Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread Parwez Hamid
Sorry about the typo - meant to say, there ISN'T a 'CBP' product. Regards Parwez Hamid​ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Parwez Hamid Sent: 09 November 2019 00:39 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread Parwez Hamid
behalf of Sebastian Welton Sent: 08 November 2019 21:23 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? This is actually documented in the SA4.1 documentation: OA55159 – Additional IBM z14 Exploitation Support (November 2018) OA55159 provides additional new function suppor

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread Sebastian Welton
** > New Hardware support. > >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On >Behalf Of R.S. >Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:16 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: Re:

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread Matthew Stitt
In late December, 2017 there was an announcement letter for Container Based Pricing. It involves a new billing strategy based on containers. Wonder if the processors are connected to this. https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca=an=897=ENUS217-519 Matthew On Fri, 8 Nov

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread R.S.
Fortunately online Help panels clearly describe the acronym meaning: "CBPs - Displays the active/unassigned container based processors installed on your system." So, it is CONTAINER BASED PROCESSOR. We know the name. Not the purpose of CBPs. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread Richards, Robert B.
No problem! :-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 12:25 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? Bob, You're right, I made mistake with your name

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-08 Thread R.S.
: Thursday, November 7, 2019 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? Richard, No, it was reponse to Mike's post. Mike provided link to Share presentation about MQ in sysplex. CBP is (was) one of the sysplex links. It was thick copper cable 10 meters long

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread Mark Zelden
More speculation... Capacity Boost Processor(s)? (z15) Maybe something planned that was eventually implemented with the use of zIIP or making sub capacity engines full capacity for System Recovery Boost? Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS ITIL v3

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
o:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? Richard, No, it was reponse to Mike's post. Mike provided link to Share presentation about MQ in sysplex. CBP is (was) one of the sys

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread R.S.
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? No, this is different CBP. In this case it is sysplex link, obsoleted for several CPC generations. It is typical, an acronym can have multiple meanings. (no, I don't want to re-start war about USS) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? No, this is different CBP. In this case it is sysplex link, obsoleted

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread R.S.
No, this is different CBP. In this case it is sysplex link, obsoleted for several CPC generations. It is typical, an acronym can have multiple meanings. (no, I don't want to re-start war about USS) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2019-11-05 o 21:43, Mike Schwab pisze: The only

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread Richards, Robert B.
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 8:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it? The speculation is entertaining. But you should not expect any information to be forthcoming. At this point it is my

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-07 Thread Peter Relson
The speculation is entertaining. But you should not expect any information to be forthcoming. At this point it is my understanding that there are no product deliverables for which "CBP" is relevant. Yes, you can see fields in control blocks with CBP in their name. And you might see "CBP"

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-06 Thread Attila Fogarasi
I suspect anyone who knows is under NDA and cannot post here :) I have noticed that WLM has a CBP field in various places, documented as Reserved. HMC has added extensive support to configure CBP processors in lpars, with much the same characteristics as CP. This is different from SSC which is

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-06 Thread Martin Packer
The only zCX specialty engine eligibility is for zIIP. Sent from my iPad > On 5 Nov 2019, at 15:08, Gord Tomlin wrote: > > On 2019-11-05 09:56, R.S. wrote: >>> I suspect CBP would be for running docker payloads ? >> Well, as I wrote, dockers (zCX) use zIIP. You are right the name is very >>

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread Mike Schwab
The only reference I could find was in https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=35=2ahUKEwj-w5G99tPlAhUEWqwKHWHNBfw4HhAWMAR6BAgBEAI=https%3A%2F%2Fshare.confex.com%2Fshare%2F118%2Fwebprogram%2FHandout%2FSession10691%2FIntroToSharedQueues.pdf=AOvVaw3QyWMZhBU9yTFG9-57yysI , where it is a 10 meter

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread Tony Harminc
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 09:12, R.S. wrote: > We know the following types/flavours of mainframe processors: regular > CP, zIIP, IFL, SAP, ICF, older zAAP ...and CBP > This CBP is visible on Support Element panels. Help says it is "CBPs - > Displays the active/unassigned container based processors

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread Gord Tomlin
On 2019-11-05 09:56, R.S. wrote: I suspect CBP would be for running docker payloads ? Well, as I wrote, dockers (zCX) use zIIP. You are right the name is very suggestive, but some presentations about docker on z/OS did not mention CBP. zCX requires: - Z14 GA2 - Hardware Feature Code 0104

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2019-11-05 o 15:34, Raphael Jacquot pisze: On 11/5/19 3:32 PM, R.S. wrote: Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here explanation of the three letter acronym. The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP,

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread Raphael Jacquot
On 11/5/19 3:32 PM, R.S. wrote: > Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here > explanation of the three letter acronym. > The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? > IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP, but I have no > explanation for CBP. That's

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread R.S.
Yes, it is Container Based Processor, however I knew it and wrote here explanation of the three letter acronym. The problem is what is the purpose of CBP? IMHO it's easy to explain what is zIIP, IFL, ICF or IFP, but I have no explanation for CBP. That's why I'm asking. ;-) Regards -- Radoslaw

Re: CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread Mark Jacobs
Container Based Processor (CBP) https://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1OA55159 Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted email. GPG Public Key - https://api.protonmail.ch/pks/lookup?op=get=markjac...@protonmail.com ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 5, 2019

CBPs (processors) - what is it?

2019-11-05 Thread R.S.
We know the following types/flavours of mainframe processors: regular CP, zIIP, IFL, SAP, ICF, older zAAP ...and CBP This CBP is visible on Support Element panels. Help says it is "CBPs - Displays the active/unassigned container based processors installed on your system." Container sounds like