up and restores
IAM files perfectly as both products are from Innovation DP.

John C


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Steve Dover steve.do...@ccbcc.com wrote:

 Rajesh,

 After the restore, make sure the dataset-owner got set properly.  Ours
 shows an owner of $IAM.  If you do not put the owner in, it defaults to
 native VSAM and you cannot read the file.

 Steve

 On Mon, 26 May 2014 14:57:53 -0500, Rajesh Janakiraman 
 raj.janaki...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Mates,
 
 I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume
 dataset and we are taking logical backups.
 
 In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to
 restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the
 file. It shows I/O error.
 
 Mates,
 Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
 Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special
 procedure is applicable.
 
 Kindly do the needful for the same.
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Rajesh
 
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Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Rajesh Janakiraman
Dear Mates,

I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume dataset and 
we are taking logical backups.

In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to 
restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the 
file. It shows I/O error.

Mates,
Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special procedure is 
applicable.

Kindly do the needful for the same.



Thanks in advance,
Rajesh

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Martin Packer
Are they not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based 
reporting, but it's been a long time since I saw any.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

+44-7802-245-584

email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
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Dear Mates,

I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume dataset 
and we are taking logical backups.

In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to 
restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the 
file. It shows I/O error.

Mates,
Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special procedure 
is applicable.

Kindly do the needful for the same.



Thanks in advance,
Rajesh

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Rajesh Janakiraman
Hi Martin,

This dataset is Innovation Access Method (IAM) which is an product of
Innavation


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:

 Are they not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based
 reporting, but it's been a long time since I saw any.

 Cheers, Martin

 Martin Packer,
 zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
 Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

 +44-7802-245-584

 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

 Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
 Blog:
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker



 From:   Rajesh Janakiraman raj.janaki...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Date:   26/05/2014 20:58
 Subject:Restoration of IAM datasets
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu



 Dear Mates,

 I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume dataset
 and we are taking logical backups.

 In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to
 restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the
 file. It shows I/O error.

 Mates,
 Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
 Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special procedure
 is applicable.

 Kindly do the needful for the same.



 Thanks in advance,
 Rajesh

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Ed Finnell
Still miss Bruce Black. Anyway last time I tried, think you have to specify 
 same number of Vols
for Restore as were spanned on input. _support@fdrinnovation.com_ 
(mailto:supp...@fdrinnovation.com)  is usually  rapid response.
 
 
In a message dated 5/26/2014 3:05:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com writes:

Are they  not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based 
reporting,  but it's been a long time since I saw  any.


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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Martin Packer
Yes, I know what IAM is: A replacement for VSAM. But I believe it's built 
on BDAM and provides a VSAM API on top of that.

Cheers, Martin

Martin Packer,
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From:   Rajesh Janakiraman raj.janaki...@gmail.com
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Date:   26/05/2014 21:21
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Hi Martin,

This dataset is Innovation Access Method (IAM) which is an product of
Innavation


On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martin Packer 
martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:

 Are they not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based
 reporting, but it's been a long time since I saw any.

 Cheers, Martin

 Martin Packer,
 zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
 Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM

 +44-7802-245-584

 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com

 Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker
 Blog:
 https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/MartinPacker



 From:   Rajesh Janakiraman raj.janaki...@gmail.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 Date:   26/05/2014 20:58
 Subject:Restoration of IAM datasets
 Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu



 Dear Mates,

 I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume 
dataset
 and we are taking logical backups.

 In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to
 restore the file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open 
the
 file. It shows I/O error.

 Mates,
 Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
 Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special 
procedure
 is applicable.

 Kindly do the needful for the same.



 Thanks in advance,
 Rajesh

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
A few of questions.

1) Have you contacted the vendor for assistance?
2) Have you ever successfully restored from a logical backup an IAM Data Base?
3) Are there utilities in IAM that will help you with this issue?
4) Are you on a current release of IAM?

Have you tried pre-allocating the file and then restoring it with REPLACE 
option?

Lizette


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
 Behalf Of Rajesh Janakiraman
 Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 12:58 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Restoration of IAM datasets
 
 Dear Mates,
 
 I'm facing an issue in restoring IAM datasets, it is a multivolume dataset 
 and we are
 taking logical backups.
 
 In Dataset Report the datasets are shown as PS file, but when i tried to 
 restore the
 file using normal logical restoration, i am unable to open the file. It shows 
 I/O error.
 
 Mates,
 Please help me to know that is there any procedure to restore IAM file?
 Whether we need to restore it as VSAM restoration or any special procedure is
 applicable.
 
 Kindly do the needful for the same.
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Rajesh
 

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Jon Perryman
Martin is implying you should contact Innovation and ask them if logical 
backup/restore is appropriate for IAM. They developed their own access method. 
Depending upon their design, your backup / restore utility might have special 
requirements. Maybe it requires the same track size. Maybe it's unmoveable or 
must keep the same extent size. It really depends upon their design.

Jon Perryman



 On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:21 PM, Rajesh Janakiraman raj.janaki...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  Hi Martin,
 
 This dataset is Innovation Access Method (IAM) which is an product of
 Innavation
 
 
 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martin Packer 
 martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:
 
  Are they not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based
  reporting, but it's been a long time since I saw any.

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Re: Restoration of IAM datasets

2014-05-26 Thread Mike Schwab
VSAM, IMS, DB2 all require their own backup program.  I would expect
IAM to have their own backup program too.

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote:
 Martin is implying you should contact Innovation and ask them if logical 
 backup/restore is appropriate for IAM. They developed their own access 
 method. Depending upon their design, your backup / restore utility might have 
 special requirements. Maybe it requires the same track size. Maybe it's 
 unmoveable or must keep the same extent size. It really depends upon their 
 design.

 Jon Perryman



 On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:21 PM, Rajesh Janakiraman 
 raj.janaki...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Martin,

 This dataset is Innovation Access Method (IAM) which is an product of
 Innavation


 On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Martin Packer
 martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:

  Are they not BDAM? I think that's how they showed up in our SMF-based
  reporting, but it's been a long time since I saw any.

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