Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jul 12, 2017, at 5:33 AM, John Eells wrote: > > > And no, the graphic on p. 35 has nothing to do with robots. I just thought > it was a neat graphic that helped illustrate the modernization of a 25+ year > old installation process.\ I guess I have been watching STNG

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Charles Mills
sed Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES) Not sure what is being planned but is this an all or nothing proposal? Meaning you either have to use it for installation or the order doesn't get installed? I don't know if others here may agree with me, but I, and some others in my shop, wo

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Charles Mills
BMC was very, very much on-board from the get-go in the design of the installation process, so I would think that whatever internal knowledge BMC had of how to make a good install process got incorporated into the z/OSMF process. Charles Good point. Since the term 'ISV' has already been

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Carmen Vitullo
are suppose to perform. my 2 cents Carmen - Original Message - From: "Barbara Nitz" <nitz-...@gmx.net> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 6:50:07 AM Subject: Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES) >But

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Turner Cheryl L > Sent: 12 July, 2017 14:23 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and > SYSRE

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Turner Cheryl L
@listserv.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu Subject: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES) Peter Hunkeler wrote: > Topic change due? Possibly more opinions if people understand it is about > z/OSF now. >

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Barbara Nitz
>But is it a valid data point? We use z/OSMF only insofar as we are forced to >for IP configuration and upkeep. We did not use z/OSMF to install v2.2, and I >don't know whether we'll use it to install v2.3. There is talk of it, but it >seems to be largely motivated by the thought that we

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread John Eells
Art Gutowski wrote: At the last SHARE, the question was asked at the multivendor installation-related session about how many in the room were z/OSMF users. In the past, I've seen those raising a hand to be perhaps 25% of a similarly-sized crowd, but in March about 2/3 of those present raised

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread John Eells
Edward Gould wrote: Interesting but I am not convinced that this is any better than what is currently available. It also looks (to me) complicated and one person seems to have to be doing “it” from start to end, is that the case? Slide 35(?) are you trying to show a robot can do this but not

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-12 Thread Art Gutowski
On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 07:35:52 -0400, John Eells wrote: >Everyone: IBM is headed toward using z/OSMF Software Management as the >installer. Please go back to near the beginning of this thread with the >old topic name to catch up on the discussion thus far. > >More on the SHARE

z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On Behalf Of John Eells > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 4:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES > > Gibney, Dave wrote: > > z/OSMF assumes access to zIIP.

Re: z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-11 Thread Edward Gould
> On Jul 11, 2017, at 6:35 AM, John Eells wrote: > > Peter Hunkeler wrote: >> Topic change due? Possibly more opinions if people understand it is about >> z/OSF now. >> >> > > Peter, good idea. > > Everyone: IBM is headed toward using z/OSMF Software Management as the >

z/OSMF-Based Installation (WasL Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES)

2017-07-11 Thread John Eells
Peter Hunkeler wrote: Topic change due? Possibly more opinions if people understand it is about z/OSF now. Peter, good idea. Everyone: IBM is headed toward using z/OSMF Software Management as the installer. Please go back to near the beginning of this thread with the old topic name to

AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES

2017-07-11 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Topic change due? Possibly more opinions if people understand it is about z/OSF now. -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the

Re: AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES

2017-07-10 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2017-07-10 o 18:01, Peter Hunkeler pisze: I have lost track of this for a few years, but when I last knew, these things *were* supported in EAS: > - PDS and PDSE (including load modules and program objects) - Plain vanilla (nonextended format) sequential - BDAM But as you wrote, it

AW: Re: EAV volumes and SYSRES

2017-07-10 Thread Peter Hunkeler
> I have lost track of this for a few years, but when I last knew, these > things *were* supported in EAS: > > - PDS and PDSE (including load modules and program objects) > - Plain vanilla (nonextended format) sequential > - BDAM But as you wrote, it also depends on the software accessing the