Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 13 May 2015 22:51:41 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 05/12/2015 at 04:38 PM, John Eells said: That alternative seems as though it might be worth looking at. What about shipping software on USB data keys (thumb drive)? They're still more expensive than tape, but the cost keeps

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 555264c6.6000...@us.ibm.com, on 05/12/2015 at 04:38 PM, John Eells ee...@us.ibm.com said: That alternative seems as though it might be worth looking at. What about shipping software on USB data keys (thumb drive)? They're still more expensive than tape, but the cost keeps droping. --

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-15 Thread John McKown
On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin 000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2015 22:51:41 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: on 05/12/2015 at 04:38 PM, John Eells said: That alternative seems as though it might be worth looking at. What

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 15 May 2015 10:30:18 -0700, retired mainframer wrote: Didn't Sony get in enough trouble embedding automatically activated software on what was supposed to be data only media? The keywords are automatically and supposed. If the medium is clearly identified as a bootable OS and it

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-15 Thread retired mainframer
Didn't Sony get in enough trouble embedding automatically activated software on what was supposed to be data only media? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 11:56 PM To:

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-13 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 13 May 2015 08:39:09 -0400, Kurt Quackenbush wrote: I've also discovered that files present in the GIMZIP [package directory], but not mentioned in the GIMPAF.XML, are quietly ignored by RECEIVE. Um, yes, ignored, meaning such files won't get downloaded using RECEIVE FROMNETWORK or

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-13 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
I've also discovered that files present in the GIMZIP [package directory], but not mentioned in the GIMPAF.XML, are quietly ignored by RECEIVE. Um, yes, ignored, meaning such files won't get downloaded using RECEIVE FROMNETWORK or GIMGTPKG. Files defined in GIMPAF.XML that don't have a TYPE

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-13 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Thanks. May the SUBDIR operand contain a multi-level directory path? Yes. Might I put multiple payload files in multi-level directories in the .pax.Z? Pax might extract them, and SMP/E might be unaware. (Do I seem to be re-inventing the conventional UNIX tarball?) Yes, and yes. Kurt

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-12 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2015-05-12 14:45, Jerry Whitteridge wrote: One change I'd like to see would be the ability to receive all the doc into the SMPNTS, just like we do the software. There is way more storage there than on my laptop as well as faster connections to the net. How much is this covered by

Re: Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-12 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We pull all software (as far as possible) electronically - as one of the other posters mentioned it has Tax implications for us. We are now also all virtual tape, with no physical drives. One change I'd like to see would be the ability to receive all the doc into the SMPNTS, just like we do

Customized Offerings Driver and SA Utilities (was Re: z/OS Platform Software Products on ... Tape?)

2015-05-12 Thread John Eells
retired-mainfra...@q.com (retired mainframer) wrote: snip If we could go from DVD directly to SMPPTFIN and SMPHOLD, using DVDs would be more attractive. snip That alternative seems as though it might be worth looking at. Mounting cartridges to install a driver system with the stand-alone