Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-04 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Esmie, GDG defined as NOEMPTY will ROLL-OFF the older members as you create +1 GDG members. With the maximum number of members in a GDG set as 256, only the latest 256 memebrs are connected (ROLLIN) to the GDG BASE catalog entry. ALl others are cataloged by their explicit name, and

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-04 Thread Bruce Hewson
correction. On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 02:03:18 -0600, Bruce Hewson bruce_hew...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Esmie, GDG defined as NOSCRATCH will ROLL-OFF the older members as you create +1 GDG members. With the maximum number of members in a GDG set as 256, only the latest 256 memebrs are connected

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-02 Thread Robert S. Hansel (RSH)
- MAY 21-23 - Securing z/OS UNIX - WebEx - JUL 23-25 - -Original Message- Date:Thu, 31 Jan 2013 10:45:04 -0800 From:esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Good

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread David Devine
Hi, sorry to say it's still only mgmtclas and storclas that can be ams altered on a migrated dataset without forcing a recall. Hopefully you can recall them without filling up your sms pools! And because you have updated the catalog entry they will end up being physically migrated again even if

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Don Williams
: Friday, February 01, 2013 12:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Esmie: I think this was discussed a while ago (20+ years ago) at a GUIDE session. IBM insisted that there wasn't anyway as the ACS routines have

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread esmie moo
Thanks Steve for clearing this up. From: Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:35:09 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER From:  esmie moo esmie_...@yahoo.ca Date

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
esmie moo wrote: I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. So it looks like the recall has to be done in order to process those files. Do something like this, hopefully after hours: IKJEFT - Recall say 500 dsn in one SYSIN. Do your IDCAMS ALTER job with one SYSIN for all

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread esmie moo
OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER esmie moo wrote: I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. So it looks like the recall has to be done in order to process those files. Do something like this, hopefully after hours: IKJEFT - Recall say 500 dsn in one SYSIN. Do your

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread EXT-Schwarz, Barry
: esmie moo To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:45:04 PM Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. : /* //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Greg Shirey
That is an interesting question, and something that's been bugging me since the OP first posted. If you create a +1 SMS-managed GDG with DISP=(NEW,KEEP), the system will create a data set with the next G00V00 sequenced number. But if that data set is *not* rolled in before you create (+1)

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Hervey Martinez
in futility since the GDG base limit is 255. Regards, Hervey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Shirey Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 3:11 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Feb 1, 2013, at 2:28 PM, Hervey Martinez hervey.marti...@custserv.com wrote: Assuming that all these gdg files belong to the same gdg base; it's possible that the GDG base was defined with a noscratch; then, when a gdg is rolled off then the file would not get deleted just detached from

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-02-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 1, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, � I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated.� : � This thread moves me to a (possibly) naive philosophical question from a remote perspective. (I like to keep a safe distance from z/OS internals

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread willie bunter
DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Good Afternoon Gentle Readers,   I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated.  :   /*    //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS   //SYSPRINT  DD  SYSOUT

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread esmie moo
Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER   Good Afternoon Gentle Readers,   I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated.  :   /*    //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Steve Thompson
: Thursday, January 31, 2013 1:45:04 PM Subject: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Good Afternoon Gentle Readers, I am altering a large amount of gdg dsns which are migrated. : /* //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IDCAMS

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Ed Gould
question. Thank you for asking. From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:04:39 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Hi Esmie, Did you receive any replies? I

Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER

2013-01-31 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
someone can answer my question. Thank you for asking. From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:04:39 PM Subject: Re: BYPASSING RECALL OF MIGRATED DSNS WHILE ATTEMPTING ALTER Hi Esmie, Did you receive