Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-09-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
bject: (External):Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB W dniu 2016-09-02 o 00:25, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: > A snippet from my IGDSMSxx: > > PDSE_MONITOR(YES,120,30) /* RECOMMENDED BY LVL3 */ > PDSE_RESTARTABLE_AS(YES) /* AS OF Z/OS 1.6 */ > PDSE1_MONITOR(YES,12

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-09-01 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-09-02 o 00:25, Jesse 1 Robinson pisze: A snippet from my IGDSMSxx: PDSE_MONITOR(YES,120,30) /* RECOMMENDED BY LVL3 */ PDSE_RESTARTABLE_AS(YES) /* AS OF Z/OS 1.6 */ PDSE1_MONITOR(YES,120,30)/* RECOMMENDED BY LVL3 */ . I stand corrected. The statement

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-09-01 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
):Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB For record purposes: IGDSMSxx still does not allow comments, as far as I understand the documentation. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-09-01 Thread R.S.
For record purposes: IGDSMSxx still does not allow comments, as far as I understand the documentation. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Cheryl Watson
016 2:10 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB IMHO there should be a Health Check for whole parmlib, that means all members from Tuning Ref. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2016-08-24 o 15:11, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: Charles Mills wrote: Plus, are there not third-party PARMLIB syntax checkers which would have been broken by the change? There are some syntax checkers from IBM, but only for *certain* parmlib members: CEEPRMxx, LOADxx and GRSRNLXX checke

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 323-715-0595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 6:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subje

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Charles Mills wrote: >Plus, are there not third-party PARMLIB syntax checkers which would have been >broken by the change? There are some syntax checkers from IBM, but only for *certain* parmlib members: CEEPRMxx, LOADxx and GRSRNLXX checked by 'Parmlib Processing tool' and 'Symbolic Parmlib P

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Charles Mills
tedly falls way short of perfect. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Edward Gould Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Cheryl: > On Aug 23

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-24 Thread Peter Relson
>This was one of our big SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. >You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If >you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. I would not have said that the thrust was necessarily about "any...member". Support for many

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
Cheryl: > On Aug 23, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Cheryl Watson wrote: > > Hi Ed, > > Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think > of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction > of staff is hurting the mainframe, but the fact is that they

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Charles Mills
: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi Ed, Regarding "Letting IBM off with variations is nonsense.", I choose to think of it as being pragmatic. I can complain all day about how IBM's reduction of staff is hurting the mainframe, but the fact is that they are doing it despite anything I

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
> ========= > > I hope this help, > Cheryl > > Cheryl Watson > Watson & Walker, Inc. > www.watsonwalker.com > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > On B

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Edward Gould
RM00 don't allow any comments. > > RECOMMENDATION: Apply the PTF and start adding comments to these > long-neglected parmlib members. > = > > I hope this help, > Cheryl > > Cheryl Watson > Watson & Walker, Inc. &g

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread J R
Use the REXX approach. Start with a comment that signals that the new standard syntax is being used. /* CARDINAL SYNTAX */ Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 23, 2016, at 12:08, Mike Schwab wrote: > > But how would you switch over to the new syntax? > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Paul Gilma

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 8:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more productively spent in making the syntax uniform? Use Utilities commands as a model. Not according to IBM. It was this or nothing. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Pa

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/23/2016 11:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init & Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed in each member. Wouldn't that resource

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Mike Schwab
But how would you switch over to the new syntax? On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: >> >>It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init >>&

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 8/23/2016 7:01 AM, Tom Conley wrote: This was one of our big SHARE requirements and we worked hard at it. You should be able to put comments in any SYS1.PARMLIB member now. If you find a member that's not supported, please let us know. What he said! Also, if your company is a SHARE memb

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
595 Mobile 626-302-7535 Office robin...@sce.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: (External):Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi all, M

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 10:02:30 -0400, Cheryl Watson wrote: > >It's true that not all Parmlib members support the same format, but the Init >& Tuning Guide has been updated to show which type of comments are allowed >in each member. > Wouldn't that resource (and the customers') have been more product

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB THANK YOU - this is great information. -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe Systems Programmer Enterprise Infrastructure Support

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Cheryl Watson Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:13 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Hi all, Most of the problems have been in the older members, but i

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
ehalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:40 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Richards, Robert B. wrote: >This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did >not yield the results I was looking for. >Do a

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Cheryl Watson wrote: >I just LOVE this APAR! No comments... ;-) Sorry, Cheryl, but I really *love* your post. Please continue with your nice posts. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Cheryl Watson
r, Paul Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB I thought there was a push by IBM to allow comments in all members. I thought the last few members that could not have comments now allow comments. As an example I know the COMMNDx

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Tom Conley
On 8/23/2016 9:10 AM, Richards, Robert B. wrote: This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the results I was looking for. Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? z/OS' 2.1 and 2.2 installed. Bob This was one of our big SHAR

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
t 23, 2016 9:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB I am sure there was / is.. but apparently standards are inconsistent other than what is documented member by member. Rob Schramm On Tue, Aug 23, 2016, 9:43 AM Feller, Paul wrote: > I thought there was a p

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Rob Schramm
t; -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 08:26 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB > > This is because ther

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Feller, Paul
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: 23 August, 2016 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Sadly no -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Richards, Robert B. wrote: >This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did >not yield the results I was looking for. >Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? No. There is only one standard with this name: 'NO STANDARDS' ;-) IEASYSxx has th

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Vernooij, Kees (ITOPT1) - KLM
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) Sent: 23 August, 2016 15:13 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB Sadly no -- Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor) Mainframe

Re: Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
ainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Richards, Robert B. Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 8:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: [EXTERNAL] Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the r

Comments in SYS1.PARMLIB

2016-08-23 Thread Richards, Robert B.
This has probably been asked before, but a quick search of the archives did not yield the results I was looking for. Do all members of SYS1.PARMLIB now support /* */ commenting? z/OS' 2.1 and 2.2 installed. Bob -- For IBM-MA